future united states war with the u.n?

your thoughts guys? i've seen it mentioned as a possibility in science fiction.

i dont see it happening. if the un went to war with the us where would their funds come? we pratically are the un

Originally posted by RedDragon
i dont see it happening. if the un went to war with the us where would their funds come? we pratically are the un

Right. This might be true after the US pays all the arrears dues they owe. It may be headquarted in New York, but the rest of the world is paying the bills.

is this a prediction or prophecy ?

I wouldn't be the least bit upset if we demolished that building.

Even less upset if we did it with all the politicians inside.

Originally posted by Xerrog

I wouldn't be the least bit upset if we demolished that building.

Even less upset if we did it with all the politicians inside.

ROTFLMAO

Too bad it wouldn't include the real boneheads. Career diplomats do no a country run.

for instance if usa were to invade iran rather than just . if israel were to join for instance then we would have the whole middle easterupting.destroying it's nuclear capability,the coalition of the willing will be very thin indeed. i can't think of any country that would definitely be a member

[edit on 28-1-2006 by exsmokingman]

[edit on 28-1-2006 by exsmokingman]

Originally posted by Cynic

Right. This might be true after the US pays all the arrears dues they owe. It may be headquarted in New York, but the rest of the world is paying the bills.

"Ever since the U.N. was created in 1945, the United States has been its biggest contributor. The United States currently contributes 22 percent of the U.N.'s regular budget. In contrast, France contributes 6.4 percent, Britain 5.54 percent, China 1.53 percent, and Russia 1.2 percent. Three nations--the United States, Japan, and Germany--contribute a disproportionately large amount of money to the U.N. regular budget: 51.3 percent of the total.6

Moreover, despite its high level of funding for the U.N., the United States is underrepresented in terms of U.N. personnel. American citizens make up just 7.2 percent of the total.7

U.S. contributions to the U.N. system in 2001 totaled $3.5 billion, including $612 million in assessed contributions to the U.N. regular budget, $712 million toward U.N. peacekeeping, and $2.2 billion in voluntary contributions.8

In the past decade, the U.S. has spent substantial sums of money supporting United Nations peacekeeping operations worldwide. According to the U.S. General Accounting Office, the Department of State and Department of Defense gave the U.N. $3.45 billion in direct contributions to conduct peacekeeping operations between 1996 and 2001.9 This figure is dwarfed by the estimated $24.2 billion in indirect contributions10 made by the U.S. government to help support 33 U.N. peacekeeping operations in 28 countries during that five-year period."

6. Figures cited in Vita Bite, "UN System Funding: Congressional Issues," Congressional Research Service, September 10, 2003.

7. U.S. General Accounting Office, United Nations: Targeted Strategies Could Help Boost U.S. Representation, GAO-01-839, July 2001, p. 12.

8. Ibid. Voluntary contributions go toward specialist U.N. programs such as the United Nations Children's Fund (UNICEF) and the United Nations Development Program.

9. U.S. General Accounting Office, U.N. Peacekeeping: Estimated U.S. Contributions, Fiscal Years 1996-2001, GAO-02-294, February 2002.

10. The GAO defines indirect contributions as "U.S. programs and activities that (1) are located in the same area as an ongoing U.N. peacekeeping operation, (2) have objectives that help the peacekeeping operation achieve its mandated objectives, and (3) are not an official part of the UN operation." Ibid., p. 5.

www.heritage.org...

Cynic - this is a look at how much money the US is throwing down the drain at the U.N.

Edited to fix quote tags.

[edit on 19-4-2006 by mrwupy]

josh gator? usa puts the most money in? don't see how that is relevant to the topic.

You dont see how it is relevant?
You are saying that the U.S.A. could go to war with the U.N. and someone states how the U.S. is the largest contributor to the U.N. and its not relevant?
Why would the U.S. go to war with the U.N.?

Puhleazzzzzze Gator!

The US might be the largest "assessed" country. They are however, way past due on their bills.

Apparantly they are occupied elsewhere in the world doing good works for the UN? They just left their wallet in their other pants, right??

Cut me a break.



[edit on 29-1-2006 by Cynic]

Cynic,

If we are withholding dues then that is great. The sooner the UN's funds dry up the better. The organization is one of the largest failures of our time.

The sad thing is we really need an organization to provide food and aid to those who need it throughout the world. The UN is more interested in making deals with dictators and lining their pockets with the blood money.


Exsmokinggun,

The point is that war is not necessary to defeat the UN. Withdraw our funding and we have cut 22% of their budget. How effective would they be then?

elsewhere. money is largely an illusion. you sound supremely confident, you'll be in the front rank then i guess.

Originally posted by exsmokingman
elsewhere. money is largely an illusion. you sound supremely confident, you'll be in the front rank then i guess.

Where is elsewhere? The Tsunamia hit, who donates the most, who sends the most aid? The US not france, germany, romania, china or uganda. Money is a illusion? How so? Money is the most powerful tool man has created. does that make a hammer a part of my imagination?

Im with Josh, the sooner the UN ceases to exist the better off the world as a whole will be. However I really dont see that happening as this monster just continues to grow and gain more power as it grows, just an evil organization that needs to be stopped.