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Topic started on 31-1-2006 @ 10:39 PM by decidedlyundecided
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hey here's a foto i took on new year's eve. I have a digital cam and i saw a bunch of orbs in the previous fotos, so i told my sister to concentrate
on drawing spirits to here and this is what she got. . .
 what do you think? did my sister "conjure" orbs? i thought this was just too good of a photo not to post. . .
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reply posted on 31-1-2006 @ 10:49 PM by Toadmund
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If It could be replicated again and then maybe again, dust specs can be gradually ruled out.
Would be an interesting experiment to try! With a camcorder it would be interesting to see how they form, or if they move.
Those do look different from typical dust orbs though.
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reply posted on 31-1-2006 @ 10:51 PM by decidedlyundecided
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if you want i can post the bunch of fotos i took before hand, which showed orbs sort of floating in and out (they seem to come in and out throught the
window you see in the background *covered by the green curtain*)
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reply posted on 31-1-2006 @ 10:57 PM by smallpeeps
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This is really interesting because recently I met a girl who goes to graveyards and who photographs "spirits". Seriously! She says they are
basically just like these things in your photo. They are smallish, semi-translucent glowing balls which float at a certain level. I have yet to
accompany her to the graveyard, but it's on my agenda. I know little to nothing about orbs or their prevalence.
The problem is, this type of photo is easily faked. I'm with Toadmund. Use a camcorder and see if they show up. If you need the video converted to
web-form, U2U me and I'll help you.
Good post though! I have been thinking about this a lot lately.
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reply posted on 31-1-2006 @ 11:15 PM by Toadmund
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Something I just noticed that a skeptic could rip you to shreds on.
Look where the orbs are, in the window, with dark curtains, it could be a car in the driveway across the street. Who or what is that guy looking
at?
One could say that.
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reply posted on 31-1-2006 @ 11:28 PM by decidedlyundecided
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i don't know when i'll be up there again, she lives about 4 hours away from me, but here are all of the fotos leading up to and one after the pic in
the original post
Lens flare?
one orb by the flowers
large cluster by the window
one questionable faint faint orb by curtain
talking about my father who has passed *orbs appear*
my sister being a wise guy
post from toadmund
Something I just noticed that a skeptic could rip you to shreds on.
Look where the orbs are, in the window, with dark curtains, it could be a car in the driveway across the street. Who or what is that guy looking
at?
One could say that.

nothing is getting thru those curtains, those are thermal backed curtains. My sister lives in the mountains so to reduce heating costs she got those
curtains that have about 1/8" of solid rubber on the back, do you know the one's i mean? and the guy in the back is my brother-in-law, he's all
freaked out by the orb talk and trying to do a little debunking of his own, to no avail!!
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reply posted on 1-2-2006 @ 10:40 PM by toraylin
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Personally I have encountered many orbs and ghosts of many different kinds entities and bad tempered humans.All of which could easily be fabricated
through many means.
I can make many fake pics and post them saying that they are real but i don't.Now I realize that many people do.But I don't really know why they
would.
Now as far as these pics are concerned i will first ask this.
decidedlyundecided is this a remote location,does anything weird happen there,are these the first appearances of this kind of phenomenon.
Also did you take the pictures because of the prescence of these things?
My guess is that you took the pics.Then noticed them.Assumiing that it is real.
AS far as orbs are concerned.There is much documentation of the behavior of such things.Many tales of the wisp of the woods,the voice of the temptress
and many other tales involve these little things.
Many consider them to either fairys of some sort of energy cloud.Many witches would use these wisps to draw travelers with beautiful voices and pretty
lights.Only to enslave them or whatever.
It is easy to see wisps in certain areas supposing to contain majical esscence or beings.
Just a little info from my studies I will tell more in time if need be.
Scarecrow
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reply posted on 1-2-2006 @ 11:28 PM by HS
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I realize in my other post that you wrote that the orbs were not in the same places each time you took a photo. But I have photos of almost identical
types of orbs that are caused by dryed water spots inside the camera. Some of them are the same distance from each other, some are not. I think the
difference is due to the angle the photo is taken and the light source. None of the orbs I saw were that translucent, they were more solid like the
shadow people. I couldn't see beyond the vision. Also they mostly moved and were about a foot across and cobalt blue. My friend Jewel Wind saw them
also. She though she could travel using them. My question is do you see these without the camera, any of you there?
It looks like the spirits are having fun blowing soap bubbles though
Honor Seed
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reply posted on 2-2-2006 @ 10:15 AM by decidedlyundecided
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Originally posted by toraylin
Personally I have encountered many orbs and ghosts of many different kinds entities and bad tempered humans.All of which could easily be fabricated
through many means.
I can make many fake pics and post them saying that they are real but i don't.Now I realize that many people do.But I don't really know why they
would.
Now as far as these pics are concerned i will first ask this.
decidedlyundecided is this a remote location,does anything weird happen there,are these the first appearances of this kind of phenomenon.
Also did you take the pictures because of the prescence of these things?
My guess is that you took the pics.Then noticed them.Assumiing that it is real.
AS far as orbs are concerned.There is much documentation of the behavior of such things.Many tales of the wisp of the woods,the voice of the temptress
and many other tales involve these little things.
Many consider them to either fairys of some sort of energy cloud.Many witches would use these wisps to draw travelers with beautiful voices and pretty
lights.Only to enslave them or whatever.
It is easy to see wisps in certain areas supposing to contain majical esscence or beings.
Just a little info from my studies I will tell more in time if need be.
Scarecrow 
First of all toraylin, I want to thank you for posting *I started to think this thread was dead, and I was a little disappointed*
Well a little history on the family first. My sister has always been “in tune” with the supernatural. Always having strange dreams, and having
spirits visiting her. She’s able to sense shifting energies and so forth. I too had the ability when I was younger, but my sister, being 15 years
older than me, had already moved out and wasn’t able to help nurture my gift. So I blocked off that part of me a long time ago out of fear.
In the years leading up to our father’s untimely death and since, her senses have gotten stronger and regularly has run-in’s with spirits and on
the rare occasion, something much darker. Mine are starting to pick up again, but really only when it comes to my father. He was in a coma for 3 and a
half weeks before dying. He would occasionally come out of it to try to communicate with us, but due to the respirator and his weakened state, he
couldn’t. He died on my 19th birthday, so that all lead to quite a bit of spiritual turbulence over the last few years. So he talks to me, on very
rare occasions when he really thinks I need his guidance. But I always feel his presence.
Anyway, on to lighter subjects. My sister lives in a new development in upstate New York. It’s pretty wild and undeveloped past her complex. We
haven’t had any real disturbances *a nice change from her other homes* until around October. Her 2 sons *my nephews* who also have a knack for
sensing and seeing things. Started saying they saw people in the house they didn’t know and it bothered them. *my sister is a stay at home mom, she
is always there when they are, so if there was a robber or something in the house she would know *My older nephew saying that there was someone
waiting for him when he got out of the shower one night, and then disappeared.
I generally take everything they say with a grain of salt because, they’re young, and there’s always a 50/50 chance they’re making it up until
the weekend I stayed over in October.
It was about 11 pm, and we were all sitting on my sister’s sectional couch *the only seat in the house where we could fit me, my boyfriend, my
sister, her 2 boys, her husband, and his niece in one spot* in the living room. My sister, boyfriend and I, and my sister’s niece were all still
away watching TV. When all of a sudden we heard a huge thud come from the boys’ room on the second floor. My sister and I both instinctively just
looked up to see which of the boy’s were in his room, but they were both passed out on the couch. We just stared at each other for a few minutes and
then went upstairs to check if anything had fallen, but nothing.
That’s when we knew something was up. I bought myself a nice new Sony Cyber shot for my birthday *21 yay me* and I went up to my sister’s house
for New Year’s Eve. I took some photo’s to show off. And as I was snapping away, I noticed in the view finder that there were strange spots in the
pix. I then said to myself, “Hmmm, orbs or dust?” That’s when I told my sister, just for our own curiosity, to concentrate on spirits or
anything she might think would bring something strange into the photo, hence the 2 big dots over her head. I don’t want to chew your ears off so if
you would like to know anything feel free to ask. I’d personally like to get to the bottom of this. I have no problem doing a full investigation
when I’m not working *weekends and such*
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reply posted on 2-2-2006 @ 12:14 PM by toraylin
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Well congrats on the b-day.
As I am really trying to do much for the people who take the time to come on here,aswell as the wonderful amount of information that you gave I will
stick with you on this one.
I have things I must do right now but promise you i will be devoting your case some time this evening so expect some info and stuff later.
I am 24 and have had more than most would ever want of the dark side of things,so I have a good understanding of things(well i think so).
One question before I go.Is it just you and your sister as far as your fathers children go?
I need time to study all this,there is quite alot of variables when it comes to you and your sisters case.I am enjoying this much so.
Anyway all for now thank you for your posting this.
Scarecrow..
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reply posted on 2-2-2006 @ 12:27 PM by decidedlyundecided
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Originally posted by toraylin
One question before I go.Is it just you and your sister as far as your fathers children go?

funny you should mention that. My sister and i are biological sisters, 15 years apart *boy was i unplanned*. We loved our father, but my mother on the
other hand. . . had a habit of reminding us how promiscuous and unfaithful our father was soo. . . i don't know, no unknow siblings that i had heard
of, but you never know right?
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reply posted on 2-2-2006 @ 12:32 PM by llpoolej
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If you can reproduce them without using a flash(as your exif data shows) I would be more inclined to think something of it. Orbs are generally
reflected dust specs. I have a photo of my horse jumping and her whole head is an orb. NOT supernatural, it is dust.
This is an example of dust spots. Look all over this photo at the "orbs". I was using a diffuser on my flash, so they aren't bright.
Flash photography catches dust specs very well, especially on board flashes.
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reply posted on 2-2-2006 @ 12:38 PM by toraylin
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Ok that is interesting.I figured it was just the two of you.Were you and your sister close to your father,I mean was he close to you two.
Him dying on your nineteenth birthday is a biggy.I would like to ask.Is this what has kind of shocked your paranormal perception to get stronger in
the last few years?
If you at all do not feel comfortable about talking about these things just say so.Also I would like to say the more you delve into the understanding
of such things...The more they will happen to you.
Ok I will be off now I will post later.
Scarecrow
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reply posted on 2-2-2006 @ 12:40 PM by Umbrax
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I can make orbs too. I just took this photo in the last five minutes.
My Orb recreation attempt
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reply posted on 2-2-2006 @ 02:03 PM by decidedlyundecided
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well ever since my father has passed i've noticed more things, sudden pockets of thick perfume or cologne out of no where in my apartment, crazy
prickly cold feelings. Stuff like that. *since then i've let the dog sleep with me. sorta like a little denial security blanket. 'whats that noise?!
prolly the dog', hehe*
i'm not saying i've made a 180 when it comes to recovering what i had blocked off, but whatever it is, it's been more frequent since my father's
death.
And also, a funny not, well not funny, but, interesting. My grandfather, *my mother's father* died 2 months before my father did. it was kinda like
being bombarded. My grandfather's passing we knew was coming but my father was a complete surprise to say the least. he was 58. my grandfather's
passing really didn't effect me either way. Not to be mean, it really didn't bother me. My grandfather was constantly mean to me, beratted me
constantly, reallyreally bad stuff. I really didn't like him. So when he passed, ehh, it was just like, ehh ok.
toraylin, if you want more info on that whole thing, I'd rather you U2U me, don't feel like posting it and having all of ATS comment. but i'm
more than willing to discuss...
Ok that is interesting.I figured it was just the two of you.Were you and your sister close to your father,I mean was he close to you two.

My sister and i were incredibly close to my father. we had a wonderful relationship with him *despite his anger issues*. And his passing help and
didn't help us with our pain. When he died, we realized he was still "here" so we didn't have to face "the final curtain" with his spirit just
yet, and that was calming in a way.
But on the other hand, his spirit was so terribly distressed *my poor sister more than i * that we felt this weight on us for about a year after his
death. It was horrible knowing he had volumes to tell us, and even in the after life he still couldn't get his message across. ok, i think that about
does it for now. Unless someone else has a question or comment. . . .
*being sneaky and posting while my boss isn't looking over my shoulder, hehe*
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reply posted on 2-2-2006 @ 02:09 PM by llpoolej
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I think that it is very possible your father may be around you. I don't think the Orbs show that. I would be more inclined that the smell of cologne
ect; would be meaningful.
I honestly think orbs are nothing. Dust, bugs, ect;. Turn your flash off and see if there are any orbs. I bet there isn't.
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reply posted on 2-2-2006 @ 03:34 PM by papillonnoir
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Its not hard to do that with a camera, especially if you dont know what you're doing with one. I can do that to, just put the camera in th right
position, what with dust and water spots and such. and the one with the two dots right over your sister...that is fishy to me only because it could
be so easily photoshopped....its terribly convenient that they are orbs...the brushes on photoshop are circle shaped as well...just use it to lighten
and change the color a bit...they could also be caused by lighting problems or reflections from the flash
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reply posted on 2-2-2006 @ 03:52 PM by decidedlyundecided
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is there anyway i can prove i didn't photoshop it? oh well, i'm not all that into orbs anyway, they're really hard to prove and too easy to fake, i
know. I'm just using that photo as an illustration of the things that have been happening to me and my sister. . . . if i were on the other side of
this duscussion, i'd say the same thing. And it kinda sucks, because it's an amazing foto. But 95% of the people who will see it, won't think it's
real. So i say fair enough about the orbs. I don't expect anyone to believe it right off the bat, but after reading into what i have to say, perhaps,
a change of mind? i will continue to give you a full history off the things my sister and i have encountered. I just can't do it all in one or 2 days
*gotta work too on the rare occasion!* but yep. for now all i can give you is this, girl scouts honor, no photoshoping of the orbs. . . .
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reply posted on 2-2-2006 @ 07:03 PM by kungfubeats
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Completely baffles me why people look for supernatural explanations for a camera flash lighting up some dust particles!!
A photography expert at work once explained this to me when another co-worker brought some 'orb' photos in.
They are very easy to make, take a photo of any fabric chair, then whack it with your fist a few times then take another photo, ORB HEAVEN!!!!
Then take a photo with the flash off, NO orbs
Dust/water, nothing else.
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reply posted on 2-2-2006 @ 08:02 PM by Umbrax
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Originally posted by kungfubeats
They are very easy to make, take a photo of any fabric chair, then whack it with your fist a few times then take another photo, ORB HEAVEN!!!!

Exactly what I did above.
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