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What's the big deal about hiding aliens?

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posted on Jan, 31 2006 @ 08:37 AM
If you honestly think Mankind would be any match for aliens that could travel between stars you have been brainwashed by hollywood.

LOL We cant even find a cure the common cold, You really think we could cure a advanced alien bio weapon that was killing us super fast?

They would have to be hundreds if not thousands of years ahead of our tech. Think how good a medival army would do against the modern US army. Thats only a few hunderd years of a tech advantage aliens could have a million year advantaged.

posted on Jan, 31 2006 @ 09:05 PM
Lets get rational and do some reality check here.

1. Unidentified flying objects are real and have been seen and documented by many credible witnesses.

2. Base on avaliable current data in this climate of transparency of opening up UFO files amongst nations, UFO are claimed to be of non-earth ownership or origins

3. UFO files had been coverup for a number of years, a conspiracy to keep such knowledge from citizens. This fact is evident with the recent opening up of files by some nations, admittance of govt's UFO knowledge and subsequent coverup.

4. UFOs are a threat.

5. UFOs are not a threat.

As with points 4 and 5, there is still no avaliable data on the anthropology, biology, history of the pilots of the craft to determine such points. Anyone else who claims otherwise is pure speculation and the realm of fiction. All we do know is that no witness had seen an UFO in a hostile act before, such as bombing cities.

posted on Jan, 31 2006 @ 11:04 PM
No hostile act? Tell that to all the cattle that have been Mutilated.
"Strange Harvest" by Linda M. Howe should be read by all serious
ufo/conspiracy buffs imo.

posted on Jan, 31 2006 @ 11:27 PM
How much do we know of the occupants of UFOs?

As much as there were no sightings of them mutilating livestock since the early 60s, researchers had a hard time explaining away the method used to cut open the animals. It was as if a hand held laser cutter was used as the wounds showed signs of heat application and instantaneous healing. And as we know, laser surgery was something that only commercialised in the late 70s and they were bulky items, even up to today, not something that you can portage over country roads! Thus it points to an advance technologically being or beings responsible for such mutilations.

However, to look at cattle mutilations as evidence of hostile acts, allow me to qoute a real example:-

An american redneck cattleman travels to india and camps there and one day, unable to find any other animal to hunt, comes across a white cow with no branding wandering in the jungles. He shoots it and had a bbq.

Unfortunately, a group of indians travelling thru the jungle sees the american cutting up the white cow and were pissed if not aghast. To the uninformed and most foriegners, the white cow is considered religiously sacred to the Indians/Hindus. Therefore is the american guilty of a hostile act?

My point is - are we knowledgeable enough on UFOs to determine that the occupants of UFOs understand our diverse way of life and the ignorance of it to conclude decisively that they are hostile?

[edit on 31-1-2006 by SeekerofTruth101]

posted on Jan, 31 2006 @ 11:42 PM
I would say that incidents like the 1970's Iranian F-4's vs UFO's and numerous "dogfights" between US and unidentified aircraft point towards the possibility that the occupants of the UFO's may not be entirely *friendly*

posted on Feb, 1 2006 @ 12:23 AM
maybe they just like to see what are response time is like .i mean they might get bored watching us after a while. i think that if they were to have harmed us they would have already done it. maybe they are waiting to see what we do with the little bit of technology(by their standards)that we have. seems we are just making germs to kill each other instead of getting together and killing germs.they dont want us out in their neighborhood what their big toys .we cant handle it.hopefully the aliens can get around government and get to the real people.

posted on Feb, 1 2006 @ 12:43 AM
1. War of the Worlds
A lot of people bring up the 1938 Orson Welles radio program as an example of mass hysteria. In actually truth, the program was a multi-level joke. I read about how people really didn't freak out; Welles made up news stories and gave them to the papers. The supposed riots made great copy, and no paper wanted to be left out. In actually truth, you cannot find ANY evidence that any person believed the story.

2. Keeping Secrets
Can the USA keep "real" secrets? Yes. During the 80's, the US had tapped a trans-oceanic cable that the Soviets believed was a closed and secure line. US picked up naval briefings and could hear background voices in the highest level govt. offices.

On the other hand, the History channel is making programs about it withint 15 years of it's use. So, US cannot keep secrets for long.

3. Collapse of Civilization
The example I prefer is the "Conquest of New Spain" by Diaz. He was present with Cortez & Co. when they toppled Montezuma and the whole of the Aztec Empire.

People still worshipped the old gods, only more so. They tried to interpret Cortez as Quetzacoatl, the bringer of peace, and the spanish cavalry as giant "god-dogs." But more importantly, Montezuma lost immediate control of his vaunted Jaguar Knights, who broke away from his reign. Each city decided to fend for itself and make a separate peace with the invaders. The problem was, when the invaders weren't present, the natives reverted to Aztec loyalties.

Within 50 years, 95% of the indigenous population was dead, due to diseases introduced by the "aliens." Most of the survivors were already interbreeding with their overlords, and accepting their culture, religion etc.

The invaders saw the indigenous ones as gorey violent savages who didn't deserve life or freedom. Luckily for the small invasion force, they died so quickly that most of the New World's resources were open for the invaders to exploit.

I think that is the likeliest scenario.


posted on Feb, 1 2006 @ 01:29 AM
I would like to offer another theory to this, we seem to have a pretty one sided view of this situation because well... we are the humans. What if the aliens have done similar studies as we did with disclosure, and what if THEY concluded that they cannot reveal themselves fully to the world but they can work with a select group of individuals to help us reach the point of safe disclosure. This would explain a lot actually.

posted on Feb, 1 2006 @ 01:34 AM

Certainly, if there were aliens that wanted to "come out," the government probably couldn't keep them hidden very well. Or at all.

posted on Feb, 1 2006 @ 06:45 AM
It's not all that relevant wether they like us or not (i probably wouldn't if i were an ET), the question is wether they are pursuing interests on this planet (which would mean conflict on the long run) and if that's the case, we'd better understand what these interests (improving leverage or even better, gain understanding of their intrinsic capabilites&vulnerbilites) are and most importantly, how many native collaborators we have to deal with and/or avoid to come in contact with, depending on circumstances.

There's a good chance we are actually talking about several competing civilisations here, there must be some kind of common denominator

posted on Feb, 1 2006 @ 02:21 PM

Originally posted by SpecAgentDW
I would say that incidents like the 1970's Iranian F-4's vs UFO's and numerous "dogfights" between US and unidentified aircraft point towards the possibility that the occupants of the UFO's may not be entirely *friendly*

Great example covered very well in the french Cometa report

There is loads of reports of UFO showing interest in Military bases. Some of the most famous Roswell was right next to the only nuclear bomber group in the World. Rendlesham forrest inncident was on a military base that stored nuclear weapons. There are so many others alot come out of Russia they werent as restrained as the US when dealing with UFOS. There is even some reports where UFO are seen at the exact same time and place that multiple nuclear missile silos go off line even though they are not connected.

UFOs invade soverign airspace probe military defense and bases. These can easily be seen as hostile actions from a human stand point.

posted on Feb, 1 2006 @ 02:47 PM
Maybe we aren't what you think we are (some bunch of stupid idiots that evolved out of some puddle of mud), aliens aren't what you think they are (some friendly bunch of guys that heard our radio waves and found us), and this conspiracy is something that's been in the works for thousands of years.

The greatest reason for not disclosing their existence is that they're not supposed to have had anything to do with us up to this point, and we might find out the contrary. We're also going to be experiencing a collapse in our climate, an economic ruinition, and the eventual downfall of our entire biosphere, all planned by them and carried out by men here on Earth, I'm sure. The less we know, the better.

posted on Feb, 1 2006 @ 06:50 PM
Have you ever wondered why suddenly at this time, some nations are 'disclosing' the aerial phenomena?

The reason is due to the overwelhmning reports of UFO witnessed by millions all over the world by credible people, from single events to fleets of UFOs in our skies that no one can longer easily debunk or explain away.

However, if you noticed, their 'comming clean' with UFO phenomena is only limited to sightings of the crafts. They had not open their files on the UFO occupants activities, for not many such witnesses are avaliable. So do not be misled that those nations are releasing 'full disclosure'!

By 'opening their files', itself is already very evident a conspiracy is in place to hide the truth from mankind. If not for the brave witnesses who took the stand under oath to inform us, even limited disclosure will not have taken place. The question does beg however, who gave the right to our democratic govt to conspire and hide the truth from mankind? Lets rationalize the issue:-

The military 'supposedly' view it as a threat because of their seemingly advance vehicles, thus from such evidence would lead to an advance race capable of more weaponery that Earth may not have defences against and thus determine the need to keep silence to ally the fears of mankind.

Are we living under martial law? Are the military our elected representatives?

No, civilians rule the military, for we have learnt thru history never to allow the military to rule, for powerful weapons built with taxpayer's fund are not toys for the hawks to play with at their whims and fancies. Power corrupts.

Are our civilian rulers our masters?

No, the govt are the people's servants. Though they may not take orders from an ordinary citizen, but COLLECTIVELY thru our votes and feedback, they are beholden to us. They are not allowed to act as they wish, for that would be dictatorship and democracy a sham. Any far reaching decisions they make must be made known, studied and agreed upon by a qourum, either parliament or senators/congress.

But with the UFO issue, had they seek our feedback? Had they discussed it with us or thru our municipal representatives before determining such THREATS? WHAT ELSE ARE OUR SERVANTS CONSPIRING AGAINST US - THE MASTERS - ON THE UFO ISSUE?????

Action required:- go as a group and request your elected representatives demand answers from the servants, for something illegal and against the interest of mankind is going on.

posted on Feb, 1 2006 @ 07:02 PM
Suppose ETs told The Powers That Be:

"We need you to cover up our activities, please. You've got a nice planet. It'd be a shame if anything happened to it."

What then?

Would you approve of a coverup? Suppose that's what all the Presidents found out was going on when they entered office? That things were not at all as they had imagined, the ETs imposed a "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy. In that case, public ignorance would seem to be preferable to whatever aliens might consider to be the "or else", like 10 million Klingon stormtroopers. Or a few dozen asteroids.

posted on Feb, 2 2006 @ 11:04 AM
Like I said, aliens aren't who you think they are, these secret societies aren't working on just being rich although their goals require it, this crappy depression and climate crisis are all being planned, our history is much different and covered up than we think it is.

posted on Feb, 3 2006 @ 12:20 AM
Okay... I know this a corny example but remember the show the X-files?
On that show there was the Syndicate, an Illuminatti like group who made decisions at the highest levels of world politics. They not only conspired to keep Alien existence from the public a secret but also their own plans from the Aliens a secret.
What if (BIG WHAT IF) our own governments were trying to keep as much as it secret in order to keep the aliens themselves off balance in order to try to defend ourselves in some way against whatever threat they may represent.
As has already been discussed by myself and ShadowXIX (Okay..mostly by Shadow) we know that the UFOP's and their occupants show interest in military bases, worldwide....doesn't that play into the field of they might not be so cute and cuddily benign after all?

posted on Feb, 3 2006 @ 04:37 AM
The reason they showed interest in our military bases is for one reason alone - humankind developed the means to produce weapons of mass destruction. The moment we began testing and detonating atomic weapons was when ET began to show concern. There's plenty of evidence to support how ET mysteriously neutralised testing facilities using electromagnetic technology. Consider the testimony of Captain Robert Salas 43 minutes into the Disclosure Project's 2001 NPCC film. On March 16, 1967, 10 nuclear-tipped missiles were rendered into an 'immobile unlaunchable condition'. There is supporting documentation available to back this up.

Furthermore, the famous Roswell incident, took place on the site of the Manhattan Project - at Los Alamos New Mexico - where the atomic bomb was initially developed.

In other words, they may be trying to protect themselves and protect ourselves. For reasons unknown to us. If ET are anything like us, there are good apples and bad apples.

[edit on 3-2-2006 by RiotComing]

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