posted on Feb, 8 2006 @ 01:58 AM
"Can I hear your thoughts on Perpetual Motion" == Beer Guy
Ok, but lets look "inside the box" first.
"perpetual motion breaks so many laws of physics, no device can possibly achieve it" == czakky
Depends on how you want to understand the term "perpetual". I will submit two manmade devices
that I believe are now "perpetual" motion devices in every physical sense of the word. They are
Pioneer 10 and 11. It goes back to what Hal9000 said earlier. Put your thinking inside a box and
you can argue that even the universe is not perpetual. So, just for Beer Guy, I will argue that a perpetual
motion device need only last my lifetime. After that, I could care less. Outside the grand universe, which
is, by my definition, absolutely crammed with perpetual motion examples, we take a sampling of things that might
apply to such a device. If it moves inside our atmosphere, there is friction. If it moves by support relative to
other parts, there is wear, which increases friction.
To get it moving with some applied force is acceptable, after all, didnt the universe get a free push, czakky ?
Once this thing is moving, you have to have some means of counteracting wear and friction. So we take some
hints from Advisor's first post above.
What can we use that is "free" ? The Earth has a Gravity field, and a Magnetic
Field, and Rotational inertia. (Coriolis Force, Centripetal, Centrifugal etc, ) So Beer Guy, my suggestion is to
figure out how to use the available "free" forces to compensate for friction and wear. While czakky might argue that
its not "free", but stealing from the Earths inertia or something like that, for our respective lifetimes, and his, make it
run and you got it.