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The truth comes out about Katrina

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posted on Feb, 8 2006 @ 05:18 PM

Originally posted by Mr101Hazardous
You go say your sorry to all the bodies that they put in the ground that they could have saved just with sending in help the next day!! When it comes to helping save someones life You don't stand around going [Is it my job or can I do this without having a ton of paper work to do after

Just wait a minute. How does that saying go about "hindsight?" They were following protocol, the same protocol that's been used since... forever!!! The same protocol that has worked in the past. No one knew at the time the hurricane landed just how devastated things were down there. In fact they didn't know for about 3 days because there was no communication. You need to keep things in perspective...

posted on Feb, 8 2006 @ 10:45 PM
Sorry But I remember that it was on the news from the time it hit and from then on from the inside. O You don't have a TV wright?

Sorry I don't wish to
with You, just saying what I know.

posted on Feb, 8 2006 @ 11:02 PM

Originally posted by Mr101Hazardous
Sorry But I remember that it was on the news from the time it hit and from then on from the inside. O You don't have a TV wright?

Sorry I don't wish to
with You, just saying what I know.

Yeah.. from the moment the hurricane hit you knew it was going to be the biggest natural disaster in the history of the U.S. You knew the tried and tested protocols that worked in the past weren't going to be sufficient for this natural disaster. You knew something the entire rest of the country didn't know. You sir are a genius.

posted on Feb, 9 2006 @ 01:54 AM
They knew that the laves would not hole for a category 3 or bigger hurricane to hit. You are not seeing what I am saying here.
I see I am trying to show a blind person something that thinks he is deaf.

posted on Feb, 9 2006 @ 07:27 AM
Firstly, screw the troops. No offense to our men in uniform, but what those people needed was food and clean water. The whole world watched on multiple channels while thousands huddled onto roofs and stadiums and attics and Walmart in hopes of food and water. These things are #1 essential for survival. One can survive surrounded by #ty water and dead bodies, but you cannot survive without clean food and water.

Your protocol is flawed. This is my point. You are still trying to save face by blaming rules and protocol. The situation is done and over my friend. We messed up. Any argument otherwise is a waste of breath (or at least keyboarding effort).

IF protocol means "The Man" can sit in his office and watch people die because its not protocol for him to deal with it just yet...then your protocol is wrong, and cost us thousands of american lives.

Me thinks you fellas would be whistling a different tune if you or someone you cared about was in NO during this fiasco.

[edit on 9-2-2006 by DaFunk13]

posted on Feb, 11 2006 @ 09:28 AM
WASHINGTON (AP) - Former federal disaster chief Michael Brown, the face of the government's listless response to Hurricane Katrina, said Friday he told top Bush officials the day the storm howled ashore of massive flooding in New Orleans and warned "we were realizing our worst nightmare."

More defiant than defensive, Brown told senators he dealt directly with White House officials the day of the Aug. 29 storm, including chief of staff Andrew Card and deputy chief of staff Joe Hagin.

He also said the Homeland Security Department was among a half-dozen government agencies that received regular briefings that day from him and other officials by way of video conference calls. Administration officials have said they did not realize the severe damage Katrina had caused until after the storm had passed.

Under oath, Brown told the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee that he could not explain why his appeals failed to produce a faster response.

"I expected them to cut every piece of red tape, do everything they could ... that I didn't want to hear anybody say that we couldn't do everything they humanly could to respond to this," Brown said about a video conference with administration officials - in which President Bush briefly participated - the day before Katrina hit. "Because I knew in my gut this was the bad one."

In the end, the storm claimed more than 1,300 lives, uprooted hundreds of thousands more and caused tens of billions in damage. The devastation in New Orleans and other Gulf Coast communities left Americans with enduring images of their countrymen dying in flooded nursing homes and pleading for rescue from rooftops.

Brown, in his second Capitol Hill appearance since Katrina, told his side to the senators five months after he quit under fire as chief of the Federal Emergency Management Agency.

He agreed with some senators who characterized him as a scapegoat for government failures.

"I feel somewhat abandoned," said Brown,

Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff has said he did not know that New Orleans' levees were breached until Aug. 30. Bush at the time said, "I don't think anybody anticipated the breach of the levees."

At an occasionally contentious White House briefing Friday, Bush spokesman Scott McClellan said there were conflicting reports about the levees in the immediate aftermath of the storm.

"We knew of the flooding that was going on," McClellan said. "That's why our top priority was focused on saving lives. ... The cause of the flooding was secondary to that top priority and that's the way it should be."

After three hours of testimony, Brown was handed a subpoena ordering him to reappear in front of a House panel investigating the storm response. Brown is expected to be questioned by House investigators this weekend - days before the panel is expected to release its findings on the storm.

Recounting conference calls that described initial damage reports the day Katrina hit, Brown scoffed at claims that Homeland Security didn't know about the devastation's scope until the next day. He called those claims "just baloney."

Some senators suggested Brown look inward before pointing the finger elsewhere.

"You're not prepared to put a mirror in front of your face and recognize your own inadequacies," said Norm Coleman, R-Minn. "Perhaps you may get a more sympathetic hearing if you had a willingness to confess your own sins in this."

Brown responded: "That's very easy for you to say sitting behind that dais and not being there in the middle of that disaster watching that human suffering and watching those people dying and trying to deal with those structural dysfunctionalities, even within the federal government."

The disjointed federal response, Brown said, was in part the result of FEMA being swallowed in 2003 by the newly created Homeland Security Department, which he said was focused on fighting terrorism.

Natural disasters "had become the stepchild of the Department of Homeland Security," he said. Had there been a report that "a terrorist had blown up the 17th Street Canal levee, then everybody would have jumped all over that," he added.

Some senators attempted to trace the failures back to the White House.

"You quite appropriately and admirably wanted to get the word to the president as quickly as you could," said Joe Lieberman, D-Conn., asking about Brown's conversation with Hagin on the evening of Aug. 29. "Did you tell Mr. Hagin in that phone call that New Orleans was flooding?"

Brown answered: "I think I told him that we were realizing our worst nightmare, that everything we had planned about, worried about, that FEMA, frankly, had worried about for 10 years was coming true."

Sen. Robert Bennett, R-Utah, suggested Brown may have delayed the federal response by cutting Homeland Security out of the loop about the levee failures and going straight to the White House.

"I think I now understand why Secretary Chertoff says he didn't know," Bennett said. "The reason he didn't know is because you didn't think it important to tell him."
Brown said he communicated directly with the White House instead of Homeland Security because FEMA's parent agency "just bogged things down."

This just about says it all to me!

posted on Feb, 13 2006 @ 08:01 AM
Indeed quite sad. Its sad to hear our gov't get together in a room and bicker at each other about who screwed up. Its all a facade for the cameras. These people have no desire for justice after Katrina. Michael Brown, Chertoff, Nagin, Blanco...everyone should be fired.

I've said it a lot lately...


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