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reply posted on 3-7-2006 @ 08:29 PM by dr_strangecraft

Originally posted by WyrdeOne
wupy
That's a prophecy that can't help but come true. It's like saying "The sun will rise tommorow", but in a spooky voice.

Precisely so. What Jesus actually said was

Matthew 24:6

And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

In other words, Take heart Wupy and Wyrdeone, Jesus says not to get freaked out just because things look a bit grim in the near term. . . .

Day by day, people.

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reply posted on 3-7-2006 @ 09:21 PM by maloy

It might not be Nagorno Karabakh, but war is bound to break out soon in Ex-Soviet Central Asia. I think that a war in Georgia is bound to happen sooner than another war in Azerbaijan.

reply posted on 6-8-2006 @ 12:29 AM by Hellmutt

You might be right about that Maloy. The situation is very tense in Georgia at the moment.

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It seems like Armenia has some problems with the internet connection. Cable failures...

Regnum: Armenia is cut off Internet again: cable breakages in Georgia become permanent

08/05/2006

According to the national ArmenTel Company information holding exclusive rights on maintaining international telecommunications in Armenia, the current situation is caused by cable failure in the Kutaisi region, which resulted in the absence of internet connection in Armenia for 6 hours. Today, on August 5, cable was also broken on the Black Sea seabed. No information on when the damage would be fixed is available so far.

The current internet connection breakdown is the third large-scale cable failure that happened lately in Georgia.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.

reply posted on 11-12-2006 @ 04:57 AM by Hellmutt

Nagorno-Karabakh's First Constitution?

Nagorno-Karabakh has voted for its first constitution. They say "December 10 can be regarded as Nagorno-Karabakh Constitution Day". 98.58% of the voters voted in favor while 0.7% voted against it. Armenia says the constitution represents Nagorno-Karabakh as a sovereign democratic state, while Azerbaijan doesn't recognize it...

RIA Novosti: Azerbaijan's breakaway Karabakh adopts its first constitution

11/ 12/ 2006

Azerbaijan's breakaway province of Nagorno-Karabakh has overwhelmingly voted in favor of its first constitution, the central election commission said Monday.

"December 10 can be regarded as Nagorno-Karabakh Constitution Day," Nasibyan said, adding that the commission will announce the referendum's final results on December 13.

The Azerbaijani leadership is determined to restore its control over the separatist region.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.

PanARMENIAN.Net: Nagorno Karabakh People Voted for Adoption of Constitution

11.12.2006

The draft Constitution represents Nagorno Karabakh Republic as a sovereign democratic state. International observers and journalists watched the voting process.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.

RFE/RL: Karabakh Approves Pro-Independence Constitution

December 11, 2006

Azerbaijan does not recognize Nagorno-Karabakh's independence and has rejected the referendum as having no legal meaning.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.

reply posted on 11-12-2006 @ 04:53 PM by maloy

I think Azerbaijan will have more important things to worry about in the near future than Nagorno-Karabakh. Its own leadership is holding on to power through questionable tactics, and with billions of dollars worth of oil at stake you could start to see a strife for control. And bordering Iran and the Middle East doesn't improve the situtation for this Islamic country.

However what you can be sure about- is that if there is a change of government, Nagorno-Krabakh will become an issue of prime importance once again, used to rally the country behind its new leadership. This happened in Georgia the exact same way, only there wasn't as much at stake oil-wise.

reply posted on 23-4-2007 @ 05:34 PM by Hellmutt

Originally posted by Hellmutt

A U.S. company are going to mine uranium in Armenia!

And now the Russians are looking for uranium in Armenia as well...

BakuTODAY.net: Russia To Look For Uranium In Armenia

23/04/2007

The Russian and Armenian governments agreed on Monday to jointly develop Armenia’s untapped uranium reserves which they said could make the country self-sufficient in production of nuclear energy.

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A U.S. company, Global Gold, is already looking for uranium in another region of Armenia.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.

reply posted on 21-5-2007 @ 09:16 AM by Hellmutt

Azerbaijan is gagging its media. I noticed at the beginning of May that one of the sources I'm frequently checking, BakuTODAY.net, was not updating any news. There were no new news articles for several days, until the 8th of May when they submitted the following article:

BakuTODAY.net - Azerbaijan snaps ties with Paris-based media watchdog

08/05/2007

Azerbaijan on Monday said it would no longer cooperate with the Paris-based media rights group Reporters Without Borders which had slammed the Central Asian nation for gagging the media.

And today, I found this article:

RFE/RL: Azerbaijan Closes Offices Of Two Opposition Newspapers

May 21, 2007

Authorities in Azerbaijan have closed down the joint offices of two opposition newspapers, claiming that the closure was due to problems with maintenance and fire safety.

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At least seven journalists are now in prison in Azerbaijan. Rights groups have warned that Azerbaijani journalists who criticize the authorities or expose corruption face a growing risk of arrest or reprisal attacks.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.

They won't tolerate any criticism in Azerbaijan apparently. And because they have also banned the color orange, they say there won't be any orange revolutions there...

reply posted on 25-5-2007 @ 07:40 PM by Hellmutt

The Presidents of Armenia and Azerbaijan are going to hold talks regarding Nagorno-Karabakh on June 9th. US and Russia are working together on the settlement of the Karabakh conflict. And media reports from Armenia and Azerbaijan seems to indicate that Azerbaijan intends to take Nagorno-Karabakh by force.

RFE/RL: Armenia, Azerbaijan To Hold Karabakh Talks In June (May 25, 2007)

PanARMENIAN.Net: Ilham Aliev agreed to meet with Robert Kocharian in Saints Petersburg (25.05.2007)

PanARMENIAN.Net: Russia and U.S. work together on Karabakh conflict settlement (25.05.2007)

ITAR-TASS: Co-chairmen of Minsk Group visiting Armenia (23.05.2007)

PanARMENIAN.Net: Only “blitzkrieg” satisfies Azerbaijan (25.05.2007)

APA (Azeri Press Agency) : General Lieutenant Yashar Damirbulak: Azerbaijan has to decide on starting military operations for Karabakh

25 May 2007

Damirbulak saying that he actively participated in the building of Azerbaijani Army for a long time stated that there is not peaceful solution to the Nagorno Karabakh conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan.
If Azerbaijan intends to solve the problem through the mediation of international organizations, it should think over it. Azerbaijan lost those regions as a result of treachery inside. Therefore, Azerbaijan can only liberate Armenian-occupied regions by its own force. OSCE, UN or any foreign organization can do nothing for it. Everybody should remember that one million refugees and internally displaced persons are living in Azerbaijan. If Azerbaijan makes a decision on starting military operations for liberating its regions, it can liberate them,” he said.

reply posted on 3-7-2007 @ 09:07 PM by Hellmutt

Nagorno-Karabakh Ready For Independence - Azerbaijan Ready To "Liberate" It

According to the President of Nagorno-Karabakh, Armenia can recognize Nagorno-Karabakh at any moment. And according to the President of Azerbaijan, they might start operations to "liberate" Nagorno-Karabakh at any moment. Seems like something might happen at any moment...

Arkady Gukasyan: Armenia can recognize Nagorno Karabakh independence at any moment

07/03/2007

Armenia at any moment can recognize independence of Nagorno Karabakh, but it will not become solution to the problem, Nagorno Karabakh President Arkady Gyukasyan while giving a lecture at the Russian-Armenian University in Yerevan today. According to him, there is no such force in Armenia that opposes NKR independence, and if Yerevan and Stepanakert make a decision, Karabakh will be recognized as an independent state immediately, a REGNUM correspondent informs.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.

Ilham Aliyev: “We are getting closer to liberation of Karabakh”

07/02/2007

“The Karabakh territories will be liberated sooner or later. From the military point of view, Azerbaijan is the most powerful country in the region. Nobody wants a war or new suicide bombers. However, Azerbaijan is ready to launch any operation at any moment.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.

[edit on 2007/7/3 by Hellmutt]

reply posted on 20-7-2007 @ 04:49 AM by Hellmutt

Presidental Elections

There has been Presidental elections in Nagorno-Karabakh.

BBC: High turnout in Nagorno-Karabakh

Large numbers of people are reported to have voted in presidential elections in Nagorno-Karabakh, an enclave disputed between Armenia and Azerbaijan.

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Azerbaijan says the separatist Armenian authorities came to power in Nagorno-Karabakh as a result of ethnic cleansing and that the enclave must not be allowed to break away.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.

Bako Saakian seems to have won the elections with 85% of the votes.

RFE/RL: Former Security Chief Wins Nagorno-Karabakh Vote

[edit on 2007/7/20 by Hellmutt]

reply posted on 4-8-2007 @ 05:23 PM by Hellmutt

Deadlock

Talks on Nagorno-Karabakh settlement has "reached a deadlock", according to the Azerbaijani foreign ministry.

Regnum: Azerbaijani foreign ministry: Talks on Nagorno Karabakh settlement reached a deadlock

08/03/2007

Consultations of OSCE Minsk Group Co-Chair Matthew Bryza (USA) and Azerbaijan Foreign Minister Elmar Mamedyarov have been held today in Baku, Azerbaijan. Commenting on the results of the three-hour talks, Azerbaijani Deputy Foreign Minister Araz Azimov made an unexpected statement that the talks on the Nagorno Karabakh conflict settlement “reached a deadlock.”

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reply posted on 7-12-2007 @ 04:35 PM by Hellmutt

Turkish intelligence reports claims that the PKK is relocating to Nagorno Karabakh. Armenia denies the allegations and call it a "groundless provocation"...

PKK looks into relocating to Karabakh

30.11.2007

The Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK), faced with increasing pressure to end its activities in northern Iraq, may be seeking to re-establish its camps in the Armenian-controlled Nagorno-Karabakh region of Azerbaijan, intelligence reports indicate.

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UPI: PKK reportedly planning move to Azerbaijan

Dec. 1, 2007

The Kurdistan Workers Party may be planning a move to Azerbaijan from northern Iraq, Turkish intelligence reports say.

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Regnum: Vladimir Karapetyan: Allegations of PKK bases in Armenia and NK groundless provocation

12/05/2007

Armenian foreign ministry spokesman Vladimir Karapetyan has responded to a question by REGNUM regarding alleged PKK bases installation in Armenia, Nagorno Karabakh, and territories controlled by NK.

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reply posted on 12-1-2008 @ 04:05 AM by Hellmutt

Gold Rush

Record gold prices causes gold rush in Armenia. And increasing the risk of war...

BBC: Armenia's controversial gold rush

As the international price of gold touches record highs, the rush is on to find and exploit deposits around the world. Old mines are being revived: new ones are opening up.

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Mining experts say Zod has some of the richest gold deposits in the Caucasus region.

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Azerbaijan says a considerable amount of the Zod mine is in its territory, at present occupied by the Armenian military.

"Any activity in occupied territories without the permission of the Azeri authorities is illegal," says Araz Azimov, Azerbaijan's deputy foreign minister.

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Recently, Azerbaijan is believed to have been using its new-found oil and gas wealth to beef up its armed forces.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.

reply posted on 12-1-2008 @ 06:24 AM by 23432

ATS suppose to deny ignorance not help spread it .

reply posted on 12-1-2008 @ 01:25 PM by Hellmutt

reply to post by 23432

What do you mean? Please explain

reply posted on 12-1-2008 @ 01:49 PM by Fett Pinkus

Originally posted by Hellmutt
reply to post by 23432

What do you mean? Please explain

well its aparent that the title is rather misleading as war hasnt broken out has it?

reply posted on 12-1-2008 @ 02:12 PM by 23432

Originally posted by Hellmutt
reply to post by 23432

What do you mean? Please explain

This conflict needed to be explained in a broader approach and needs to be linked to " Great Game " .

The conflict should also be linked to Abkhazia vs Georgia .

reply posted on 12-1-2008 @ 02:20 PM by Hellmutt

Originally posted by 23432

The conflict should also be linked to Abkhazia vs Georgia

Of course. Btw, I also have a thread on Georgia vs. Abkhazia/South Ossetia:

Abkhaz Leader Has Ordered Army To Sink Any Georgian Ships In Its Waters

Another link to these conflicts is Pridnestrovie. Thread here.

reply posted on 12-1-2008 @ 04:17 PM by RiotComing

Hellmutt, off-topic.. but I love your Captain Beefheart avatar! Great song too.

(this smiley even looks a bit like the Captain)

reply posted on 10-2-2008 @ 09:16 AM by Hellmutt

Riot, Electricity is one of my favorites

Azerbaijan ready for war?

According to Azerbaijan's President, Ilham Aliyev, Azerbaijan is apparently now ready to "wage war" against Armenia over Nagorno-Karabakh.

FRE/RL: Nagorno-Karabakh: Azerbaijan Up For A Fight, But Armenia Unbowed

EU officials touring the South Caucasus this week were confronted by heated words from President Ilham Aliyev, who told them Azerbaijan is ready to "wage war" with neighboring Armenia over the disputed territory of Nagorno-Karabakh.

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Both countries are holding a presidential vote this year -- Armenia on February 19, and Azerbaijan in October.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.

In the event of war, Turkey will most likely support Azerbaijan. And Russia will support Armenia. Iran? I'm not sure...

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