FORGET HALOGRAPHIC INTERDIMENSIONAL TRAVEL. Its a hallucination - smoke and mirrors turned int light and mirrors, Just a magic trick.

Interdimensional Travel:

Ingredients: Matter (Pi) and Anti-Matter (Phi).

First, take the atom (Matter) and break it down with Phi = nuclear

Second, take sound (Matter) and break it down with Phi = ultrasound
(like the humm of alien spacecraft powered with nuke)

Third and lastly, take gravity (good ole Mother Earth - Matter) and break it down with Phi = Antigravity (like alien spacecraft in our atmosphere)(once out of atmosphere it goes nuke, ultrasound, & antigravity simultaniously to rip a hole into the Phi dimension or I like to say hell.

Why Hell? Just look at its inhabitants. No smell, no ears, no testicles, no conscience, no pleasure senses like goosebumps.

By the way the grandfather of the soon to come device for this travel was patented in 2005 and the science (or cult) called it Nuclear Magnetic Resonance (Resonance, you mean like sound?)

There are your ingredients. Any skeptics? I am ready!

Fourth, there is

there is anti-gravity - like Alien Spacecraft

Fifth, anti-gravity is accomplished

Edit: All caps title.

[edit on 30-1-2006 by intrepid]

How can you break down sound with sound? And I really don't think sound is matter...

Why break down gravity? How does that work, in resonance with anti-gravity, in breaking dimensional borders? Especially since electromagnetics is what is considered to be the main power source for other-worldly craft...

Now, knowing that physical objects are mostly empty space being held by magnetic charges (protons, electrons, neutrons), I could see certian vibrations being created which enables something to pass through another object, but with what you are describing, well...

You aren't really describing anything. Break down matter with anti-matter, break down gravity with anti-gravity. Heck, you could use that same formula to say in order to break down Christ you need an anti-Christ. Or better yet, to break down a (political party of your choice) you need an anti (political party which was your choice).

And alien life forms have no sense of smell or heraing? No reproduction organs? No conscious? That one seems to be a bit off... I always thought that they were alive (but now I guess they have been anti-conscious all this time). And goosebumps give people pleasure?

Methinks you need to re-evaluate your subject matter. Or anti-matter.

AGH my BRAIN! nothing makes sense anymore!!!! What are you on about?

Ravenmock.. that made no sense. Could you please back up your claims with some scientific proofs? Some links or something please?

- Nazgarn

Wow, that made absolutely no sense
Quite possibly the most pointless rant I have ever read!

In a differant thread Ravenmock1 stated that God has opened up all knowledge and wisdom to him/her.

Thats kewl with me.

I just wish you'd clear up the matter's that have been swirling around the Serpo debate today.

Love and light,

Wupy

If God has "opened up" all knowledge to you, could you please ask him to clarify a bit? Thanks.

Ravenmock1's actual statement in the thread, "What is a satanist?" went like this:

By the way 7 is my favorite number. First of all I have only been on my quest for the answer to why I was suffering V2K and thought reading, and being illuminated by my Father Easter of 2005 and given Divine Understanding by the Father just four days ago, I came to understand all things. I have posted many of my understandings from God on the Mind Control Forum on the ezboard and at MCforums at Mind Discussions Forum. I have saved alot of the information I gleened from the net saved. You want to understand the true satanic meaning of 666 and the number of the beast being Phi, then go to the web site for neuophones, transducers and Flanagans neurophone. Notice the logo is a bisected hearing organism of the human body, turn it to the mirror and what do you have. . . . a 6, two ears 66, two ears and your mind, 666! That is the secret Mark of the Beast and the number of the Beast. I know what the abomination or Beast looks like too. You will never believe me. It would shock you sober if you knew AND it's human! I will answer any of your questions if you like? Cordially, Ravenmock1

if that helps to clarify the matter. I mean, hey, he only came to understand all things four days ago so it might take some time to be able to express them with clarity.

Wupy

uhmm...uhnmm..uhmm...
This is a good exemple of disinformation and what not to do...

I would still at the matter-antimatter stuff... at the CERN near geneva and
in other labs around the world they do matter-antimatter collisions every
day... i dont have notice of an entire lab and crew members lost or
trapped in others dimensions...

This thread is born dead...

To believe one to be informed by god is a sign... and not a good one at that. I personally do not believe in hell, or the devil, but should one exist I would be more worried about it giving away "enlightenment" for free. Enlightenment comes only from questioning oneself and the world around you, and deducing the answers yourself. God will not help you, for God wants you to help yourself.

In my belief structure, God is not omnipotent - for if he was, why would he create me to fail? No. God is not omnipotent. God is a part of each of us, and it watches us, hoping that we'll make the right decisions on our own.

As for pi and phi, and gravity and anti-gravity, let me tell you first that anti-gravity does not truely exist. The best that you can have is "gravity defying". Why is this? Because gravity is not a force, unlike what most people believe (ie, most people see it in a Newtonian sense). Gravity is, rather, an EFFECT - it's caused by the warpage of space time (General Relativity... which is anything but general...). This is why anti-gravity does not exist.

As for other dimensions, whether you mean different universes, or different spatial, physical dimensions - that's a whole 'nother ballpark that I could talk to you about.


And no, this isn't the MOST pointless thread I have read. Just 10min ago I read "They Can Read Our Minds!" by JayUU on the SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY forums . I thought these scientific forums were safe from rampant (stress rampant) conspiratism and illogical arguements like these.

Originally posted by GothicDj
Hi Yarium!

The first thing the i have learn in Physics is the fact that we have (until yet)
4 fondamental forces:
1)Gravity/Gravitation
2)Electromagnetic
3)Weak
4)Strong

That is what they teach in the begining.

You'll learn that all but gravity has been combined into one.

You have the Electro-nuclear force and Gravity. Electromagnetism was combine with the weak nuclear several decades ago, and the strong nuclear more recently. But to learn physics, it is best to work with 4 until you get to the upper undergrad level. Or even post-grad unless you study theory.

there is a theory that there are 4 universes.
- Our "positive" Universe (matter, anti-matter, black matter)
- The "negative" Universe (matter, anti-matter, black matter,
which are negative to our own.
- The "positive" virtual Universe
- The "negative" virtual Universe

I got this from a university physisist, if you
ask me questions about this stuff, I won't be able
to answer, well, unless I decide to visit the guy again...

Originally posted by Radekus
there is a theory that there are 4 universes.
- Our "positive" Universe (matter, anti-matter, black matter)
- The "negative" Universe (matter, anti-matter, black matter,
which are negative to our own.
- The "positive" virtual Universe
- The "negative" virtual Universe

This might be a take on M-theory. My math skills aren't high enough to draw from it, but I have heard similar things.

Sei Italiano? Sono Canadese-Italiano.

And that's about all the Italian I can remember at the moment.

You're wondering if I make a distinction between Gravity and Gravitation - and no, I do not.

Perhaps translation does not work well for the standard idea of "warpage of space-time", so let me give you an example.

You have a sheet of rubber. Draw a line down one side of the sheet. Now, imagine poking (or pushing) on the center of the sheet of rubber. What happens to the line? It bends. Not just 3-dimensionally (downwards), but also 2-dimensionally (to the center).

The rubber represents Space-Time. By warping the rubber 3-dimensionally, you produced a 2-dimensional change. When you warp Space-Time 4-dimensionally, you produce a 3-dimensional change. How do you warp the 4th dimension? Mass warps it. The more mass there is, the greater the warpage.

Also, since things don't "pre-exist" in a line, and since there is no "edge" to the universe (I can get more into that later, but it REQUIRES an understanding that the universe is 4-dimensional in nature, not 3-dimensional), something travelling along this warped space will, although 3-dimensionally be travelling forwards, will have its path changed by the change in the 4-th dimension.

What does this mean? This means that when you throw a baseball forward, it's not being "Pulled" downwards, but rather its still going straight - but straight-forward changes to become straight-down. It's direction is changed, not its energy.

So you can see now why gravity is really just an effect, and not a force. You also can see why greater masses have more gravity, and why things that go into orbit aren't really in "Zero-G" but are rather just set on a course that changes into a circle.

Hello Members:

Hey for a member that does not know what he is talking about, You all took him pretty seriously. Just look at all the posts.

I believe all I was trying to do was just initiate some thoughts from members exactly like the ones that posted.

Instead of finding me some links why it is impossible. They went on a personal attack and ranted on how dead this thread was. Wow, all those posts put together wasted more time collectivly that my single post. Now talk about who is smarter.

As to the Serpo question, there is a writer...hmmmmmmmmmmm who is writing for some big executive television studio and needs material. Well where is the best place to plagerize. Here, where all the young minds have ideas. That is who is proprogating the Serpo is going to end scenerio and who has the answer already. There is none! Smoke and mirrors.

Hey also I had not noticed that I was being watched util some others were bring posts in from other areas of this vast informational forum. Hmmmm?

Any comments, Cordially, Ravenmock1

*shakes head* Some people, it seems, never learn...

I was the first to reply to your idea, and broke it apart. The next three simply added "that makes no sense".

The forth and fifth may have been a personal reference, but it wasn't like a flame or anything.

The next threads were in reference to those comments (4th and 5th)... additional comments were the result of a different reply, one that was actually using proven scientific theory. The only links I saw on here were pretty much in reference to what you were going on about.

Being watched? You mean to tell me you actually believe that we shouldn't be reading other threads, and then finding common traits between someone's posting? Stay here for a few months... you'll learn.

And with that being said, you should probably read some other older posts or threads. If people start picking apart your ideas, then it is up to you to prove them wrong. It is up to you to give evidence or support. Don't whine about the replies and try to cover things up by making yourself look more important.

Other then that, welcome to ATS.

I'm with Soothsayer, Welcome to ATS. Just don't ask for a free ride. If you make a claim you WILL be asked to back it up with something, anything that might prove your point.

Other members WILL argue the points you make just to hash them out and come to an understanding.

OK, i'll let you in on some etiquette. If you say, "This is just my opinion" you will get a ride on it. Everyone has a right to their own opinion.

If you say something is true, I don't care how many secrets God has let you in on, you will be called on it. You will be asked to back it up.

Opinions are a free ride. Stating facts will get you called up onto the carpet. (Thats not a bad thing, as long as you can back up what your claiming)

Hope this helps my new friend.

Love and light,

Wupy

There is one very very very fundamental flaw in your theory Ravenmock1...
Sound isn't matter - sound is energy.

And thats just the fundamental problem.

Here are my other questions for you:

1. When you say

First, take the atom (Matter) and break it down with Phi = nuclear

What do you mean by break down exactly?


2. When you say

Take gravity (good ole Mother Earth - Matter) and break it down with Phi = Antigravity

Break down Earth??!?! Or gravity? Gravity is a force, saying you will break it down makes no sense.


And also...

By the way the grandfather of the soon to come device for this travel was patented in 2005

The patent you are talking about is for an anti-gravity vehicle, it has nothing to do with dimentional travel.

[edit on 2-2-2006 by Manincloak]