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Muaddib asked:
Valhall he already stated that the holocaust is a myth, among some of his other statements.
Do you actually think he would put forth an unbiased debate about this same issue he has adamantly stated is but a myth?
jsobecky states:
Anyone that would participate in this "debate" is nothing more than an enabler. To debate the issue would be giving his point of view some credence in the world of rational thought. Better to ignore his "debate" and to deny him the attention he so desperately craves.
I absolutely disagree...and this how nations go to war. If you know you're right, and you have all the evidence, why the thunder wouldn't you accept an act of apparent reconciliation on such an important point?
If we all were this way on this board, there'd be a lot of nothing going on, right?
As late as 1941, the Zionist group LEHI, one of whose leaders, Yitzhak Shamir, was later to become a prime minister of Israel, approached the Nazis, using the name of its parent organization, the Irgun(NMO)..[The proposal stated:] 'The establishment of the historical Jewish state on a national and totalitarian Pd bound by a treaty with the German Reich would be in the interests of strengthening the future German nation of power in the Near East...The NMO in Palestine offers to take an active part in the war on Germany's side'...The Nazis rejected this proposal for an alliance because, it is reported, they considered LEHI's military power 'negligible.'
"In 1938 a thirty-one nation conference was held in Evian, France, on resettlement of the victims of Nazism. The World Zionist Organization refused to participate, fearing that resettlement of Jews in other states would reduce the number available for Palestine." John Quigley, "Palestine and Israel: A Challenge to Justice."
The foreign ministry plans to hold a conference on the scientific aspect of the issue to discuss and review its repercussions."
He did not say where or when the conference would be held, nor who would attend.
subz said:
A militant terrorist movement such as the Zionists in the 1940's were ostensibly given a golden goose which seemed to validate and vindicate all their claims over previously Arab land.
Originally posted by Valhall
So let's get this straight, subz...
You're intimating that 6 million some odd Jews were murdered by Nazis in order to win world sentiment for the Zionists?
Originally posted by Valhall
The answer is yes. So don't try any weasle outs on the statement quoted above. That's what you intimated.
Originally posted by Valhall
And might I point out - it's a rather disgusting insinuation.
Originally posted by subz
The holocaust occurred, no one can deny that and I really have not read where Ahmadinejad said that no wholesale slaughter of Jews occurred in WW2. But how do we really know that the figure of 6 million people were murdered? To me the actual figure of 6 million is beside the point, one single person murdered is enough for me to condemn the Nazi's for eternity. But the fact still remains that this figure has hardly been verified and to question it has landed at least one person in jail. Why?
What I said is that the Zionist movement had a chance to prevent the deaths of Jews at the hands of the Nazis. They declined this offer, prove that wrong instead of trying to attack me.
What I said is that the Zionist movement had a chance to prevent the deaths of Jews at the hands of the Nazis. They declined this offer, prove that wrong instead of trying to attack me.