Originally posted by Nakash
Let's settle this issue. Jesus Christ is regarded to be the angel of the Lord (Malak YHWH) within Christian theology.
No, he isn't. In Christian theology, Christ is considered the Second Person of the Holy Trinity, one in essence with the Father and the Holy Spirit.
The reduction of Christ to the status of an "angel" is unbiblical in light of the first chapter of the Epistle to the Hebrews, and would constitute
Ano Lucis was used in the Roman empire in connection to their Gods (also Egypt). The date which starts the chronology is considered by many orthodox
Christian scholars to be the year a disagreement happened between Satan and the other hosts. Coincidence? I think not.
None of the above is correct. To begin with, the Romans never used Anno Lucis as a calendar designation. They used Ab Urbe Condita, which means "from
the founding of the city". Anno Lucis originated in Freemasonry, and refers to the beginning of the world, using a literal interpretation of Old
Testament geneology. Your claim that A.L. is "considered by many orthodox Christian scholars to be the year of disagreement between Satan and other
hosts" is patently false. I would challenge you to give me the names of only two of the "many" such "scholars".
Now let's cut the BS.
Look at some of Masonry's famous members:
* Arthur Edward Waite - occult writer and Masonic historian.
* Dr. Wynn Westcott - member of the Societas Rosicruciana in Anglia and founding member of the occult Order of the Golden Dawn. All three of the
original founders of the Golden Dawn were Freemasons: Dr. William Wynn Westcott, Dr. William Woodman, and S.L. MacGregor Mathers joined to practice
ritual magic and occultism.
The above is correct. I wish I could say the same for the rest of your list (which you simply plagiarized from another website).
* Aleister Crowley - master satanist of this century and founder of the anti-christ religion of Thelema.
Aleister Crowley was never a regular Mason, nor was he ever a satanist.
* Dr. Gerard Encaussé - (Papus) masterful author, teacher of the Tarot and leader of the occult Martinistes society.
* Dr. Theodore Reuss - head of the O.T.O., a German occult/satanic society which made Crowley its head for the British Isles.
Papus was a Mason; Reuss was briefly a regular Mason, but only held membership for about a year. He was never a satanist; instead, he was a
* George Pickingill - the master warlock (male witch) of 19th century England, leader of the "Pickingill covens."
Never heard of him. However, since Wicca was not even founded until the 1920's, I'd wager your information is not true.
* Annie Besant - leader of the occult Theosophical society and Co-Masonic hierarch. (Yes, there are female Masons!)
No, there aren't. Besant, of course, was never a Mason.
* Alice Bailey - founder of the New Age organization, Lucis (formerly Lucifer) Trust.
Not, of course, a Mason. However, her husband Foster was a Mason.
* Bishop C. W. Leadbetter - Theosophist, mentor to the failed New Age "Christ", Krishnamurti, and prelate in the occult Liberal Catholic
* Manly P. Hall - Rosicrucian adept, author, founder of the Philosophical Research Society.
Leadbetter was a Mason. So was Hall.
* Gerald B. Gardner - founder of the modern Wiccan (white Witchcraft) revival.
Gardner was a First Degree, or Entered Apprentice, Mason only. He found the biblical symbolism in Masonry, and declined to continue.
* Alex Sanders - self-styled "King of the Witches" in London and one of the most influential leaders of Wicca after Gardner.
Not a Mason.
* Helena Petrovna (HP) Blavatsky
Not a Mason.
If masonry is so Christian, and good and nice, why were these people so entrenched into masonic doctrine and honoured in every single lodge? Really, I
love the fact that most Masons want to do good deeds and so forth, but their leadership....I mean please.
To begin with, I never said Masonry was "Christian". Secondly, there's nothing wrong with any of the above-named people who were actually
More quotes from Pike:
“The conviction of all men that God is good led to a belief in a devil...”(Albert Pike, "Morals and Dogma." 19th Degree, p. 324)
“...there is no rebellious demon of Evil, or Principle of Darkness coexistent and in eternal controversy with God, or the Principle of
Light...”(Ibid. 32nd Degree, p.859)
That is correct, and also disproves your insinuation that Pike was sort of a closet Zoroastrian.
“Lucifer, the Light-bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darkness! Lucifer, the son of the morning! Is it he who
bears the Light, and with it's splendors intolerable blinds feeble, sensual or selfish Souls? Doubt it not!”(Morals and Dogma op cit.
I don't doubt it all; for Plato and Philo were also inspired.
Just grab a copy of Morals and Dogmas.
I sincerely doubt you've ever read M&D. you should though, you just might learn something.
More (not from Pike):
Manly P. Hall (Scottish rites, 33rd degree) says the following about ancient Mystery religions and their ties to Freemasonry:
“Every pagan nation had [and has) not only its state religion, but another into which the philosophic elect alone have gained entrance. Many of
these ancient cults vanished from the earth without revealing their secrets, but a few have survived the test of ages and their mysteries’ symbols
are still preserved. Much of the ritualism of Freemasonry is based on the trials to which candidates were subjected by the ancient hierophants before
the keys of wisdom were entrusted to them."
And your point is? Your "quotes", no doubt copied from religious nut job websites, are beginning to get redundant.
What kinship does God have with Satan? That's a question you should ponder.
Right now the question I'm pondering is why the hell I've wasted 15 minutes of my life responding to this nonsense.
[edit on 19-1-2006 by Masonic Light]