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Originally posted by DaftDebunk
Do you think it´s something genetic or maybe something in their culture or is it poverty, desperation and repression? Or maybe something else?
Originally posted by shots
Originally posted by DaftDebunk
Do you think it´s something genetic or maybe something in their culture or is it poverty, desperation and repression? Or maybe something else?
I would have to say the problem lies within their religion and their religous beliefs for the most part. That of course is just my humble opinion.
Originally posted by DaftDebunk
Are they not muslims all of them? Fatah & Hamas? Is it really in their religion?
To kill eachother? I thought I was just infedels, like me.
Originally posted by shots
Now just to make it clear I am talking about the fanatical ones not Muslims as a whole, and Palestine in general are one of the largest groups of fanatics there are since they have one objective and that is to annihilate all Jews while crushing the country of Israel. :shk:
Originally posted by Attero Auctorita
That line of thinking leads to the darkside, from which only evil can come.
Originally posted by LA_Maximus
Originally posted by Attero Auctorita
That line of thinking leads to the darkside, from which only evil can come.
Thank You Master Yoda for your wisdom, but here on Earth the Palestineans have made their goals crystal clear.....to Kill all Jews and drive them into the ocean.
Originally posted by Attero Auctorita
So you take the opposite view of mine, and believe that the reason they are "evil" and want to drive the Jewish peoples "into the ocean" is in their genes? They have a "terrorist", "radical fundamentalist muslim", or "fascist" gene?
Is it our responsibility as humans with good genes to cleanse the earth of their bad genes?
Originally posted by Attero Auctorita
How about replacing communists with "Soviets" instead of making such a grand generalization that communism is in the same league as Nazism?
but does every single one of them really want to kill the Jewish people (as you assert in your sweeping generalization)?
Originally posted by DaftDebunk
Do you think it´s something genetic
Originally posted by Nakash
Nygdan, I agree with most of what you just said, but I do disagree on one part. Un-islamic religions have been oppressed by Muslims for centuries:
Originally posted by BigTrain
Just think if the muslims put as much energy into a democracy and education and colleges and inventions as they do in hatred and killing, they might actually be as successful as the rest of the world. Pity
Train
Originally posted by Echtelion
And no Israel is NOT a Jewish homeland. It is an illegitimate Zionist STATE
The surrounding Arab states supported the Palestinian Arabs in rejecting both the Partition Plan and the establishment of Israel, and the armies of six Arab nations attacked the newly formed State of Israel. Over the next 15 months, Israelis captured and annexed an additional 26% of the Mandate territory west of the Jordan river. Most of the Arab population fled or were expelled during the war. (Estimates of the final refugee count range from 600,000 to 900,000 with the official United Nations' count at 726,000. According to official estimates at the time of the British Mandate, the total count of the non-Jewish population in 1945 was about 1,211,000, so there might be some inconsistency between the estimates.) The continuing conflict between Israel and the Arab world resulted in a lasting displacement that persists to this day.
Originally posted by Implosion
I think, If I was forced from my land and my home given up to a different people, it matters not who, then my anger would be passed down through my family, and one day, sooner or later, I would seek not only the return of myself and my people to the land that they have inhabited for centuries, but also retribution against those who stole it from me. I would not be out for them because of their religious beliefs, but for their actions against my own people.
In 1947, following increasing levels of violence by militant groups together with unsuccessful efforts to reconcile the Jewish and Arab populations, the British government decided to withdraw from the Palestine Mandate. The UN General Assembly approved the 1947 UN Partition Plan dividing the territory into two states, Jewish and Arab, giving about half the land area to each state. Jerusalem was planned to be an international region administered by the UN to avoid conflict over its status.
Immediately following the adoption of the Partition Plan by the UN General Assembly (on November 29, 1947), the Arab leadership rejected the plan and launched a guerrilla war that included attacks on Jewish civilians. The Irgun Tsvai Leumi retaliated with attacks on Arab civilians.
On May 14, 1948, before the expiry of the British Mandate of Palestine at midnight of May 15, 1948, the State of Israel was proclaimed.
Originally posted by Implosion
shots
Call me stupid by all means, but I think I've missed your point. I'm talking about the anger which stems from fresh wounds. Roman Empire? I don't think I understand the relevance. I am not talking about Biblical fairy stories, I am talking about the establishment of the modern state of Israel.
Originally posted by shots
Originally posted by Implosion
shots
Call me stupid by all means, but I think I've missed your point. I'm talking about the anger which stems from fresh wounds. Roman Empire? I don't think I understand the relevance. I am not talking about Biblical fairy stories, I am talking about the establishment of the modern state of Israel.
The point is the land that was taken from Palestine in 47 or 48 was the very same land that was taken from the Jewish circa 1000-800 bc.
Originally posted by shots
Originally posted by Implosion
shots
Call me stupid by all means, but I think I've missed your point. I'm talking about the anger which stems from fresh wounds. Roman Empire? I don't think I understand the relevance. I am not talking about Biblical fairy stories, I am talking about the establishment of the modern state of Israel.
The point is the land that was taken from Palestine in 47 or 48 was the very same land that was taken from the Jewish circa 1000-800 bc.
Originally posted by Implosion
What you have posted is totally and utterly irrelevant.