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What's the big deal about hiding aliens?

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posted on Jan, 29 2006 @ 05:40 PM
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Honestly, I've heard a lot of talk about how the Gov't is hiding the truth behind the existance of ET's.

I need a little help here with this. Why would they hide the truth from everyone? Do they think everyone would totally flip out and mass pandemonium would begin? I just don't see the point in keeping the existance to themselves. (Technology, Plans, etc... I can understand being kept private though) Thanks for everyone who helps me figure this out in advanced.


[edit on 1/29/2006 by Its_True_I_Promise]




posted on Jan, 29 2006 @ 05:55 PM
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The Brookings Institution did a lengthy investigation of what would happen if there was disclosure. There findings were exactly what you surmised.
Pandemonium, hysteria and some religions would be shaken to their core.

Social order would break down because it would become obvious the powers that be couldn't protect the citizenry, and they lied about it just to keep their influence.

The economy would suffer because most people wouldn't go to work until all the facts were released about the "invasion."

I personally don't think the result of disclosure would be as drastic as the Brookings Inst. seems to think. But I sure would be glued to ATS, with MSNBC running in the background until I felt I had all the facts. Or at least as many facts as could or would be released.

I also would be very critical and cynical about the info released because; what a great opportunity to spread disinfo for selfish reasons by the govt.



posted on Jan, 29 2006 @ 06:00 PM
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Originally posted by whaaa
The Brookings Institution did a lengthy investigation of what would happen if there was disclosure. There findings were exactly what you surmised.
Pandemonium, hysteria and some religions would be shaken to their core.

Social order would break down because it would become obvious the powers that be couldn't protect the citizenry, and they lied about it just to keep their influence.


Interesting, thanks for sharing. I too would be on ATS and be watching TV for a long time.

I'm sure people would flip out a little bit, but the longer they wait the bigger the "pandemonium" would be, wouldn't you think?

mod edit: shortened quote

[edit on 1-2-2006 by sanctum]



posted on Jan, 29 2006 @ 06:10 PM
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@ Its_True_I_Promise

Dont you think if they can travel here from who knows how many ligths years away. They obveriously not using petrol, So then humans will want there SUV fitted with THERE technology ?. I cannot see Bush and his Oil maifa just throwing there strangle hold away. For real i could sit here all day with reasons why they WILL NEVER disclose the truth, well the American govenment anyway.Do you think Mexico's and Chile's govenmnets makes the kind of $$$$$$$ the US does by suppressing alien technology
. Thats why there more open on the subject they really have nothing to loose !!!!!



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posted on Jan, 29 2006 @ 06:35 PM
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Good point helium3!

Disclouser will probably come from some "rogue" nation like Sweden. They will parade their new found alien friend out for all to see and the US would do their damnedist to try and discredit them. When that didn't work the US would all of a sudden, bring out their alien, not to be out done by Sweden, and say "look aint he cute"

Hey Sweden, I just used you as an example. I know you're not a rogue nation!!!



posted on Jan, 29 2006 @ 06:39 PM
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Imagine all your beliefs, everything you have ever been told being proven a lie would you take it with a smile? Then you would have all us gloating all the time I know I would...a lot. People finding out their goverment was lieing to them denying existence when all along it was true. I don't think people would be happy with a group of people deciding whether or not they are "ready" to hear the truth then they would ask what else are they hiding from us? Also the "end of the world", "the return of Jesus Christ", "there bringing back Elvis" people would be out in force. Also the benefit to us would be we would get another whole load of conspiracys such as what are their real intentions?. So mayhem on the streets but more to talk about its kind of half and half.



posted on Jan, 29 2006 @ 07:03 PM
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Originally posted by Mikomi
Imagine all your beliefs, everything you have ever been told being proven a lie would you take it with a smile


I still think its about $$$$$$. After all people delt with finding out the would was round no biggie.


Originally posted by whaaa


Disclouser will probably come from some "rogue" nation like Sweden. They will parade their new found alien friend out for all to see


HAHAHAH, I can see people saying its micheal jackson new son.

[edit on 29-1-2006 by helium3]



posted on Jan, 29 2006 @ 08:02 PM
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Originally posted by helium3
HAHAHAH, I can see people saying its micheal jackson new son.
[edit on 29-1-2006 by helium3]


Michael Jackson's new son? HA, that made me laugh a lil.

Anyway, about the cash, i understand completely.....It is inevitable though about the truth coming out sometime...hopefully soon in my lifetime.

Thanks everyone for sharing your opinions and thoughts...I'm starting to see the whole picture about this


[edit on 1-2-2006 by sanctum]



posted on Jan, 30 2006 @ 03:13 AM
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Two words....

Religious Extremism.

Can you imagine what the extremists would say/do if USA came out saying that they had contact with Aliens?

It would be 911 x 1000.



posted on Jan, 30 2006 @ 03:29 AM
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For me it's a mix of money, religious extremism and control. If the goverment admitted there were aliens visiting us on a regular basis then some religions would go nuts, i am willing ot bet the stock market would go nuts due to everyone not going to work and also varies other problems. And i am willing to bet a ton of people who are not religous or mentally disturbed would just be freaked out anyway.

Personally i would just want to see how things went. Although i would make sure that everyone i ever knew who laughed at the UFO idea without even looking at the evidence admitted how stupid they were. I mean everyone likes to brag when they're right, right? Although it would mean i lost all my friends lol.

In the end it can't stay a secret forever. But unless something drastic happens like a ufo crashes next to a live news crew i don't think it will be revealed anytime soon. Give it 60 years and maybe they will think humans are ready. If you wonder why i say 60 years it's because i think technology by that time may have advanced enough to meet that level. If anyone has heard of heim theory you may know what i mean. Take a look at this article, almost sounds like the sort of thing that alien crafts use doesn't it? Now that heim is being taken more seriously it may provide something new and interesting, or maybe heim is wrong.

www.newscientist.com...



posted on Jan, 30 2006 @ 04:13 AM
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If you look at the time the goverment likely found out for sure about aliens 1947 around there with Roswell you can get a good understanding on why they would hide the truth. Less then a decade before 1938 the War of the Worlds broadcast. Even though they gave numerous warnings before hand that the program was not real millions of radio listeners thought it was real and alot went into a panic doing all types of crazy stuff.

How do you think the public would react at that time if there goverment told them aliens were indeed real and invading US airspace and oh by the way the goverment cant do a thing about it. Then would come all the public questions the goverment likely wouldnt have the answers too. What are these aliens? Why are they here? Where are they from? Could be a very good reason to hide it until the goverment found out more.

Flash forward decades later and perhaps the public is now capable of hearing such shocking information but know you have another problem you (the goverment) have hidden perhaps the most important discovery in human history from your own people for decades. What little trust people have left in the goverment could easily be shattered. If the goverment that "works for the people"
has hidden something this important what eles are they not telling us.


Then there is the other technology side of aliens for keeping it secret. The US failed in a short amount of time to hide the details of its most secret program the Atomic Bomb from Russia. Before long Russia had stolen very important Atomic secrets.

Alien technology would be infinitly more important then the Atomic bomb the first country to master advanced alien tech, would be able to control the skies with impunity and likely make weapons no earth goverment could hope to match.

If you told the world you had alien tech or information on it countries would be be demanding that info all the while sending every spy they could muster to steal that info. If you hoped to keep that tech for yourself you would have to develop a level of secrecy far beyond that of the Manhattan project.



posted on Jan, 30 2006 @ 05:19 AM
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If you want the most down-to-earth, comprehensive and easily-understandable answer to your question, go to www.disclosureproject.org and download some of the radio interviews with Dr Steven Greer. He makes it very clear.

Go to the 1hr-1hr 15min mark of this interview www.bloginservice.com... (42mb) and you will understand the full picture in no uncertain terms.

I also recommend this interview:
www.charlesgoyette.com... (16mb)
www.charlesgoyette.com... (3mb)

He is such an eloquent speaker on the subject, he will leave you under no illusion why the truth has been hidden for so long.

Hope that helps!


[edit on 30-1-2006 by RiotComing]



posted on Jan, 30 2006 @ 01:33 PM
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For all we know, the Aliens would be the senior partners in such a relationship, disclosure is not on their list, obviously, so, to be clearer

unless you have a planetary defense installation in your backyard.

i suggest you be more careful with your wishes, because they may come true, the tragic way. We know what we know, many things are quite obvious i personally couldn't care less if some official empty headed collaborator officially tells us that we've ben conned for 6 decades and that their new-found friends have the disruptors and orbital sensors ready to quelch any resistance in the bud. i mean reality isn't based on what bs some suit wearing know-it-all spews out at a press conference.


PS: i don't know how to escape from the current situation, but it's painfully obvious that some unorthodox means like code-breaking and nanites, which could destroy their stuff unnoticed, are the most promising way, k? did i list disclosure as a means of survival? no? guess why that is?!

final note: no, i don't believe that every single alien is hostile, but one fraction is more than enough. nanites, folks. our best bet.



posted on Jan, 30 2006 @ 09:38 PM
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ShadowXIX - Interesting post, I enjoyed reading that extremely, thanks for sharing.

RiotComing - Thank you for the Links, good info

All good points, especially the War of the Worlds broadcast. Makes good sense to me.



posted on Jan, 30 2006 @ 09:46 PM
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Imagine how evangelists would react. Strict Bible followers. What does the Bible say? It says God ONLY created man in his image. How would evangelists react? Probobly condemn the aliens as demons.

Hence why I hate religion. It closes people's minds.



posted on Jan, 30 2006 @ 09:49 PM
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Originally posted by Kacen
Imagine how evangelists would react. Strict Bible followers. What does the Bible say? It says God ONLY created man in his image. How would evangelists react? Probobly condemn the aliens as demons.

Hence why I hate religion. It closes people's minds.


Couldn't have stated that any better. I too, am not a fan of religion and IMO, I believe that the age of religion is rapidly falling to it's death.



posted on Jan, 30 2006 @ 10:56 PM
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I have to heartily disagree.
There are those of us who have faith, who also beleive that we are not Gods only creation.
Furthermore it never says in the Bible that God ONLY created man in his image.
To clear up a little, "in His image" merely means with the attributes of. We have the ability to think and reason and to understand logic and also to create, I think too many people take image too personally.



posted on Jan, 30 2006 @ 11:38 PM
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Very often, HG Wells' Mars Broadcast is used as an excuse to maintain the silence of UFOs. So often that everyone now believes this is what would happen should disclosure occur now.

Lets reflect rationally and seek out the facts. Just because the media reported a few phonecalls to broadcast stations, that would be termed as 'widespread panic?'

How many actually packed up and head for the hills?
How much was cities incapicitated?
How many priests tore their robes asunder and denouce religion?
How many factories shut down their production lines?
How many queue up to withdraw deposits from the banks?
How many actually panicked rather than complaining at being duped in the comfort of their potroasts meatpie dinners at home?

If the truth be knowned, i would suspect its not much and nothing more than a media played up storm on the 'widespread panic' to boost sales!

Should one requires facts on human pyschology when faced with an unknowned attacking face, all one needs is to turn the pages of history to determine the truth. We have our Pearl Harbour to fall back on. Did we run and cower in fear when little yellow men ( politically incorrect term today) raided and bombed Pearl Harbour?

Look at Russia. In the 40s, did the russians hide their tails between the legs and ran? Nothing of that sort happened. They bravely held out at cost against the hi-tech Germans, giving them as good as they received with their biplanes and out dated field pieces. Many died, but none allowed the technologically advanced germans to even set up an outpost peacefully on Russian soil. Some said the weather played a part, but the weather worked both ways for the penniless russian peasants too.

Should 'aliens' attack us, similarly we would give them a good accounting of ourselves. They may seem technologically advance, but as long as they are mortal, we have the means - atomics, biological, psychological, SDI to respond back. Some of us may die, no one lives forever anyway, but some will live either winning the war or at least obtain better terms of compromise.

Perhaps in 1947, we may not have the means to win, but today, the HG Wells theory is a lame excuse. Disclosure that the 'aliens' are hostile may even work in mankind's favour, for there would be more efforts in researching and developing weapons to counter them. Most scientists would abhor creating weapons which we will use against mankind, but should it be developed against 'aliens' who are out to destroy us, i am sure the volunteering list would be endless.

Therefore, it is all the more vital that disclousure be made immediately if the 'aliens' are hostile.

However, are the 'aliens' actually hostile? Have they bombed our cities? Have they declared war on us? Have they captured any prisoners of 'war'? Have they demanded us to live according to their rules as any conquering force would demand? After all..its been ages since the first UFO was sighted.


[edit on 31-1-2006 by SeekerofTruth101]



posted on Jan, 31 2006 @ 05:32 AM
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Originally posted by SeekerofTruth101
They may seem technologically advance, but as long as they are mortal, we have the means - atomics, biological, psychological, SDI to respond back. Some of us may die, no one lives forever anyway, but some will live either winning the war or at least obtain better terms of compromise.



That works great in the movies but it wouldn't happen in real life. Earth would not be saved by a microbe or a computer virus that just happens to work with a alien mothership computer.

If any hostile race could get all the way from another star to earth we would be no match. What did they say in the recent War of the Worlds remake? "This is not a War its a extermination" Most realistic part of the movie. They would have be masters of ways of travel and energy sources far beyond our abilitly.

Aliens could just stay out of the range of any of our weapons and bomb the crap out of earth with weapons that would likely make nuclear weapons look tame. If they were smart though and im amusing they would be they would probally forget the crude weapons we use and develop like nukes and create some super bio weapon that kills only humans. Infect a small amount of people then go park behind mars or something and wait for everyone to die.

I really doubt we would be anymore of a threat then cockroaches are too a modern human army. Though that wouldnt make for very interesting movies.



posted on Jan, 31 2006 @ 08:27 AM
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Deep Impact

This is no movie.

Never underestimate mankind's power to respond to threats.
Nukes - we have underground shelters. We have particle and direct beam capabilities.
Bioweapons - remember how we stopped bird flu? We have containment plans.
Psychological warfare - we have pyschics, or humans with ESP too. And we have spin masters on Earth who knows how to create spins to motivate mankind.
etc.

Dont allow Hollywood to corrupt your mind please.

We should never under-estimate the 'alien' threat nor over-estimate it. What is required is full disclosure to determine if whether indeed they are a threat or not. Diplomacy is often better than war.







 
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