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posted on Jan, 19 2006 @ 04:34 PM
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Dan Glaister in Los Angeles
Thursday January 19, 2006
The Guardian


It is the sort of invitation any poverty-stricken student would find hard to resist. "Do you have a professor who just can't stop talking about President Bush, about the war in Iraq, about the Republican party, or any other ideological issue that has nothing to do with the class subject matter? If you help ... expose the professor, we'll pay you for your work."
For full notes, a tape recording and a copy of all teaching materials, students at the University of California Los Angeles are being offered $100 (£57) - the tape recorder is provided free of charge - by an alumni group.


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Lecture notes without a tape recording net $50, and even non-attendance at the class while providing copies of the teaching materials is worth $10.
But the initiative has prompted concerns that the group, the brainchild of a former leader of the college's Republicans, is a witch-hunt. Several targeted professors have complained, figures associated with the group have distanced themselves from the project and the college is studying whether the sale of notes infringes copyright and contravenes regulations.

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It is getting worse folks.
Here's one to make you think.



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posted on Jan, 19 2006 @ 04:49 PM
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Thats kind of ridiculous. Okay, completely ridiculous. If this is true I would be really dissapointed in my fellow conservative Americans. Of course being a college student I wont say I couldnt use the money
, but this is not a good idea. I have a few liberal professors who really put their beliefs out in the classroom, the rest teach the curriculum and keep their political views to themselves, which is how it should be. But I pray this isnt true.



posted on Jan, 19 2006 @ 05:17 PM
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Ridiculous it is! This is just how the communists operate. You tell, and we'll give you extra rations of food.

What in the world is going on? I am seriously having a hard time beleiving all this on a daily basis....



posted on Jan, 19 2006 @ 05:20 PM
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I dont see it as how communists operate, I see it as politics as usual. Theres always some underhanded things going down. Doesnt matter which party it is. For almost any political figure in the history of the world there is corruption that goes with it at some point. But you gotta choose one or the other, but then again if you choose not to choose youve still made a decision, quoting Rush.



posted on Jan, 19 2006 @ 05:26 PM
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Hmm.... exposing professors who cant shut up about political matters in a class, what's the problem? If you just do what you are paid to do then there wont be any complications, your job is to teach the course curriculum not push your views and agendas on others. This is after all a public school, paid for by government money and my tax dollars, it is not a forum for your political views and agendas.



posted on Jan, 19 2006 @ 05:28 PM
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I am a communist/socialist. And I think no one has a clue in heck what a communist is, also for the ATS people to hear: Stop spouting BS names at people just because you dont like their political settup.
www.cpusa.org...
That is a line to the communist party in the US.
Having students rat out teachers should not be a huge "oh my!" when you have people like gw in office let alone others like him. This nation is fascist not a democracy, and under fascism people spy on each other.



posted on Jan, 19 2006 @ 05:28 PM
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Guess what?

When you spew your Anti-American garbage in public....you have to be prepared for the fallout. If your looking for a "communist", take a look at these PUNK professors teaching Chicano studies and Black-History.....basically its a "Hate-Whitey" class.

So what do they have to hide? They spew their raciest garbage in the classroom, they should be prepared to defend it outside of the classroom as well.

These professors are true communists and they brainwash so many young people into hating our great country.

Maximu§



posted on Jan, 19 2006 @ 05:41 PM
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Originally posted by dgtempe
Ridiculous it is! This is just how the communists operate. You tell, and we'll give you extra rations of food.


Since when are Right wingers communists??? What am I missing here??



posted on Jan, 19 2006 @ 05:57 PM
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Bandit, they are not communists, however, i cant get over some similarities. I was born in a communist country and this is how they live their lives. Ratting out others in order to gain something as little as an extra ration of rice.

And what happens to these professors when they voice their opinion? What is going to happen when someone hands in those tapes? Will they be labeled terrorists? Will they be shipped off to Guantanamo and caged?

The point is to shut them up. A professor lectures from a combination of his/her beleifs and history. I have never found that offensive. But times, they are a changing. So, unless they want to go away to camp, they had better shut up. The time has come.

Dictatorship-



posted on Jan, 19 2006 @ 06:14 PM
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So it happens in extreme right wing dictatorships and extreme left wing dictatorships. They're both the same where that concerns.

Ratting out others in order to gain something is also common in capitalistic societies, it's not exclusive to communist societies. But I understand that the term "communist" has a negative meaning, and that the term "right wing" is not necessarily so in U.S. societies.

No biggie..



posted on Jan, 19 2006 @ 06:15 PM
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A professor lectures from a combination of his/her beleifs and history. I have never found that offensive.


Well good for you, maybe someone else who paid to go to this school and who paid to get an education does find it offensive and inappropriate. Why should they have to sit there day after day listening to a professor talk about how much he likes or dislikes the Bush Administration? The only thing they should have to listen to is the class curriculum.


And what happens to these professors when they voice their opinion? What is going to happen when someone hands in those tapes? Will they be labeled terrorists? Will they be shipped off to Guantanamo and caged?


Is this a serious question? Because if it is I don't know what to say. They most severe thing that will happen is a slap on the wrist and a notice by the administrator to tone it down a bit.



posted on Jan, 19 2006 @ 06:51 PM
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Westpoint, i admire your optimistic views. This is going to be more than a slap on the wrist, imo. They at the very least will have to go teach elementary school.



posted on Jan, 19 2006 @ 06:55 PM
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I guess the wire taping is not enough now they want witnesses that can come forward and point fingers.

I thing Bush is getting to touchy when it comes to his public image.



posted on Jan, 19 2006 @ 07:11 PM
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Originally posted by dgtempe
Westpoint, i admire your optimistic views. This is going to be more than a slap on the wrist, imo. They at the very least will have to go teach elementary school.


Or the professors could just go back to teaching the curriculum they are paid (many times with public money) to teach.

Also, hate to break the bad news to you, but this problem goes way beyond colleges and universities. My daughter was in 8th grade art class, where her teacher gave the class an assignment to make a poster out of words. His example to the class was to combine the words "Bush" and "Liar". Then her English teacher decided (for what reason????) to explain the political spectrum to her class by saying "democrats are over on this side of the spectrum with greens while Republicans are over on this side of the spectrum with skinheads and nazis".

So you see, the attempted indoctrination of our children starts very early. And this is how the communists in russia and cuba did it". Same people and ideology, different country (the U.S.).


The good news is that you can sometimes do something about it. After my wife and I were done visiting principals and school superintendents and writing letters all the way up to congressmen, well, the art teacher is gone and the English teacher is back to teaching a very nice English (only) class.



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posted on Jan, 19 2006 @ 07:12 PM
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This is going to be more than a slap on the wrist, imo. They at the very least will have to go teach elementary school.


Well, considering the disciplinary action that has been taken against past college professors who have said very controversial things I have to disagree.


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posted on Jan, 19 2006 @ 10:58 PM
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Why single out Left wingers? I'm sure there are profs out there who spew fascist rhetoric in class as well... Of course the "people"(and I use that term lightly) who thought this stupid bribery campaign up would have to let go of their political biases but we can't have that now can we?


I just can't wait for the creatively edited recordings to hit the net and fox.

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posted on Jan, 19 2006 @ 11:16 PM
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Originally posted by sardion2000
Why single out Left wingers? I'm sure there are profs out there who spew fascist rhetoric in class as well...


OK, I'll take this one. I posted factual events that happened to my daughter. Where are examples of what you suggest? I've lived in several very liberal communities and I've honestly never heard of even one example of a conservative teacher/professor pushing their agenda. If I had, I would have been truly amazed and remember it quite well.



posted on Jan, 19 2006 @ 11:32 PM
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This sounds like a fantastic idea.

We can get George Soros to hire people to rat out their churches for making political statements during their sermons.

100 bucks sounds right.

I can see church goers turning Judas for a new pair of Nikes. These institutions don't pay taxes, and yet they influence political elections....and indoctrinate people.

And while we're at it, we need eliminate politcs from our armed forces as well. We can pay grunts to rat out their superior officers. And while we're at it, let's get O'Reilly, Hannity, and Rush off the Armed Forces radio.

I mean after all, fair is fair.



posted on Jan, 19 2006 @ 11:32 PM
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Guys... stop being so close minded and look at it from a different angle.

Well, teachers are supposed to stay out of politics IN CLASS.

I have MANY teachers who won't stop bashing the Bush administration, Republicans, and Conservatives IN class. ( I live in San Francisco). It's pretty ridiculous, they WON'T stop. Most ignorant teens will listen to whatever their teacher says (about current politics) without an open mind. Even during a school auditorium meeting, our dean decided to bash on the Bush administration and calling on students to "vote for the opposition" when they turn 18.... I have had teachers give their students extra credit for writing "Bush is a terrorist" on the essays. This is plain ridiculous, unprofessional, and HAS TO STOP.






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posted on Jan, 19 2006 @ 11:54 PM
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They wouldn't have to offer me any money.

I endured that crap when I was in college, except it wasn't about Bush.

The "higher" education centers are "left wing" training centers; have been since the first couple of decades of the last century.

In my own state, Alabama, the University of Alabama was targeted by the Reds because of its reputation for fine legal training. Yankee families who couldn't afford to send their kids to Ivy League schools sent them to the Univ. of Alabama because it was much cheaper and a fine school. This is why it was specifically targeted; they got both the Southern kids as well as many of the Yankee kids who might have otherwise escaped the treachery of left brainwashing.

The Soviets allegedly lost the war, but one of their cultural weapons are still damaging the nation with lies and perversion, and we are just now concerned with something as trivial as this?

You are very welcome, for putting a better conspiratorial spin on this borderline political thread. That is a reason I have useless trivial knowledge stuck in my head; not that it will sway one opinion (facts never do around here, as much as empty opinions of feeeelings), but to help out in such matters,





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