AboveTopSecret.com is a Government COINTELPRO Disinformation Operation, page 2
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reply posted on 12-1-2006 @ 01:15 PM by SkepticOverlord
Originally posted by One Man Short of Manhood
Why is this incident being handled in an open ATS public manner when every other issue is handled behind closed doors.

Attributes of the copyright issues were discussed in the open by myself and other staff, while members speculate on the possible legal action. Staff will not comment on our direction in dealing with this.


Something as simple as a member banning is forever a non-subject, and don't ask where the member went, or you may get it too.
Unwanted threads are locked away in the trash bin, never a word is mentioned of them.

These are local events, not having any external influence on ATS. There have been very public banning events where we disclosed the reasons... is there someone specific you have a question about?


A huge Television contract is upcoming and we are not even told which network it is on.

Becasue we cannot say until all paperwork is complete and actual filming begins... this is standard.


Yet, some crack pot says ATS is a goverment site , and we the general population of ATS is told everything except the name of the lawyer representing ATS in legal action.

We're not going to comment on anything that is related to the potential of any legal action.

However, there appears to be an effort to "Google Bomb" ATS related to the "COINTELPRO" term (as we've seen by the Wiki entry as an example), and some of the accusatory content. With over 1 million unique pages of material, we can counter that better than anyone. We will never engage in anything that purposefully slings derogatory arrows in the direction of another site (we'd be devastating)... outside of singular posts that are based on research of course.

Our kung-fu is strong.


reply posted on 12-1-2006 @ 01:40 PM by billybob
Originally posted by MemoryShock
The 'whether or not ATS is a CointelPro operation' is irrelevant.

Think about it this way....

We have here a collection of people who go out of their way to collect information and present it, along with their own impressions. Many threads have the benefit of logical, critical analysis that is completely lacking in any other news media. We're interactive here.....

Seriously......disinformation is just there to distract you. If you know what you're looking for, noone can dissuade you from that.

This thread was created to highlight excellent examples of ATS collaboration.....let's not get distracted and turn it into another speculative excercise on the motivations of a website that is in actuality a composite of each and every one of us.........


right on, man.

here's three countercointelpro techniques for defeating the delphi technique

from external source-american holistic health association

There are ways to diffuse the technique when you see it being used by Delphi "facilitators". Lynn Sunter gives the following three simple steps.

1.Always be charming, courteous, and pleasant. Smile. Moderate your voice so as not to come across as belligerent or aggressive.

2.Stay focused. If possible, jot down your thoughts or questions. When facilitators are asked questions they don't want to answer, they often digress from the issue that was raised and try instead to put the questioner on the defensive. Do not fall for this tactic. Courteously bring the facilitator back to your original question. If he rephrases it so that it becomes an accusatory statement (a popular tactic), simply say, "That is not what I asked. What I asked was..." and repeat your question.

3.persistent. If putting you on the defensive doesn't work, facilitators often resort to long monologues that drag on for several minutes. During that time, the group usually forgets the question that was asked, which is the intent. Let the facilitator finish. Then with polite persistence state: "But you didn't answer my question. My question was..." and repeat your question.


of course, that is for a live group of people in a meeting situation, but i think it translates nicely to the web, personally.

[edit on 12-1-2006 by billybob]


reply posted on 12-1-2006 @ 02:25 PM by SkepticOverlord
Originally posted by LazarusTheLong
I do wonder at the administrations decision to have a thread with this headline...
GOOGLE will forever taint us now....

Google has been, and always will be, very good to us. With over 1 million unique content pages, and growing, we will always be the best place for our members to post their thoughts if they want them noticed.


I understand spin, and I understand sometimes battles are best fought head on... but was this such a case?

In my mind, this is not so much a "battle" as it is a defense mechanism... "shields on full" if you will.


but to have a trick headline

The tactic of a Google Bomb is all about tricks and deception. A typical case would be to populate as many blogs and sites as you can with text links and descriptive linking to a site using a certain word. So if I am able to create hundreds of links to your site using the word "fool", sooner or later a Google search on "fool" will link to your site. Search engines consider the text of a link to describe the page being linked to.

In this case, it appears as though certain derogatory terms are being used to "Google Bomb" our site. Since we will never engage in a counter attack of any type, we're simply developing our own page that is highly likely to appear above any of these malicious pages in a Google or Yahoo search.


ATS'ers warning system is on full alert as it is...

They should be on alert all the time.
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