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Originally posted by dgtempe
It seems to me i read that the explosives were placed in the buildings when they were built.
On the other hand, i dont know if all high rises have explosives put in to make implosions easier at a later date.
The cost of the explosives (which can be quite considerable) are usually hidden from developers as plumbing costs
Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
Few people realize, but every structure in America built after 1950, including apartment buildings, hospitals, schools and office buildings have high explosives built right into them to facilitate demolition years later, as dg surmises.
Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
Few people realize, but every structure in America built after 1950, including apartment buildings, hospitals, schools and office buildings have high explosives built right into them to facilitate demolition years later, as dg surmises. Of course, building contractors keep this information from building owners and tenants because it might very well make some people nervous. It's just a courtesy for the anxious among us, the way some hotels and such used to not have a 13th floor. The cost of the explosives (which can be quite considerable) is usually hidden from developers as plumbing costs, as most developers are clueless about plumbing and only care that waste is effectively eliminated from the premises, regardless of the costs.
[edit on 2006/1/28 by GradyPhilpott]
"On the weekend of 9/8,9/9 there was a 'power down' condition in WTC tower 2, the south tower. This power down condition meant there was no electrical supply for approx 36 hrs from floor 50 up. I am aware of this situation since I work in IT and had to work with many others that weekend to ensure that all systems were cleanly shutdown beforehand ... and then brought back up afterwards. The reason given by the WTC for the power down was that cabling in the tower was being upgraded ...
Forbes, who was hired by Fiduciary in 1999 and is now stationed at a U.K. branch office, was working on the weekend of September 8-9, 2001, and said that his company was given three weeks advance notice that New York’s Port Authority would take out power in the South Tower from the 48th floor up. The reason: the Port Authority was performing a cabling upgrade to increase the WTC’s computer bandwidth.
George W. Bush's brother, Marvin P. Bush's company Securacom provided electronic security for the World Trade Center. The company was backed by an investment firm, the Kuwait-American Corp., also linked for years to the Bush family and the Kuwaiti Ambassador's daughter that lied setting up the Incubator Babies Hoax to start the first Gulf War.
Disgraced Police Police Commissioner and adulterer Bernard Kerik, Giuliani's close ally, admitted they planned for building collapses and practiced them immediately before in 9/11 testimony. MSNBC Expose
Stratesec, a now-defunct company that had security contracts at the World Trade Center and Dulles International Airport, should be investigated, among others, because of the strange coincidence that President Bush’s brother, Marvin P. Bush, and his cousin, Wirt D. Walker III, were principals in the company, with Walker acting as CEO from 1999 until January 2002 and Marvin reportedly in New York on 9/11. At least one report claims that a "power down" condition prevailed on September 8–9 (pdf, p. 45) at WTC to complete a "cabling upgrade," presenting an opportunity to plant explosives with low risk of detection.
Firefighter Edward Cachia independently reported:
[We] thought there was like an internal detonation, explosives, because it went in succession, boom, boom, boom, boom, and then the tower came down…It actually gave at a lower floor, not the floor where the plane hit. (Dwyer, 2005; emphasis added.)
Originally posted by Valhall
Prove it.
911review.com...
After being posted on scores of websites for over a year, this story has failed to elicit any corroborating reports, even about the identity of 'Scott Forbes'. Aside from the fact that the sourcing of the story doesn't meet the most basic journalistic standards, its content is thoroughly implausible.
www.controlled-demolition.com...
In 24 days, CDI's 12 person loading crew placed 4,118 separate charges in 1,100 locations on 9 levels of the structure. Over 36,000 ft. of detonating cord and 4,512 non-electric delay devices were installed in CDI's implosion initiation system. As the implosion required the detonation of a total of 2,728 lb. of explosives, CDI implemented 36 “primary delays" and an additional 216 “micro-delays" in the implosion initiation sequence in an attempt to keep detonation overpressure to a minimum.
www.commondreams.org...
Marvin P. Bush, the president's youngest brother, was a director at Stratesec from 1993 to fiscal year 2000.
wikipedia: RDX
At room temperature, it is a very stable product. It burns rather than explodes and only detonates with a detonator, being unaffected even by small arms fire.
C-4 is widely renowned for being malleable. It can be molded into gaps in buildings and under bridges, or into any desired shape. C-4 is also well known for its durability and reliability. It will not explode even if shot, punched, cut, or thrown into a fire. The only method for detonation is a detonator or blasting cap.
Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
Well, of course, proof is hard to come by, but we can make certain inferences:
LeftBehind said:
So even if Forbes story is true, are we to believe that 50+ storys were prepared for demolition in 36 hours? I think that the evidence points to no.
GradyPhilpott said:
every structure in America built after 1950, including apartment buildings, hospitals, schools and office buildings have high explosives built right into them to facilitate demolition years later, as dg surmises.
Originally posted by LeftBehind
Marvin Bush stopped working at Stratesec in 2000.
www.commondreams.org...
Marvin P. Bush, the president's youngest brother, was a director at Stratesec from 1993 to fiscal year 2000.
Originally posted by derdy
regarding fiscal year 2000... i know some companies fiscal year end is in december and other in june/july.... isn't it possible that the end of fiscal 2000 for that company is in june/july 2001? I'm not sure if companies that operate like that are staggered ahead or behind, that's why i'm asking