Acoustic archaeology, page 1
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Topic started on 18-1-2006 @ 02:06 PM by iamian
Looking through the ATS board i came across a thread posted by popek called Want to know how the eygptians made the Pyramids?
having read blackgaurdxiii and VelvetSplash comments on the sound theory i instantly remembered a documentary by Paul Devereux, "Sound from the Stone Age" (probably the first ever TV programme about the new archaeological sub-discipline now formally known as archaeoacoustics) for UK Channel 4's "Secrets of the Dead" series, shown in November 2001, Audio clip

In the Vedas (the oldest recorded religious writings) the Hindus outline their idea of the Nada or 'Unstruck Sound'. This unstruck sound is a fundamental layer of reality which underlies the physical plane which we perceive as matter or, as they call it, 'Struck Sound'. The recent scientific theory of superstrings appears to say the same thing. Subatomic particles may not be particles at all but, rather the resonance of an infinitely smaller layer of tightly woven strings - possibly containing hidden dimensions. We regularly find in our research that the latest scientific theories often seem to say the same thing as the oldest religious writings...are two sides of our minds finally coming together?



Strange new noises are emanating from both the archaelogical establishment and the Earth Mysteries movements, sounds that may have their origin in some of the world's most ancient and saced sites. Researchers have suggested that sound may even be integral to their design and purpose. Some of the oldest religious sites in Britain, such as Stonehenge and Newgrange are constructed as resonating structures
and often contain images of soundwaves. The capacity of soundwaves to alter consciousness has also been known since before recorded history. Cave paintings often depict wave shapes and often occur at sites where there are unusual natural acoustics.


Sound is the source of all manifestation...the knower of the mystery of sound knows the mystery of the whole universe (Hazrat Inayat Khan)

I would very much appreaciate any information regarding this subject or any comments, I really do think the prospect of what we could learn about
Acoustic archaeology could be huge in helping us to explain the past, some believe that sound as been recorded in old artwork and pottery, real voices from the past! just imagine our most amazing structures tuned in to the stars the moon and the sun its just incredible.



SOHO, which is a two-ton spacecraft devoted to looking at the sun 24 hours a day. SOHO has found something very intriguing inside the sun— sounds. We all know sound cannot travel through space, but sound can certainly travel through the plasma of the sun. Sound waves course through the sun's interior, reflecting off the surface and back into the interior. SOHO has detected more than 10 million separate notes, each of which has a unique path through the sun.

could this of be a source of free energy? the possibilities are endless.

all the best.. ian

Early rock
Sound & Structure
Piperstown
If Walls Could Talk!


reply posted on 21-1-2006 @ 06:20 AM by mythatsabigprobe
Thanks for that link, very interesting reading. I haven't found any info on that carving, except it seems to be from New Grange. I'll have to google that and see what I can find.

This quote from that site is especially interesting. If you search the ATS archives you'll find a thread on Tibetan Monks using sound to lift stones - they apparently did it by forming a semi circle around one person who had a horn like device to direct the sound, and who also conducted the rythym of the other's drum beats. I'd never thought about the possibility of making very low frequencies that way.

www.neolithic.reading.ac.uk...

Although it is unlikely that any musical instrument in the past would have been capable of generating such low notes, the physical properties of sound do not require the source to be continuous. Helmholtz Resonance could also be produced by a succession of percussive noises played in a regular rhythm at the correct speed. One means of generating Helmholtz Resonance might be to drum within the chambers of the monuments.


edit: here's that link about the Tibetan Monks.

[edit on 1/21/2006 by mythatsabigprobe]


reply posted on 21-1-2006 @ 06:28 AM by ArMaP
Originally posted by iamian
Originally posted by voodoo child
Originally posted by iamian
basic idea: Soundwaves were used to build our ancient Pyramids,
Soundwaves were used as an ancient technology,
Soundwaves carried the giant rocks of stonehenge from A to B,

to back up that theory, whats the theory of how big enough soundwaves were generated to be able to carry giant rocks?


I'm not sure, but i know its about frequencies tune in to an objects frequency and you could theoreticly make 10 tons as light as a feather.


I do not know how the reaction of an object to a sound can make it lighter.

Every object has an frequency that makes it react, like the suspension in a car. If you go over one of those stripes they put on the ground at a certain speed the suspension reacts in a certain way. If you go faster or slower the reaction will be different.

I knew a guy who made experiments with his car, a Citroen 2CV, and when he reached the right velocity, the frequency of the bumps was to much for the suspension and the car gave a big jump and he hit with the car top with his head. If he passed over the stripes faster the effect would be reduced and he even found a frequency that made it like the stripes were not there.

That’s the same effect that can break crystal cups.

As for the capacity of moving objects, and using the principle that the energy used must be always the same, not being related to the method, they had to use the same energy to make the sound, if the method had an efficiency of 100%.

Remember that the more things we use the more energy we have to use because of the loss of energy when we change from one method to other.


reply posted on 21-1-2006 @ 08:29 AM by iamian
Originally posted by mythatsabigprobe

edit: here's that link about the Tibetan Monks.

[edit on 1/21/2006 by mythatsabigprobe]


Thanks mythatsabibprobe, i'll try and find more info on the rock carving for you, cheers


reply posted on 21-1-2006 @ 09:19 AM by iamian
Originally posted by ArMaP

I do not know how the reaction of an object to a sound can make it lighter.

Every object has an frequency that makes it react, like the suspension in a car. If you go over one of those stripes they put on the ground at a certain speed the suspension reacts in a certain way. If you go faster or slower the reaction will be different.

I knew a guy who made experiments with his car, a Citroen 2CV, and when he reached the right velocity, the frequency of the bumps was to much for the suspension and the car gave a big jump and he hit with the car top with his head. If he passed over the stripes faster the effect would be reduced and he even found a frequency that made it like the stripes were not there.

That’s the same effect that can break crystal cups.

As for the capacity of moving objects, and using the principle that the energy used must be always the same, not being related to the method, they had to use the same energy to make the sound, if the method had an efficiency of 100%.

Remember that the more things we use the more energy we have to use because of the loss of energy when we change from one method to other.


I'm not sure myself, its a theory, i'm looking for the evidence to back it up and also help and questions to debate the possibilities, we know that the ancient monuments around the world are maps of the stars and have special alignments that correspond with astronomical events, this was important, the stones and the alignments of Stonehenge are placed with Acoustics in mind, this was very important, cave paintings all around the world resemble sound waves and frequencies, i suppose it depends on how far down the rabbit hole you want to go, Sound waves have the capability to controll us at the sub-atomic level, they make are body move uncontrollably what else can do that? Tesla tuned into the structure of his workshop and matched the frequency of the steel girders, the result was the near destruction of the building.
I believe its possible the Ancients had a device that could have tuned into the frequencies of the planets.


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