So...Jews DO control Hollywood and the media?!, page 3

Originally posted by zerotolerance

Originally posted by Seraphim_Serpente
"Jews" that supposedly run the World - are they preventing you from practicing whatever Religion you choose - or none at all (are they forcing you to Practice Judaism)?

No, but I find myself being exposed to more and more Jewishness on the tube nowadays then ever before. It doesn't interest me and the majority of viewers are not Jews, so why do the other 97% of this country have to be fed it?

Originally posted by Seraphim_Serpente
Are you being personally Discriminated against?

I have yet to apply at a job working for a Jew. I've dealt with 100's of them in business where I work.
But I never do freelance business with Jews on my own (I'm a graphic designer) too much trouble...I've lived and learned.
Ever get taken to the cleaners???????

Originally posted by Seraphim_Serpente
Do they not allow you to read certain books or express yourself?

You're not allowed to say anything negative about Jews or the ADL will be down your throat.
Ever see a rabbi made to look like an idiot on a TV show? NO, didn't think so. Ever see a priest or the Catholic Church made to look like idiots in the media........ya, all the time. Hmmmm, why's that?

Originally posted by Seraphim_Serpente
When you say "Jews" don't you really just mean "Business Men". Don't fall into the Racism trap - you are just Deluding yourself!

Okay maybe I wasn't clear....Jewish Businessmen!
Don't pull out the race card! This is free speech and this is how I feel and see things. If you cannot relate that's fine. We've both walked in different shoes. I'm tired of being the white man told to keep his trap shut.

Dude, I'm just an observer. I'm not saying they "run the world", just the media in the U.S.
Is this fair? I don't think it is. They work like a family when they get into power (it's called nepotism) and they hire mainly only "family". Go into any Jew run company and almost everyone working for them (or at least in a position of power) is a Jew. Why not any other race? Because personally I think the Jews are just as racist as everyone else, but they guard it with the whole notion of "Anti-Semitism". You can't say anything about them (literally) without being labeled Anti-Semite. I'm sure my posts are labeled Anti-Semitic by any Jew reading them, but I could care less, because it's time the "average, ordinary, white guy" stopped bowing down to all the other races and being a politically correct door mat to be walked on. If something bothers you about another race then let them know...this whole "tolerance" thing is BS! Tolerance today in this culture means putting up with crap you shouldn't have to deal with at all.

Hmmmmm, when people are faced with the ugly realities of their own people they lash back, refute and call racist. Sometimes the truth hurts, even though it's the truth. We all know stereotypes are bad to label, but we also all know stereotypes are very often true whether we like it or not. I'm sure other races have lots of mud to sling at the white man...and with good reason. Just look at George Bush. Biggest white a-hole around right now. He makes me embarrassed to be a "whitey-boy". But I live with it....

ah well.

I normally keep pretty quite on these forums. I'm pretty sure that none of you regocnize my username. Most of the time I just observe, rather then speak my mind because most of the time there are many people who share my opinion on things who can articulate it much better then I can. That being said, I havn't read all of the posts in this thread so if I'm repeating stuff that somebody else already said I'm sorry, but I can't help myself on this one.

my people run the media? Really? So what your saying is, that if I go out to L.A. after I finish college (I'm currently a freshmen) then all I have to put on my resume is that I'm a jew, and they'll hire me imediately because of some massive conspiriacy regardless of my qualifications? How was I unaware of this, did I not get some memo? Are you really serious?...There are a lot of us in the media because that's just the way history played out based on the oppertunities that we were presented with based on how our status in this country evolved. Not because of some big crazy Zionist Conspiracy.
And buddy....listen....when we call someone a goyim, we don't mean sub-human. Usually we use it to describe sterotypical white people. You really shouldn't take that much offense, because MOST of the time, none is meant.
And are we clannish? of course we are. Like you said, we only make up 3% of the population, it's kind of hard not to be.
And I agree that reverse racism is a really annoying double standard, and to descriminate a group of people based on a generalization is wrong, no matter what color your skin is, but maybe once "you white people" are enslaved for 400 years and maybe after six million of "your people" get wiped off the face of the earth; maybe then will you stop being told to keep your trap shut. "you white people" have been opening your traps, about other races for the entire history of this country. So stop pretending like "you've all" been so restrained for so long, because you havn't been.
I'm not saying you can't express your opinions, you just need to stop looking at yourself as such a victim. There are some jews out there who are very judgemental of non jews, and I hate that, so your right there; it does happen, but we aren't all like that. infact, most of us aren't.
If you've had bad experiences with Jews in the past who've treated you unfairly, then I'm sorry about that. it's a shame, really. But you can't judge every single jewish person as being horrible and evil just because of your bad experiences. It's just ignorant. That's why people get so pissed off at posts like yours, because you're being so narrow minded.
And all this stuff your saying about being exposed to jewishness on tv....now your'e just sounding stupid, you're not trying to be exposed to anything, the aim isn't to be 'force fed' jewish ideals. If you havn't noticed, there are a LOT of different minorities being put into the forefront of entertainment nowadays, and it's not to try and make other people think like "them" it's to make characters more interesting, and have more depth. It's to make programs more interesting by showing people things that they may not have seen before, and to make certain situations more realistic. Example: Most tv shows take place in Big Cities. In most big cities there are a lot of minorities. That's just how things are. TV shows are just portraying reality in the same way that Billy Wilder (a film director, who yes, was jewish) had only white people working at the main character's insurance company in his 1960 film "The Apartment". He wasn't trying to make some political message, it's just that in most white collar working enviornments back then, most if not all of the workers were white. He was portraying reality in the way that it was back then; and that's all that writers are doing now, there's nothing more to it then that. If you don't like it, then don't watch tv, it's not that big of a deal.
I know that you're just going to come back and pick apart my post peice by peice, and that's okay. You're going to turn my words around on me and make it seem like I'm "just another jew hiding behind anti-semitism". But I'm not going to call you an anti-semite, because I've been dealing with those people all my life. You're not an anti-semite, and you're not really even a rascist when it comes down to it. Youre just somebody whose pissed off at the world, and has happend to pick jews as your scapegoat. Some people pick aliens, some people pick Demons and the devil, some people pick the government. You picked jews. It's just a thing that people do when they have trouble dealing with reality.
Anyway, I've voiced my opinion.

IT IS NOT THE JEWS - IT IS THE ZIONISTS!

before you respond the below, PLEASE read the below

Firstly, let me say that I do NOT think "Jews" control the world. However, in regard to their small numbers in western civilisation, they do control a significant controversial percentage of media/government control in relation to their numbers.

Here I start a list. There is some really good information in the posts /forum/showpost.php?p=2544922&postcount=3]HERE, /forum/showpost.php?p=2545094&postcount=4]HERE, /forum/showthread.php?t=262231&highlight=MURDOCH]HERE, HERE, HERE and HERE.

In regard to this radical Zionist gentile Rudolf Murdoch states his case (amongest many others) that: www.nypost.com...

"It is very special," Murdoch said. "Our papers and television stations have always been great supporters of Israel and the Jewish cause."

BUT, you should read this:

Below is "Nicholas John Griffin, MA (Hons.), Cantab." on Jews (one of many statements he has made and are easily found and verified) but first I want to introduce you to a statement made by A.K. Chesterson in The New Unhappy Lords which is a MUST read:

"Whether or not One World is the secret final objective of Zionism, World Jewry is the most powerful single force on earth and it follows that all the major policies which have been ruthlessly pursued through the last several decades must have had the stamp of Jewish approval. Indeed, common sense applied to such facts as have come to light must lead to the conclusion that the policies, directed against the most cherished Gentile values, were incubated by adroit Jewish brains and fulfilled, or carried to the verge of fulfillment, by the dynamism of the Jewish spirit. At the same time, so many Gentiles are associated with the conspiracy, both directly and through the formation of fronts, there are so many Gentile agents and agencies, and so many Gentile governments which have acquiesced in the conspiracy by falling into line with policies inimical to their own national interests, that it would be ludicrous to offload upon Jewish shoulders responsibility for the destruction, or near destruction, of Christendom and the Western World. Nevertheless, it would be equally ludicrous to deny the Jewish part, especially where it is admitted… “Had we of the Gentile nations stood firm in defense of our own traditions and values, instead of cravenly capitulating, the Jews would have remained what they ought to be – a small sect living contentedly and at peace with their neighbors, exercising neither national nor international power and entertaining no inordinate ambitions. That, as I wrote at the outset, is how most of them actually do live. That a minority of them has been able to mount such a stupendous drive for world power is not their fault but ours alone, and it is we who must put things right – or perish. The way to put things right is not to engage in ‘hate campaigns’ (which in any event more often than not play into Jewish hands) but to make a determined stand for our own legitimate and distinctive interests."

And now"Nicholas John Griffin, MA (Hons.), Cantab." from "It's All A Zionist Scam."

3) "It's all a Zionist scam."

The disproportionate role of Jewish and non-Jewish Zionists among advisors and financiers to Bush and Blair, and in the mainstream media, is an oft-denied but simple fact. Therefore, goes this theory, anything Bush and Blair do is determined by conspiratorial Zionists, and anything the media tell us is a Zionist lie. Undoubtedly, sometimes, there is some truth in this, but also much folly. Those who automatically blame "the Jews" for everything are blinded by their knee-jerking to a multitude of other factors, not least the age-old facts that "power corrupts" and that the monopolising aggression and greed which are the flip side of the short-term efficiency of capitalism know no borders or ethnic distinctions.

Those who claim to believe that no Jew ever does anything wrong, or that to criticise any Jew or group of Jews is a mortal sin against a group singled out by God or Hitler for special treatment and in consequence entitled ever-after to carry a globally valid ‘Get Out of Jail Free’ card, are clearly in the grip either of PC self-censorship or the last misguided upholders of the late 19th century ‘Master Race’ fantasy.

But equally, those who believe that only Jews are capable of abusing great power for their selfish personal or group benefit are sadly lacking in any grasp of the realities of human nature. Give an elite - any elite - power, especially over decades or generations, and that elite will abuse that power, and scheme, cheat and kill to maintain and extend it.

Sometimes Gentile elites even find in individual Jews a useful cover for their own greed: In medieval Europe, and pre-revolutionary Russia for instance, assorted Kings and Princes and Nobles used Jews as money-lenders and tax-collectors, knowing that this would lead to popular anger against the exploitation which they sanctioned and grew fat upon would be deflected onto their Jewish functionaries.

This tendency to blame wicked shadowy groups of 'bad advisors' doesn't always require Jews - the same nonsense was spectacularly present in England at the time of the Peasants' Revolt - but it has always helped those 'on top' to stay there, and rendered the efforts of the 'common masses' (that's you and me, in case you still haven't realised) to secure justice and self-determination. Throughout history there have indeed been instances which have borne out Marx’s dictum that “anti-Semitism is the socialism of fools.”

Similarly, while a number of Jewish intellectuals and lobbyists – including the Frankfurt School and most of the leaders of the Civil Rights movement – have played a key role in providing the academic and ‘moral’ justification’ for the multi-racial assault on the survival of separate races and cultures, it is utterly wrong of anti-Semitic bigots to overlook the fact that the key practical motor for mass immigration is and always has been the greed of wealthy individuals, companies and corporations.

This was true in the days of Deep South slavery; when the British Empire carted indentured coolies all over the world; when the mill-owners of Lancashire and West Yorkshire placed adverts for workers in newspapers in Pakistan, and it is still true today in the food processing plants in small towns from mid-Wales and the Highlands of Scotland to the American mid-West.

It is perhaps no surprise that US-based ‘nationalists’, raised in a mental cocoon of free enterprise American Dream drivel are often unable to see that flaws in the very basis of their society are the root of the problem, but for nationalists in the European and radical British tradition to swallow the same pro-capitalist nonsense is frankly remarkable and shameful.

In modern times, the insistence of the naive and the bigoted that "the Jews" are to blame for everything that goes wrong in the world and their own lives allows those of us who do criticise genuine abuses of power and influence by some Jews (and, contrary to liberal mythology of the second half of the last century, they are not all blameless saints) to be painted by the media as crazy "anti-Semites".

The paranoid mentality that blamed "the Jews" for causing the Black Death by poisoning wells, and which now blames them for the soaring price of oil, only allows those who clipped coins or who promote the anti-white mind-rot of MTV to escape justified criticism by convincing ordinary people that those with genuine criticisms are as misguided as the paranoid cranks. If Professor Kevin MacDonald's writings are not evaluated sensibly and fairly, it is partly because his realm of study has been discredited by drivel about conspiracies by "Learned Elders" to use Underground tunnels to blow up our cities.

It is certainly true that most of the media went along with the absurd WMD justification for the invasion of Iraq. And it is equally true that assorted Zionists – particularly around President Bush - played a key role both in pushing for that invasion and in telling the lies that created a degree of public support for it. It seems that they thought that having the Yanks and Brits go in and obliterate Saddam was a good thing for Israel, and perhaps it was (though for "all-seeing masters of global manipulation" they seem to have got it spectacularly wrong; did it really benefit Israel to turn Iraq from a stable socialist tyranny basket case which used to give handouts to the families of a few Palestinian suicide bombers into a giant hands-on training centre for Islamic fanatics from all over the world?). But while this was clearly a key reason behind the decision of various Jewish media bosses to back the invasion, it does not automatically prove that it was the real, or the only, reason for it.

The strategic doctrine that the USA would use force to secure unrestricted access to oil supplies was first formulated by President Nixon, a man who, despite having some Jews - including Henry Kissinger -in his administration (hardly surprising, given their proven higher than average IQ) was also notorious for foul-mouthed anti-Semitic outbursts. In applying this doctrine, Bush and his people may well please various Zionists, but are also demonstrably operating in accordance with other agendas as well: The military-industrial complex; the fundamentalist ‘End Times’ Christians, and that of an American imperialism that was well-established and leading the Yanks to invade other countries long before the ancestors of Henry Kissinger and America’s Jewish media moguls were even allowed into the country.

And, of course, Bush is an oil man, and oil industry insiders, logically, should have a better grasp of the real situation than anybody else. But even if they accepted the Peak Oil thesis, the oil companies couldn’t possibly admit publicly that it is true, for their share value would collapse overnight. So Bush may well – rightly or wrongly – believe it. If he doesn’t believe in Peak Oil incidentally, it would be helpful if the sceptics would explain why he has recently announced huge programmes for the development of nuclear and alternative energy sources. These are going to be massively expensive and politically very costly, so why undertake them if Peak Oil is an unfounded fantasy designed merely to stampede the masses into backing a Zionist war?
Is it not more realistic to accept that, although America’s neo-cons have been driven by their ideology and ethno-centric obsession with the interests of Israel to push for the invasion of the Middle East, they only got their way because other sections of the US Establishment decided to go in so as to secure access to the oil that is the basis of the American way of life that Bush himself has described as ‘non-negotiable.

[edit on 5-3-2006 by AzurWhyte]

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