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Topic started on 14-1-2006 @ 11:01 AM by dgtempe
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hZogby
10/29-11/2 Ipsos
10/8-9 Zogby (LV)
6/27-29 Net Change
Jun-Nov
Support Impeachment 53%
50%
42%
+11%
Oppose Impeachment 42%
44%
50%
-8%
Impeachment Margin +11%
+6%
-8%
+19%
The link breaks it down according to political affiliation, etc.
So,  , brace yourselves. Desperate times call for desperate measures.
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reply posted on 14-1-2006 @ 11:04 AM by WestPoint23
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They don't even know all the facts of the case, it’s like saying I don't like this book without even having read it.
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reply posted on 14-1-2006 @ 11:27 AM by dgtempe
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Sure they do. If we dont know all the facts whose fault is it?
I'll tell you what we do know. We know this is just the tip of the iceburg, read the telecommunications reports of how the government makes demands
on all telephone companies and they cant cope with it.
It must take a lot of manpower to go thru emails, Instant messaging systems, phone calls, you name it. Why, there is an unseen army out there doing
all the dirty paranoid work. Its really not their fault. They have orders and are making a living. Talk about a small conservative government.
LOL...
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reply posted on 14-1-2006 @ 11:38 AM by WestPoint23
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Umm... all of what you just posted is assumption and opinion except for one thing, and even that was twisted out of proportion. Let me save you the
trouble of waiting, Bush will not get impeached. Good day to you
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reply posted on 14-1-2006 @ 11:42 AM by dgtempe
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Well, wanting and getting are two different things. I agree, he will NOT
be impeached.
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reply posted on 14-1-2006 @ 12:42 PM by EastCoastKid
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Because of big media's firewall (for this administration) in this country, it would literally take Bush being caught on tape butchering children to
be impeached.
It's insane.
BushCo. once again broke the law, and IS breaking the law. When are the American people and its so-called representatives going to wake up and face
reality? Its insane.
Or when is the media going to pull its collective head out of its X and do the right thing (by actually covering it right) and doing its job?
I ain't holding my breath. This is one reason I am seriously considering getting out of the mainstream media. If Knight Ridder does sell, that will
be it for me.
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reply posted on 14-1-2006 @ 12:52 PM by EastCoastKid
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Every day I see the biggies in big media scratching their collective heads over why readership is tanking. It's the theater of the absurd.
They act like the internet barely exists. They are trapped in an institutional fog of their own making. And they will sink with that ship. Readers are
bailing from papers b/c they don't say anything. Readers are a helluva lot sharper than those pin heads dare to realize. They are moving in droves to
get their news online, where the truth actually exists. And where the establishment has no power over controlling content. I don't know how many
times I have heard veteran journalists lament this; and how their children - raised in big media - DESPISE newspapers. They tell their parents that
the newspaper industry should either rehab itself and get with the program, or go rot in hell.
Amen to that. And that's sad, coming from folks within Knight Ridder. KR is the only mainstream US news organization that actually does investigative
journalism these days. That is exactly why, I believe, the powers that be are demanding it be sold. If you can't control it, buy it.
KR has been very bad for BushCo. Especially, digging into the corruption and crimes in Iraq by our military and its allies.
The mainstream media could definitely contribute to impeachment, if only their interests laid with the American people rather than its masters in
Washington.
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reply posted on 14-1-2006 @ 01:00 PM by EastCoastKid
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This is exactly what I am talking about.. the mainstream doesn't get it; and they don't want to. Whatever would they do without all their
access to those in high places?
Impeachment Calls Grow Louder
By Matthew Rothschild
The Progressive
Thursday 12 January 2006
I'm telling you, my friends, there's something going on at the grassroots that the mainstream media isn't getting.
And that's this urgent desire by millions of Americans to defenestrate Bush from power and reclaim our democracy.
www.truthout.org...
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reply posted on 14-1-2006 @ 02:23 PM by sensorstar
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Yes...we can only pray it happens...if it did it would be the biggest case of "POETIC JUSTICE" the world as ever known...
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reply posted on 14-1-2006 @ 02:51 PM by marg6043
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People don't you heard the news, Mr. Bush is giving himself executives power over the congress to do whatever he deemed fit to keep the nation safe
and Americans from hurting themselves
We need to be tag, scrutinized, violated (for our own good) conversations heard and control.
We are nothing but littler children and Mr. Bush is our Father.
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reply posted on 14-1-2006 @ 03:18 PM by LetKnowledgeDrop
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Bush cant get impeached. He has executive powers that ''superside liberties'' How bout that. But its for our own good, of course. They are
monitoring cell phones; monitoring emails;, passing laws that gut the constitution and take away our rights; they pass laws that create huge tax cuts
for the rich who dont need it; they do a louzy job responding to Katrina and Rita and all of that so they can claim they need more funding; they want
to take away our guns; and they want to silence all those who oppose their plans.......
But its because they love us, and want to take care of us. Its not because they want power and control, dont worry
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reply posted on 14-1-2006 @ 03:30 PM by WestPoint23
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 they want to take away our guns; 
I did not respond to the rest of your post because its a matter of opinion, and that's fine your entitled to have one. However the highlighted
statement above is not matter of opinion it’s just a blatant lie.
Weapons Ban Expires
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reply posted on 14-1-2006 @ 03:38 PM by marg6043
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The expiration of the 10-year-old ban on 19 types of assault weapons
Assault weapons and guns that citizens keep for safety at home is two difference things.
I am against assault weapons, because it will bring military type of weapons into the hands of undesirables in society.
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reply posted on 14-1-2006 @ 03:47 PM by WestPoint23
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 Assault weapons and guns that citizens keep for safety at home is two difference things. 
Oh, there is? So is there a ban against hand guns? Don't think so. The second amendment does not specify which kinds of guns we are entitled to have
Marge, I’m under the impression that all types are legal.
But it puzzles me that you would support a president who puts restrictions on the second amendment, but not support another who puts restrictions on
other amendments. Why is that Marge? Perhaps politics?
Careful what you say Marge, you don’t want to contradict yourself
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reply posted on 14-1-2006 @ 03:48 PM by LetKnowledgeDrop
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Really? They dont want our guns?
www.infowars.com...
www.gunowners.org...
americanfreepress.net/
www.thenewamerican.com...
www.jpfo.org...
educate-yourself.org...
www.newsmax.com...
This is just some. Thankfully, not everyone feels this way, many people are fighting against it.
As for this link
www.usatoday.com...
It says in that very article that ''Bush said in the 2000 campaign that he would sign an extension of the 10-year ban on the semiautomatic
weapons''.
It also says ''Reps. Christopher Shays, R-Conn., and Michael Castle, R-Del., said they were disheartened. "My leadership is playing Russian
roulette," Shays said. "There will be without question a horrific crime committed without an assault weapon ban, and every member of Congress will
have to ask where were they on this issue."
I just thought Id point that out.
Banning semi-automatic guns is the first step, the totalitarian tip-toe, towards total gun bans. Hitler, Stalin, Mao, all of them did this to get gun
confiscations going. People who dont learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
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reply posted on 14-1-2006 @ 03:54 PM by marg6043
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We own guns at least my husband does but none of them Are military type assault weapons.
I am not particularly interested on having a military type of weapon in my home.
What can I do with a machine gun if I was able to legaly buy one.
Tell me Westpoint, will you buy one?
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reply posted on 14-1-2006 @ 04:19 PM by WestPoint23
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Umm... most of your links talk about gun control under extreme circumstances such as natural disasters, it say nothing about confiscating guns under
normal circumstances. And I might add that it was the very person that you have alleged wants to take “our guns away” that did not authorize an
extension to he Ban.
 I am not particularly interested on having a military type of weapon in my home. 
Marge with all due respect who cares what your interested in, the fact of the matter is that the second amendment does not specify which guns we
should own. So I ask again why do you support restrictions on some amendments and not on others?
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reply posted on 14-1-2006 @ 05:01 PM by EastCoastKid
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Originally posted by WestPoint23
The second amendment does not specify which kinds of guns we are entitled to have Marge, I’m under the impression that all types are
legal. 
Does not specify? That's not a very good argument, West Point. When the 2nd amendment was written, there was no such thing as an automatic assault
rifle. It would definitely be interesting to know what the founding fathers would have to say - if they could see things now.
*I do support the 2nd amendment.
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reply posted on 14-1-2006 @ 05:27 PM by WestPoint23
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 Does not specify? That's not a very good argument, West Point. When the 2nd amendment was written, there was no such thing as an automatic
assault rifle. 
Not a good argument? So If I told you that since E-mails and Phone calls are not specifically mentioned under the 4th amendment, and since there was
no such thing as E-mail or Cell Phones when the founding fathers wrote it they should not be private. Would you say that was a good argument?
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reply posted on 14-1-2006 @ 05:42 PM by EastCoastKid
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In the spirit of George W. Bush, I think you should accept what I say and be quiet. You're below my pay grade.
No seriously, I'll get back to you on that.. just as soon as I can......
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