Originally posted by alphacenturi
Sardion, not sure why you always seem to take an issue with me, I am not your whippen girl.
I take issue with your politics not you personally so don't take anything I say as a personal affront as it's not meant in that way.
I have watched Harper's politcal career for the past few years and after reading his essays and various articles written by him and about him, I have
reached my own conclusions as to what makes the man tick.
Good for you, but as we all know what's written on paper doesn't always translate to the real world very well. I don't trust anyone from the
Refooooorm party of Canada period. If Stockwell day becomes our Foreign affairs minister well lets just say our international respect will dimish
When we talk about Fascism as I did in the other thread about the imaginary fixed elections I was simply referring to that fact the liberal party over
the years has leaned more to the state run kind of governement that is an aspect of fascism.
I was just poking fun at you thus the ---->
I was feeling cheeky that day so don't take it personally.
Instsitutionalized health-care, daycare, even a good chunk of our media is subsidized by the government.
Your point being? Would you rather have working class Canadians pushed into poverty simply for being sick? I could care less about daycare btw, but
Harpers proposels in that area leave alot to be desired. It should be up to the Provinces not the Feds IMO. My agenda is more power to Municipalities
which is why I voted NDP. The Conservatives are all about empowering the Provinces and the Libs are all about consolidating power under a central
structure. We need more decentralisation not reduced government. Make do with what we got but change it so we the major cities can govern ourselves as
we see fit which we have never been able to due until the "New Deal For Cities" came along which Layton brokered with the Liberals but is now facing
a crises with the Conservatives. I do NOT want to see another 2 decades of urban decay due to governmental neglect.
The liberals have always had this contemptuous attitude that they always know whats best.
BTW, I don't have any issues with the same sex marriage and I don't know anyone who voted conservative that did.
Move out west to Alberta for a bit, I'm sure you will meet your fair share should you do just that. Ontario conservatives are primarily of the fiscal
persuasion which is why I find it funny that they think Harper is the same, which he plainly said he isn't by his own admission. He also seems to
think the textbook definition of how a government should work has to be the way it should be, no compromises, no consensus just dictation from the top
down. I shudder at the prospect of him leading a Conservative Majority which you predicted but thankfully didn't happen.
I don't hold any religious views and am more atheist to agnostic.
Cool join the club
You see that is my main issue with the Right, they treat the Left like we're a bunch of spoiled brats and that is why they get the treatment they do
from me and others. I would leave well enough alone if they weren't so combative but that isn't the case(not saying you are, you seem relative
non-combatitive). If Harper didn't gag his people during the campaign we would be seeing yet another Liberal Minority and I have to give him props
for that cynical/opportunistic strategy.
As far as "so far so good" I just meant I was glad he called it with David Wilkins over the Arctic as this has been a thorn in Harper's side since
he was young.
We shall see what he does, one thing I've learned about politicians is that what they say and do are usually completely different things.
He was disillusioned with previous governments, liberal and conservative as this area has been left unprotected and neglected for so many years. I
was impressed he stood for his own convictions and commitment and not just to dispell the American fear factor.
Yeah. I watched an interview of him dated back in the early 90s where he pretty said he was disgusted by the amount of compromise and consensus
building that went on in parliment. He sounded like a mini-hitler to me when he said that, and before you say stop watching CBC it was on Global the
home of the conservative newscasters.
Also another note, I would respect your opinion more if you didn't dodge perfectly good points i've made like hiding his parties agenda through
banning his party members from talking to the press during the campaign, saying that the CBC is a liberal propoganda machine when clearly it isn't
and has never been. If anything they try their best to put the NDP in a positive light as much as Canwest puts the Conservatives in a positives light.
I never claim that the media is unbiased either yet you made allusions that I did.
So in conclusion it's not you or me. It's your politics that I disrespect so don't take it personally or think I'm using you to push my point
across. I argue with anyone who makes broad ill informed statements.
Hell did you know the other day I was actually accused of being an Ultraconservative for defending Harpers win?
Oh yeah please don't check out of this thread like you did in the others, I don't respect copouts either.
When I said what I said, it was an attempt to start a small debate/discussion and I was severly disappointed that you declined by not responding.
Another thing (sorry about that
) but your continual use of Conservative talking points is another point of contention. It signals a person who
really doesn't know much about politics. I could be wrong but I have not seen anything to the contrary as of yet. I form my opinions by talking to
people of different political persuasion and with my own two eyes not by watching CBC as you've alluded to in past threads.
[edit on 29-1-2006 by sardion2000]