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reply posted on 1-2-2006 @ 05:12 PM by TheGoodDoctorFunk
There will be an alignment, yes.
And it has to do with astrology.

So, there is something called the ecliptic in our solar system. The ecliptic is the imaginary line on which all of the planets roatate around the sun. Now, as the Earth orbits around the sun, it appears that the sun "passes" in front of different constellations. Of course, it is just the persepctive of people on Earth as it rotates around the sun that defines which constellation, and therfore which astrological sign is active. The reason for this is that the sun doesn not move-rather, it moves very slowly in it's own orbit around the milk way. Walk around a lamp in the middle of the room, and you'll understand why it seems like the sun is "passing through" constellations as the lamp blocks your sight from certain objects.
But I digress, and yea, mightily.
The sun is on it's own orbit around the galaxy. And soon enough, actually, on December 21st, 2012, the sun will be making an alignment with the great rift of the Milky Way. If you are lucky enough to live in an area with little light pollution, go outside and look at the milky way for a little. Eventually you will see a dark patch running down the middle. This is the Great Rift, and is in reality a massive collection of cosmic dust that blocks our vision any further. Not so for the Mayans.

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For the Mayans, I am unsure of the exact legend and don't want to google at the moment, the great rift represents the birth canal, a doorway to the underworld. Soon enough, the winter sun will pass (approximately) directly through the middle of the Great Rift. In reality, there is a range of time that the sun will be within the great rift, which is 1980-2020. As you can see, the sun is in the rift but not yet covering it by it's one-half degree.

Anyway, that's the long story short. This great astronomical event (occurs every 26,000 years) must have been seen as the coming of something great for civilizations who had no conception of the galaxy, only a great tree that was filling the sky. Why the correlation among different civilizations? It will be visible from all spots on earth. Except for Belgium. Screw you Belgium.

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reply posted on 1-2-2006 @ 05:19 PM by Lucid Lunacy
Originally posted by jumpspace
Dec 21st 2012 probably has something to do with the planets.


Some of the Mayan calendars do have a correlation to celestial events. The one that ends on 2012 is the Long Count calendar and there is evidence to suggest it has a relationship to astronomical anomalies. In fact in 2012 the Winter Solstice Sun will be in the crossing point of the Galactic Equator (Equator of the Milky Way) and the Ecliptic. This is known as the Precession of The Equinoxes. It's not a wild stretch of the imagination to see this solar observations resemblance to the symbol of the Holy Cross or the Tree of Life (Sacred Tree in the Mayan mythos).

Now the question is; where will we be (ie Earth, the Sun etc etc) on Dec 21st 2012?


The Sun will be aligned with the black hole that is the center of the Milky Way via its equater.

The Mayan Long Count calendar is 1,872,000 days long. That is indeed a Great Cycle. This date happens to fall on a galactic alignment. Speculation to its significance is to be expected. The Long Count could just be a tracker for the astrological ages (i.e pisces to the aquarius age). Perhaps there is more significance, I don't know. The Galactic Center is a giant Black Hole afterall =). I personally feel the increase in sun activity of recent is a result of this emerging alignment. I believe increased sun activity could affect the earths magnetic field. I think that in turn could affect weather and volcanic activity.

What kind of facts were you looking for?

I suggest reading this thread by Alias Jones. If you're able to convert the astrology and mythology into something more rational to your modern mind (astronomy) then you will enjoy it I am sure:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

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reply posted on 19-8-2006 @ 01:24 PM by zorgon
Originally posted by triaton
I think this is the one that the mayans are referring to, we are heading straight to the sag galaxy which our milkyway ate billions of years ago. A place of debris smashed planets, stars etc. I'm new here I can't insert pictures, i don't know how anyway the pictures comes from university of virginia's university relations the last letter of the address is sgr.htm. Nice to be here in ats I've been reading the post here for about a year and a half and I felt that this is the place to talk things out when not occuppied.

if we're lucky enough not to hit a debris this time around



Silly Lemmings

Why is it no one ever takes a moment to look up the facts from an accredited source on astronomy? We have such wonderful resources like the Hubble and all...The web give you access to all sorts of great info sources, even live feed from the SOHO solar observatory a million miles from Earth

The solar system is NOT heading for "sag"...whatever that means...

The Sun is moving towards Lambda Herculis at 20 kilometers per second or 12 miles per second. Or in units "per hour": 72,000 kilometers per hour or 45,000 miles per hour. This speed is in a frame of rest if the other stars were all standing still.


That's in the constelation Hercules... btw

We crossed the plane of the galactic center 2 million years ago... are 50 light years out and going to 250 LY before we cycle back thru the center to go the other way 250 ly...

The three-dimensional picture of the Sun's movement through the Galaxy is a little more complicated.

The Sun is moving upwards, out of the plane of the Milky Way, at a speed of 7 kilometers per second. Currently the Sun lies 50 light-years above the mid-plane of the galaxy, and its motion is steadily carrying it further away.

But the gravitational pull of the stars in the Galactic (Milky Way) plane is slowing down the Sun's escape. The astronomer Frank Bash estimates that in 14 million years the sun will reach its maximum height above the Galactic disk. From that 250 light-year position, it will be pulled back towards the plane of the Galaxy. Passing through, it will travel to a point 250 light-years below the disk, then oscillate upwards again to reach its present position 66 million years from now. We crossed the plane 2 million years ago. We are currently in the thick of the galactic disk and our view of distant regions is largely blocked by dust but 10-20 million years from now, our motion will allow a full view of our starry galaxy.



This is from Stanford University


We did a page on speed of the earth taking into consideration all the motions, {though we left out the vector calculations} Here

Kinda need that info if you want to find your way home and know where your planet will be...

As to the calendar of the Mayans why does everyone say "it will end" and "cycle" in the same statement? Cycle means start over... not end like a wheel draw a chalk line... when it gets to the chalk it continues.... the next revolution... doesn't our calendar renew and continue every 12 months?


If you want to worry, worry about the return of the Anunnaki LOL Only the enlightened shall survive the revelation. The Tibetans even know this..{look it up its on many threads} Those that know will go thru the gate, those that don't shall cower under their bed and miss the boat

Tibetans say we will be saved by outside help

And BTW Aliens are "Critters"




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