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zef

posted on Jan, 14 2006 @ 10:14 PM
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I am regretfully post-abortive. I feel that I have visitations from the 3 children that I aborted. I am not alone----other women who are troubled by past abortions and attend the same support group as I do have had paranormal experiences as well. Some report audibly hearing their babies cry---well after the abortion took place.

Are there any other mothers who have miscarried or aborted children whom they feel "hang around them" from time to time?



zef

posted on Jan, 14 2006 @ 10:39 PM
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I talk to them. I ask them to pray for me and my family. I have asked them to forgive me and I've sung them lullabies.

One day, I prayed and asked them to come back inside of me. I know this sounds weird---but I have all the fetal movement sensations--the little kicks---that you get when you are pregnant (I have given birth to 2 children since the abortions so I know what that feels like.) The little kicks have been so real that I've taken pregnancy tests and even went to the doctor to confirm that I wasn't pregnant. All I can think is that God lets them come down for visits---in my womb.



posted on Jan, 14 2006 @ 10:45 PM
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first off, if God is real, then I doubt very seriously he'd let babies that you had killed, come visit you.
and secondly, in my opinion there should be no forgiveness for abortion.
It should be illegal. Get pregnant and kill the baby, real smart.
answer me this. Why not just have it and give it up for adoption?


zef

posted on Jan, 14 2006 @ 10:49 PM
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I wish I had. I am a pro-life speaker now and I have written songs for the children I aborted. But society in general and family and friends pushed me toward all 3 abortions. Unfortunately, I listened.

This is not meant to be a pro-choice vs. pro-life debate.

You don't have a very strong concept of a merciful God, do you?

So you're pro-life---good for you! Never heard of a pro-life witch before.

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posted on Jan, 14 2006 @ 11:11 PM
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i am not a witch. I am just interested in learning about it. plus I am an author, an am writing a book about witchcraft



posted on Jan, 14 2006 @ 11:30 PM
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Ive heard stories like this before. It seemed to be bogus, but Ive seen now quite a few women saying this so it interests me. I don't believe human beings talk to the dead though, thus this could be either psychological or some....other phenomena.


zef

posted on Jan, 14 2006 @ 11:40 PM
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Pregnancy is the closest bond 2 persons (mother and child) can have. These visitations are very real for me. I can't explain it.

Nakash---what stories have you heard from other women?

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posted on Jan, 14 2006 @ 11:51 PM
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I heard once a woman saying that her child visited her after her abortion (and did things like weep and laugh, etc.), there was a television show on this some time ago as well (History channel? Hallmark? can't remember). Not saying I believe it, but it's very interesting nonetheless.


zef

posted on Jan, 14 2006 @ 11:56 PM
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A regular TV channel actually aired this? I"m shocked. If you remember it, please post. There is a conspicuous absence of the subject of abortion on TV (with the exception of the Alito hearings.)



posted on Jan, 15 2006 @ 12:07 AM
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Maybe I saw this in Latinamerica ( my mother is Brazilian). They have a show Friday night in Brazil which is usually on unconventional stuff (ghosts, angels, strange scientific advances,etc.) could have been their, but it was this half hour show that I saw as a kid which had this subject, it sort of freaked me out (I always watched this show Fridays, I lived in Latinamerica for 5 years and can speak both Spanish and Portuguese. I used to watch it all the time in my Grandmother's living room with spooky statues of St.George slaying the Dragon, and copies of "life after death" series tapes from my Grandfather).

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zef

posted on Jan, 15 2006 @ 12:10 AM
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It would make a hell of a lot more sense for such a show to have been aired in a predominantly Catholic country like Brazil where abortion is viewed as an evil. Abortion is legal in Brazil if it is the only means to save the woman's life or if the pregnancy is the result of rape.

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posted on Jan, 15 2006 @ 12:16 AM
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Actually there are more Protestant churches in Brazil than all of Europe put together. Abortion is obviously illegal though (as in most of Latinamerica, exception being Mother's life at risk or rape/incest).

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zef

posted on Jan, 15 2006 @ 01:12 AM
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"Weird things started to happen. My co-workers began hearing the sound of "little babies running down the hall." I went out one morning to cut some wild sunflowers for the recovery room, and I was certain I heard a little baby's laugh. I tore into the bush, scratching my arms, looking for the child, but found nothing but leaves."-------taken from Norma McCorvey's (the former Jane Roe) testimony of the years she spent working in an abortion clinic.

These strange happenings began at about the time she began to rethink her involvement with the abortion movement.

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zef

posted on Jan, 15 2006 @ 01:22 AM
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"A woman reported telling her nine year old son about her abortion, which had taken place years before he was born. He said, 'I knew, Mom, that there was something wrong. I always have nightmares about knives and my mother killing me. I have an imaginary brother who wants to kill me. If you had not aborted the other, would you have aborted me?'" -----from Abortion Survivors by Dr. Philip Ney.


zef

posted on Jan, 15 2006 @ 01:25 AM
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As I perused the net, I found evp's and photos of supposed ghost babies and toddlers. Why not a fetus haunting? Is that so impossible if we accept the haunting of children?

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posted on Jan, 15 2006 @ 09:27 PM
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As I perused the net, I found evp's and photos of supposed ghost babies and toddlers. Why not a fetus haunting? Is that so impossible if we accept the haunting of children?


Because children have been alive, fetuses havent. (Which is debatable, I guess.) But still... they have never even breathed, made any sort of audible noise (so how can you hear their crying), it hasn't even learned to crawl so how can it crawl down the halls, etc.

I guess it depends how late on. If it was like right before you were about to give birth I might be able to understand. But a fetus? I just don't see how something the size of a bean could haunt you.

Sort of like getting haunted by a plant you killed. Oh wait.... someone actually has discussed that on here before too.


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posted on Jan, 15 2006 @ 09:32 PM
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mrwupy


zef

posted on Jan, 16 2006 @ 10:00 AM
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This is not an abortion debate. Choosing to kill your embryo or fetus is every woman's right as an American. I don't even want to go there.

This started more as a thread about me and my perceived hauntings----talking to my children, and praying for them to come back inside of me and feeling light kicks that were so real that I've bought pregnancy tests and seen a physician who can find no explanation.

And as to the strange phenomena reported in the abortion clinic, could it be ghosts of aborted infants or the activity of demons? I do not know. I do know that according to the Satanic Bible, demons are released not in response to human sacrifice itself, but in response to the suffering the one being sacrificed has to endure before death. And abortion is about the bloodiest, most mangled and suffering way to die. Most are dismembered in the process. BTW, I have worked as a nurse in a hospital that did abortions so I know now exactly what happens (I didn't know during the time of my abortions since I was not yet a nurse and nobody bothers to tell you at the abortion facility.)

QUOTE"I just don't see how something the size of a bean could haunt you."

The question isn't size or shape, but rather sentience. With our current technology, brain waves are detected at 6 weeks gestation not to mention the presence of hands and feet and budding fingers and toes. However, that doesn't mean that sentience necessarily begins then. Perhaps we discredit the "bean" and its awareness too quickly.




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posted on Jan, 16 2006 @ 11:00 AM
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Spirit has no real shape and can fit in anything. We all started out at the shape of beans, and grew into the adults we are today, and our spirits now are the same as they were when we were a bean. Not to mention many cultures beleive in re-incarnation so having an abortion is pushing a spirit ready for rebirth back to the end of the line.

I've had friends haunted by spirits of there aborted/miscarried children, So i do believe it's very possible. I've even had dreams about my son well before i found out i was pregnant, not to mention i knew that I am going to have a daughter as well (currently pregnant with a girl).

I think your phenominia may be a sort of penance for what happened. Personally, I would try to make peace with what happened and with them, like you are now. Remember as long as we ask for forgiveness and really mean that we are sorry, no harm will come to us.



posted on Jan, 16 2006 @ 12:26 PM
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If you are asking for help with this matter I will say this.
You are deffinatly the fetter in which these ghosts are being created.To say that,the exsistence of these ghosts are directly tied to yo and your being.

Due to thinking and putting energy towards their spirits although very small but at one point exsistant you have tied them to your prescence.

I really dont want to go in depth here for respect for you and your well being but will explain further if you want understand that it would be
somewhat how can i say disturbing and cryptic.



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