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Originally posted by deltaboy
You believe he is dead, yet you don't believe Al Jazeera's playing the audio tape as a credible source that he is alive?
Al-Jazeera on Thursday broadcast portions of an audiotape purportedly from Osama bin Laden
The CIA later said the tape is authentic, but the FBI was not so sure.
Osama did spell out a truce back in 2004 I believe just after the Madrid bombings. The European nations refuse to agree with the truce. It was news.
European politicians have ruled out negotiating with Osama bin Laden after a tape the CIA says is likely to be that of the al Qaeda leader offered a truce to European nations if they pull troops out of Islamic countries.
CNN experts who have listened to the tape say the speaker sounds like bin Laden but there is no way for CNN to independently confirm the speaker's identity.
Originally posted by Regensturm
He was a factor. And he did fight.
He got his famous AK-47 off a Soviet soldier he killed.
Stinger missiles to down Soviet helicopters just being one of the weaponry that was gained from such a relationship.
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Originally posted by deltaboy
You believe he is dead, yet you don't believe Al Jazeera's playing the audio tape as a credible source that he is alive?
No. The CIA 'authenticated' this tape. From the links in this thread:
Al-Jazeera on Thursday broadcast portions of an audiotape purportedly from Osama bin Laden
The CIA later said the tape is authentic, but the FBI was not so sure.
Osama did spell out a truce back in 2004 I believe just after the Madrid bombings. The European nations refuse to agree with the truce. It was news.
OK. I just don't remember it. I found something on it.
cnn
European politicians have ruled out negotiating with Osama bin Laden after a tape the CIA says is likely to be that of the al Qaeda leader offered a truce to European nations if they pull troops out of Islamic countries.
And
CNN experts who have listened to the tape say the speaker sounds like bin Laden but there is no way for CNN to independently confirm the speaker's identity.
I guess this year, the CIA has figured out how to do that, huh?
Again. the CIA 'authenticated' that tape.
Originally posted by ShiftTrio
It is interesting though that zawahiri released a tape of poetry today though.
2 things come to mind, Both men are dead and these tapes are old and they are trying to rally the troops and garner (is that a word) the soft side of Al queida.
Originally posted by ShadowXIX
If you believe that I got some land to sell you. First get the gun right its a AKSU-74 not a AK-47 theres a difference they dont even fire the same bullet.
Originally posted by ShadowXIX Yes the AKSU-74 Osama claimed he got off a dead Soviet general. Note he never anywhere said he killed the general only he " picked it off a dead general " Its a nice story isnt it.
Originally posted by ShadowXIX Osama came into Afghanistan and spread his own money around brought in heavy equipment from his families construction busniess. Osama was a organizer and financier he was not a warrior though he did do a great hype job after the war.
Originally posted by ShadowXIX
Virtually all of the war was waged locally by regional warlords. Not just Osama was a minor factor all foriegn fighters were. Osama also never got stinger missiles thoose went to local warlords.
Originally posted by ShadowXIX
For most of the War the US never even picked nor cared where money and weapons went as long as they were used against the Soviets.
Originally posted by ShadowXIX
Pakistani ISI handled all that and they had their own interest in the area they picked. Later we found out the groups the ISI wanted in power werent always the best ones from the US point of view. Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Iran they all wanted to back different factions and groups for their own interest.
Originally posted by ShadowXIX
But ask yourself if Osama was the great hero/fighter against the Soviets then why were the local people ready to turn him over to the US in 2000?
Originally posted by Regensturm
Ooh, oooh, I got the type of Russian gun wrong, oooh, oooh. Major disaster!
Grow up. It's an AK, regardless of what number follows it.
Originally posted by Regensturm
Actually he has said he got it off a Soviet he killed. You say he picked it off.
Maybe he picked it off a dead general he killed then?
Nice story? Yes, does not mean it's not true.