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Why The Hamas Victory Is Great News!

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posted on Jan, 29 2006 @ 08:55 AM
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Originally posted by elitegamer23
IRAQ DID NOT ATTACK US.so explain why we are at war with IRAQ.


This issue is being discussed here.

Freedom_for_sum




posted on Jan, 29 2006 @ 09:01 AM
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Originally posted by Lord Vilmur
It could be good because a formerly fringe group is now the ruling party and will have to accept responsibility for the votes they received.


Exactly correct! Under a true Democracy nobody is propped up. The Palestinians are going to have to perceive that Hamas is doing what they were put in power to do. The question I have is: What were they put in power to do? If they were put in power to improve the social infrastructure--I think they're likely to fail. If they were put in power to continue attacking Israelis with homicide bombers--then they are likely to succeed. That is; until Israel squashes them now that they are the official Palestinian government.



posted on Jan, 29 2006 @ 10:41 PM
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Originally posted by Submersible
The Japanese are not at peace with U.S.


All I can say is: PLEASE SUBSTANTIATE YOUR CLAIM!
.....And then; create a new thread!!!

[edit on 29-1-2006 by Freedom_for_sum]



posted on Jan, 29 2006 @ 10:57 PM
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freedom for all! Not some! You are blind, freedom_for_sum.

You really think Hamas poses a threat to Israels existence? You gotta be kidding. Did you hear the Hamas leader speak on CNN this morning? Do you not know that Palestine has no army? Did you know Israel has over 400 nuclear weapons in its arsenal? You really think Hamas poses a threat? You are blind man!

Israel can wipe Palestine off the map if they wanted...which it seems they do.

The conditions that created Israel were falsified anyways, so it comes as no surprise that muslims are against it.

We all know the ''jew'' Rothschild, with the approval of Churchill, actually funded and organized the Holocaust
in order to steal his brethren's wealth, and create an excuse to create a ''jewish homeland'' in Palestine, which he would be controlled by him, obviously.

www.davidicke.net...

Oh, you didnt know that? Oh, absolutly! That fact has been supressed.

That also explains why the Iranian president would say that the holocaust story was a myth.

Israel is more a to Hamas, then Hamas is to Israel. That is obvious.



posted on Jan, 30 2006 @ 05:01 AM
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David Icke is a liar and an antisemite.

Take what he says with a pinch of salt...

Israels nuclear force is of no value when dealing with the West Bank, because one bomb pretty much wipes out Israel as well.

And back on topic...

Hamas winning is a double edged sword, on the one hand the realities and trappings of power may bring some reality into their politics and pave the way for peace.

On the other Hamas could remain an extremist organisation, find itself cut off from the aid that Fatah recieved from the US and EU, watch what little economic activity there is in the Gaza strip and W. Bank crumble, leaving them with a horde of pissed of Palestinians with nothing better to do than take pot shots at Israel. Who then go ballistic, annexe more land, and the cycle continues...



posted on Jan, 30 2006 @ 09:31 AM
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Originally posted by LetKnowledgeDrop
freedom for all! Not some!


The word is SUM moron!! not "some". Clearly, you're too stupid to notice the play on words.

As for the rest of your post--The very first paragraph on Icke's website says it all:


Adolf Hitler was a frontman for the House of Rothschild.


Hitler was not a "front man" for anything. He was a dictator. And you, just like Icke, are attempting to revise history. WAKE UP FOOL!!!


[edit on 30-1-2006 by Freedom_for_sum]



posted on Jan, 30 2006 @ 09:45 AM
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Originally posted by Uncle Joe
Hamas winning is a double edged sword, on the one hand the realities and trappings of power may bring some reality into their politics and pave the way for peace.


The problem is that Hamas' charter includes the elimination of Israel. The fact that Palestinians voted in Hamas is indicative that this is their desire as well. I think peace over there is a "pipe dream."



posted on Jan, 30 2006 @ 12:50 PM
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While Hamas's charter calls for Israels annihilation, their manifesto contained no such rhetoric, and there are some rumblings of an acceptance of Israel in exchange for a return to the 1967 borders.

This is after less than a week of power.

Perhaps power will corrupt them enough for them to do the right thing!



posted on Jan, 30 2006 @ 04:54 PM
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I feel sorry for any peoples' or nations that go againsts the JEWS and Israel. History has shown their destruction and yet they still exist. Through God the nations that support Israel (the Jews) will be blessed and thoughs against them will be cursed. And of the supporting side who are doing the best? Its Biblically written and holds also for today.

Its spiritaul warfare out there and anyone who wants to wipe out the Jews (Hitler) is on the same fate as he is with the devil. Look at it from a Godly spiritual point of view you will see the smoke of evil that pollutes the earth.
Good luck Hamas I think they will dissolve from history.

Why can't the Egyptians let them in or the Iranians they have plenty of land. The reason is that the Arabs want it all after the Jews who made Israel from swamp lands that no one cared about into something prospered, the Muslims wanted it back. The land was paid for by the Jews also.



posted on Jan, 31 2006 @ 04:11 PM
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Um... what swamps were there in Israel?



posted on Feb, 1 2006 @ 03:37 PM
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Originally posted by The time lord
I feel sorry for any peoples' or nations that go againsts the JEWS and Israel. History has shown their destruction and yet they still exist. Through God the nations that support Israel (the Jews) will be blessed and thoughs against them will be cursed. And of the supporting side who are doing the best? Its Biblically written and holds also for today.

Its spiritaul warfare out there and anyone who wants to wipe out the Jews (Hitler) is on the same fate as he is with the devil. Look at it from a Godly spiritual point of view you will see the smoke of evil that pollutes the earth.
Good luck Hamas I think they will dissolve from history.

Why can't the Egyptians let them in or the Iranians they have plenty of land. The reason is that the Arabs want it all after the Jews who made Israel from swamp lands that no one cared about into something prospered, the Muslims wanted it back. The land was paid for by the Jews also.


the nation of israel is made from land taken by turkey after world war 1. under turkey palestine was actually doing pretty damn good.

the only reason israel is doing so damn well is because the jewish people settling it have plenty of money already, and they got all their land by kicking the palestinians out.

the jews never paid for the land, they committed acts of terrorism against the british until the british decided to give in (mostly because of the holocaust). they got the land for free, they got the nation for free, and they recieved an enourmous amount of help to found their nation. israel was allowed to discriminate and expel palestinians, while the world looked the other way.

bottom line, palestinians got a raw deal.



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