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The mark on hand or forehead.

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posted on Jan, 15 2006 @ 05:35 PM
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So we might assume we will be thrown into a somewhat electronical system, which we need to overcome, at first hand by not accepting that chip+ and on the other hand, not becoming, as to say it nicely, loyal to that system. A something which will claim to be our Master. A one who will make us his slave. Maybe in the long run we'll act zombie-like to external programmed voices. Talking to your house, your computer, your doorbell. We might lose all humanness in the end and talk to our fellow men as them being just something which responds. Dumb assholes we'll become if loyal to such a thing. Real mtfckrs. And I guess real mtfckrs to righteous men. If a lot go up in that thing, we might get pretty annoyed. Who knows. What is?? will be going on? It might haave allready started. Smoothly, making us sleep. Some grasping for faith, others noc lue. Sleepers and awoken ones. And travellers, from the one parallel to the other.

Is this Mark a chip?. The chip? How would a chipped one react on us telling he's gotten The Mark of The Beast.? let's pray.

everything's moving, so let's keep our eyes open.




posted on Jan, 15 2006 @ 06:18 PM
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Originally posted by Lastday Prophet

Most of those other versions have been written this century. That is why the bible gave this warning, for GOD foreknew that there would be those that would change the Bible in the last days.



The king James bible was first worked on in 1607 after the puritans asked King James I for a new translation. The oldest biblical scripture being the old testament which predate's the king james scripture.

And looky at this.




Old Testament
www.bible.org...

13:17 Thus no one was allowed to buy49 or sell things50 unless he bore51 the mark of the beast – that is, his name or his number.


So really, I pose the question again, which version is the correct version? Which religion is the true religion? Are you ready to bank your eternal afterlife due to your opinion of a satanic NWO plot leading to the end of the world?

It's your after life after all.. Choose wisely.



posted on Jan, 15 2006 @ 07:18 PM
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Those that will take the mark deserve what's coming to them, they mocked GOD, mocked his people, were hard-headed and hard-hearted and refused to hear the truth.

I have no sympathy for them, they want to live a life without GOD, let them spent eterinty without him, they shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, it will be no laughing matter.



posted on Jan, 15 2006 @ 07:30 PM
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LastDay,

Are you sure your following the correct biblical scripture? Are you 100% sure that it's the full truth? Are you ready to throw away eternal peace if your wrong?



posted on Jan, 15 2006 @ 08:19 PM
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Yes I'm 100 % sure. No doubt whatsoever, my ministry deals exclusively with exposing the Mark and the coming One World Government.

I have studied the Mark for over 20 years, and I have seen how things have brought us to this time of technology which will allow the Beast monitor all the communications of everyone on the planet.



posted on Jan, 15 2006 @ 08:39 PM
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Did you not post this?




Rev 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:


Yet your not denying how the king james version of the bible came into being nor denying it's recent historical age compared to the original old testament?

I can only surmise your situation as this... You've been had.



posted on Jan, 15 2006 @ 09:19 PM
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I've sometimes wondered if our modern day computers and electronic computer system is the beast since I thought I read somewhere about the beast speaking. Computers can have a synthetic voice now. Someone might say I have the mark of the beast in my hand if I am holding a credit card, debit card, or any other device that uses computers or electronic buying and selling and I'm holding it in my hand.

Using electronic money our every movement can be tracked and controlled. Computers and electronic networks are not human and can be used as an instrument of evil if it gets in the wrong hands. Even my own paycheck now is electronically deposited in my bank account. First it was offered as a convenience. Then someone in charge said most people were already using it and that everyone else would just have to accept it. Now I have to go online if I want to verify my pay stub information.

Of course if the mark of the beast were an actual implant, it could be loaded up with some viral dna or something that could be triggered to go off. It could be a useful blackmail weapon against anyone who failed to cooperate after they have already been implanted. An implant wouldn't have to be used for blackmail though, if someone spoke out against the wrong topic, they could simply get sick and die with no one else knowing the real reason why.



posted on Jan, 15 2006 @ 09:42 PM
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Well no... that can't be. So far from all I've read only the king james version of the bible says it's in the hand which obviously mean's RFID chips.

Yet, if the king james version of the bible is a false dogma with added in part's as it justly appear's to be and the old testament being older is right, then your idea's just might hold merrit.


Just don't tell anyone else.



posted on Jan, 16 2006 @ 03:46 AM
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Originally posted by Produkt
Did you not post this?




Rev 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:


Yet your not denying how the king james version of the bible came into being nor denying it's recent historical age compared to the original old testament?

I can only surmise your situation as this... You've been had.



It's true, but what does that mean, that one isn't supposed to go in dept in other things besides truth. Other things might be opinions that can be seen as truth. Or might these other opinions be seen as truths from something else, ego-truths, might be called truths of devilish nature? h interesteing. you know how it goes. Or He want us to only stay open to his truth. So we may cometh to Him. And leave then all other nonsense behind.

For He is Good. He Ist Righteous. He Is Our Judge.

yours,

Alienaddicted.



posted on Jan, 16 2006 @ 03:51 AM
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Originally posted by Lastday Prophet
Yes I'm 100 % sure. No doubt whatsoever, my ministry deals exclusively with exposing the Mark and the coming One World Government.

I have studied the Mark for over 20 years, and I have seen how things have brought us to this time of technology which will allow the Beast monitor all the communications of everyone on the planet.


Hey Last Day Prohet,

would you like to give us an open explanation of what you have studied?. This might be very interesting, not?. Take your time to do this in this thread, but offcourse you might to want to start another. Take your time. I'd really appreciate it.

David



posted on Jan, 16 2006 @ 05:38 AM
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Originally posted by alienaddicted
It's true, but what does that mean, that one isn't supposed to go in dept in other things besides truth. Other things might be opinions that can be seen as truth. Or might these other opinions be seen as truths from something else, ego-truths, might be called truths of devilish nature? h interesteing. you know how it goes. Or He want us to only stay open to his truth. So we may cometh to Him. And leave then all other nonsense behind.

For He is Good. He Ist Righteous. He Is Our Judge.

yours,

Alienaddicted.


What does it mean? It mean's your follow a dogma that was added to. Words put there that weren't there before. By the word of god, when the time come's those following the wrong path are pretty much screwed. Shouldn't your aim be discovering the right path and not blindly following a book created in recent history that had words added to it? Shouldn't you listen to your god and not your fear's that RFID is the mark of the beast just becuase you read it in a book that was added to by man?

idk, is there a quote in the bible that says King James I was exempt from god's word?



posted on Jan, 16 2006 @ 11:37 AM
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You shouldnt take Revelations to seriously. After all the best way to describe it would be a social commentary disguised in apocalyptic symbolism from ~2000 years ago



posted on Jan, 16 2006 @ 01:20 PM
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I see many closed minds here.

While this RFID chip could be it, it is not the only thing to watch out for.

This description could be a bank card in your right hand and a PIN in your memory.

Many may already be doing it with credit and debit cards - who knows... yet.

The thing to see is when cash begins to leave, then notice what is being used instead of real cash.

Until then, one can only watch. How many times have people really believed something only to find out they were wrong later. The only way to do this is not go 100% into one thing that has been given us by another human, but save a few %'s for other possibilities. We are, after all, only human.

Now if Revelations was written by God directly and/or there was a clearer picture of what the mark is, then that would be worth banking eternity on.



posted on Jan, 16 2006 @ 07:55 PM
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Originally posted by Produkt
Well no... that can't be. So far from all I've read only the king james version of the bible says it's in the hand which obviously mean's RFID chips.

Yet, if the king james version of the bible is a false dogma with added in part's as it justly appear's to be and the old testament being older is right, then your idea's just might hold merrit.


Just don't tell anyone else.


the old testament did not include revelations as it had not been written yet . so therefore there would be no info about the beast or his mark.
also the one thing no one thinks about is that reveations is a code just as 666 was a code.

think about this.....hitler rounded up all the jews and made them wear the star of david so that everyone would know who was a jew. they had no writes and they were persicuted. then they were liberated and given new land that was called israel. yes its a littloe shakey but could be possible that revelations was misinterpeted and this is what it talked about.

as far as the government wanting to implant us and have total control.
you dont need revelations to point this out look at whats happening in america now.........



posted on Jan, 16 2006 @ 08:21 PM
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Hmm, interesting. Did abit of research. Looks like revelations was written roughly 93-96. I still have a problem tho with alot of different translation's of that particular passage. Basicly having trouble locating the oldest translation, or original passage as it was first penned. The King James version is relativly recent in history, and the curcumstance's leave me to suspect it's translation. I haven't yet found out why the puritans wanted a new translation. What was wrong with the older one that they've been using before? And why do most other translation's all say the same basic message regarding the mark of the beast, yet King James' version says something completly different, such as the mark being in the hand. How are we to be certain the King James version translated it correctly when it's the only one I've seen so far that places an exact in the hand location for the mark? I'm banking on it's a mistranslation as all other either talk of it or place it on the hand.




as far as the government wanting to implant us and have total control.


I really don't see that happening. Alot of the so called evidence I've seen preached on ATS for it is based upon opinion's and twisting the fact's.

[edit on 16-1-2006 by Produkt]



posted on Jan, 16 2006 @ 08:25 PM
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How many times have people really believed something only to find out they were wrong later.


You mean like how the church spouted for hundred's of year's that the sun revolved around the earth and took 450 years to officially apologize for being wrong? Or how the church put innocent people to death because they assumed they were witch's?

The church has been wrong many time's itself. What if it's wrong about this too? There's still alot of doubt that jesus really did exist. There's very very little documentation outside of the bible, and some of that documentation is still iffy.



posted on Jan, 16 2006 @ 08:53 PM
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Originally posted by Lastday Prophet
Those that will take the mark deserve what's coming to them, they mocked GOD, mocked his people, were hard-headed and hard-hearted and refused to hear the truth.

I have no sympathy for them, they want to live a life without GOD, let them spent eterinty without him, they shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, it will be no laughing matter.


so what do you think the mark will be?



posted on Jan, 16 2006 @ 09:22 PM
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Why would anyone quote the KJV of the bible? Or even believe anything in it? Have you ever done any research on King James? Or the history of why he needed to write his own version of the bible?

Here's one to start you off Who is King James?

He was definitely no angel



posted on Jan, 16 2006 @ 09:46 PM
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Thank you very much Beer_Guy! I've been looking for something like this. I already knew the history behind the King James bible was abit spotty, but this help's to understand more of the history. Again, thank's.



posted on Jan, 16 2006 @ 10:35 PM
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Here are two post I did that explains my view concerning The Beast and what shall shortly come to pass upon the earth.

I am sure this will start a Firestorm !


www.belowtopsecret.com...'

www.belowtopsecret.com...'



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