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The queen and Freemasons

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posted on Jan, 26 2006 @ 07:12 PM

Originally posted by Roark
The only role the Queen has in Freemasonry is as the Head of State of Commonwealth nations. As Australian Freemasons, we toast her health, purely as a sign of respect to those who govern us.

Wooo, there's a conspiracy there. :shk:

As a person that is in the Commonwealth as well, this just makes sense.

Hopefully Charles doesn't succeed.

posted on Jan, 26 2006 @ 08:29 PM
I want to put this issue to bed once and for all. The Queen descends from the line of Christ and is part of the Davidic line. To Masons that understand the genealogical aspect this, she symbolizes the last bastion of true royal blood having decended from courageous Knight Templars and her sign of royal heralry typifies the Lion. The Lion symbolizes that Zionist greatness - The tribe of Judah.

This prophecy was given by Jacob when he called his sons together and
offered prophecies about the descendants of his twelve sons in "the
latter days" (see verse 1). Part of the prophecy about the tribe of
Judah in the latter days is found in Genesis 49:8-9. It states:
"Judah, you are he whom your brethren shall praise: thy hand shall be
in the neck of your enemies; your father's children shall bow down
before you. Judah is a lion's whelp: from the prey, my son, you are
gone up: he stooped down, he couched as a lion, as an old lion; who
shall rouse him up?"
Judah is prophesied to be "a lion's whelp" (or
lion cub) in the latter days. A "whelp" or "cub" is both a young and a
small lion. This indicates Judah should be both:
(A) a young nation and
(B) a small nation in the latter days. None of the prophecies in
Genesis 49 about the other tribes indicate they will be young or
recently-founded nations in the latter-days. This language is unique
to the tribe of Judah. This prophecy was fulfilled in 1948 when the
Israeli nation was formed as a Jewish State in the Mideast. The
founding of a new, Jewish state was a strong indication that "the
latter days" had arrived in 1948. The Jews had not had a nation of
their own in many centuries and millennia prior to 1948. They had been
scattered in a worldwide Diaspora. By keeping the Jews scattered with
no nation of their own, God was mindful of this very prophecy. In
order for prophecy to be fulfilled, Judah could not exist as a nation
in its own right until the latter days arrived when it would be born
and become a young nation (a "whelp").
Judah's symbol was historically the lion, and this imagery is found in Genesis 49:8-9. As it grows, a lion cub matures and becomes a strong predator. This prophecy's references to Judah's "prey" and Judah having his "hand in the neck of his enemies" indicates Judah, though a young nation, will be militarily successful in the latter days. This has come to pass in the series of wars won by the Israelis against the Arab nations since
1948. Consider the aptness of this prophecy's imagery to modern
realities. It predicts Judah will have "enemies" (plural!) which
indicates there will be a number of them. It also says Judah's "hand"
will be in the "neck" of these enemies. If two people are fighting and
one's hand is choking or pinning the neck of his opponent, it requires
them to be in very close proximity to each other. This prophecy's
imagery predicts Judah's enemies will be rather numerous and that they
will live in very close physical contact with the nation of Judah in
the latter days. This very accurately describes modern realities. The
Jewish state is surrounded by many hostile Arab/Islamic nations and
they physically border the Israeli nation. Many Arabs and Palestinians
live directly amongst the Israelis! The prophecy in Genesis 49 that
"your brethren" shall "praise" Judah can be taken two ways. Many in
the USA and other nations of the modern tribes of Israel have
literally "praised" Judah for its prowess in warfare and its daring
military actions. The Israeli rescue of Jewish hostages in Entebbe,
Uganda and the Israeli bombing of the Osirik nuclear plant in Iraq
elicited much admiration for Israeli daring and courage, and the
former event was made into a movie highly complimentary of the
Israelis. The other way it can be taken is based on the fact that
Judah's "brethren" in the latter-days are generally ignorant of their
own Israelite origins, but are nonetheless aware of Judah's Israelite

The old Lion has always symbolized Great Britain and the young Lion being Israel. Keep in mind that when the French and Brits defeated the Ottoman Empire in World War I, Lord Balfour designated the land called Palestine to be Israel a land set aside for ZIONISM. Coinsidence - No! Who are the greatest of armies - Israel and Great Britain, AND WHO IS THE MOTHER OF THIS YOUNG LION.....GREAT BRITAIN.

The sacred relics are also stored in Great Britain for when the time of Jesus Christ returns to the earth....the keeper of those sacred treasures (Knights Templar) shall bring them forth to celebrate in HIS KINGDOM and HIS everlasting Glory.

posted on Jan, 26 2006 @ 09:31 PM
Whilst I found that piece genuinely interesting, do you agree that it (and the Queen) has very little to do with Freemasonry?


posted on Jan, 26 2006 @ 10:38 PM

Originally posted by declair

Judah is prophesied to be "a lion's whelp" (or
lion cub) in the latter days. A "whelp" or "cub" is both a young and a
small lion. This indicates Judah should be both:

Just wondering, Did Steven Collins give you permission to use his words without attribution?

posted on Jan, 28 2006 @ 03:41 AM
Having studied the history of Freemasonry it would be hard for me to believe that a monarch of any country would affiliate themselves with an organization that clearly seeks to undermine it, the Queen doubly so as she is also the head of the Anglican Church in proxy.
I would seriously doubt that any of the top-tier British Royal Family would become Freemasons, people like The Duke of Kent are another matter of course.

There would be nothing that could be gained by them joining such an organization and they would place their country in great jeopardy by swearing an oath of silence and accepting servitude to an undisclosed agenda.

posted on Jan, 30 2006 @ 05:27 PM

Originally posted by MrNECROS
undisclosed agenda.

You mean Brotherly Love, Relief and Truth?

Truly insidious...


*wrings hands*

*unleashes flying monkeys*

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