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posted on Nov, 16 2007 @ 01:05 PM
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Wouldn't theta be 'space-time' as we know it? Able to traverse great distances in an instant and back again.

I guess I don't have my frequencies down pat, but I seem to be switching between Alpha and delta quite frequently, but I can enter into theta when in deep deep meditation.

Beta, Alpha, Delta, Theta in order of wavelength, correct? And Zeta is before Beta I am assuming?




posted on Nov, 16 2007 @ 01:38 PM
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Pain is also a mechanism for learning, they are probably trying to process your description of reality to the forefront, so you can meet your fears head on.

Fear is a complacement act of knowing something. Fear is a by-product of knowing something outside the regularity of life.



posted on Nov, 16 2007 @ 01:45 PM
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Biggiesmalls,

The best way I could say this is; 'I am Dreaming while I am in the Awake state'.




posted on Nov, 16 2007 @ 01:49 PM
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I am dreaming my World into place.



posted on Nov, 16 2007 @ 02:26 PM
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MenGuard,

When i'm meditating I forget to breathe alot, it happens everytime I meditate and it's getting quite annoying, it causes me to come out of my meditative state. Do you have any advice on how to avoid this?

Another thing I need advice on is how to lower my alertness, when I go into meditation I turn every thing off in the house, but the house was just built 7 years ago so it is still settling and it creaks alot, and everytime I hear a creak during meditation I come out of it and my heart is pounding.

And why do I have and electric shock feeling running up and down my spine in my chest area sometimes?

[edit on 11/16/2007 by Uniceft17]



posted on Nov, 16 2007 @ 02:51 PM
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that whole, house settling noises, or old house sounds are b.s. I think.


I try to be aware of random sounds like that but I very rarely notice them, lately I've hypothesized that those sounds come into being from the act of meditation. Its like an electro-magnetic reaction to your field I think. I usually hear a sound like within 30 seconds of starting to meditate, and then the odd ones here and there, one even came from my parents tv I think so it's not the house. I even began to force them, to see if I could verify my theory.



posted on Nov, 16 2007 @ 03:09 PM
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Thanks for that clarification on time and sub-atomic particles menguard, very fascinating.

Dreaming while awake is the way to be. I'm not quite there yet, but I try and tell my mind to, but i'm just not that aware yet, but i'm deffinately making progress. I used to look at things and see flat colour, now everything looks like a dizzying ultra-fast collage of energy, everythings a very fast, very fine grain, and its not my vision, my eyes are perfect. I have a couple questions regarding dreaming..

Lately I think I've developed this ability or concentration which I didnt really utilize before, well if I did it didn't feel like I had much control, but now it feels like i do. When I wake up in the middle of a dream to look at the time or something, usually i'd wake up completely, and fall back asleep in like a few minutes or whatever. Now it seems I'm more concious of what's going on, and in my head is just "keep dreaming keep dreaming, concentrate, hold on to it".. like trying to jump right back where the dream left off, it's like I know its some place I'd rather be. But i've gained some control over holding onto that state.

As well I woke up like 3 times last night because in my dreams i told myself to. Like, it didn't make much sense to me... in my dream the first time I basically told myself... wake up, look under your bed, and I woke up and I was like huh? and I just looked at my sheets for a second thinking what the hell am I talking about, and went back asleep. It was wierd, it happened to me a couple more times but different messages I think.

Well the dream state has become more interesting, what do you thinks goin on? Is there a simple description or is something i can only figure out on my own?

And what is your take on shared dreams? If I have a dream where I'm doing something with someone, does that automatically mean a part of them was there and a part of them remembers the dream from their perspective? Because people talk about shared dreams all the time. I'm just wondering is it completely possible that we can just create people with thought and them not actually existing in that dream, or rather parts of us can be in several different dreams at once and the ones we remember experiencing are chosen or due to a limitation of awareness?

I'm just curious as to the whole process, and just wondering.. since I've had like at least 4 recent dreams now of being with the same person, if they could have experienced/remembered it.

I'm curious more so because of reactions, I find in dreams we do something usually we wouldn't do, and speak and express ourselves without any deception and argueable the harshest emotions/truth.

Well everyones input would be greatly appreciated.



posted on Nov, 16 2007 @ 03:19 PM
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Also biggie was talking about meditation,...crossing legs etc.

My body limits me to sit in the lotus position comfortably. Instead I lie on my back, I try to lean it upwards a little, and cross my legs, much more relaxing. And I have to close my fists, I find it helps to squeeze them a bit too. Thats when I'm in my full energy balancing/absorbtion mode.

I would stretch my body so I could meditate in different positions, but I am currently building body muscle for maybe another year so theres no point because you just rip the muscle tissue. You can either lift weights for fitness or size but they kinda conflict. I plan to be ultra physically flexible when I'm done, with like ultimate muscle fitness, but until then, thers not much you can do while your ripping muscles every other day.... unless there is.

I believe steve said he lifted weights too? Is this true, whats your take on it?


I was watching some guy talk about taoism and hes talking about energy recievers and attenas and based on the shape of your body you can pick up certain signals, like someones thoughts by mimicing their body language, but he said like..if you were sitting in lotus, you'd be connected to everyone in lotus.

While I think we're always all connected and it wouldnt matter how I sat..It seems like it would help, and I've always been curious as to why thats how people meditate. I could see for 1...posture, lining up the energy centers, and comfort..and 2...keeping your energy close together.

But.. does it really matter? What do you guys think?

I tried meditating last night lieing on my back but it just put me in an uncomfortable state because it just made me like half asleep / concentrated, whereas I think it wouldnt have been that way if I wasnt on my back, it was pretty late, and I know my body was tired.

Well what do you guys think? Input greatly appreciated, I find its the tiny details that I focus on and over-analyse, but I think thats the key.



posted on Nov, 16 2007 @ 03:27 PM
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Well I can tell people that I Tri-located, about a month ago, My Mind split from my body and spirit. I percieved myself in three different places at once while being aware of each angle or view from that stance. The Mind, is an entity, the body is an entity and spirit is an entity. The Universal Censor indeed. Which all three together formed a forth entity CONSIOUSNESS.

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posted on Nov, 16 2007 @ 03:32 PM
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Caveman, in my honest opinion spiritual development is derived entirely from awareness. There is alot of meaning to be extrapolated from that one word. Meditiation has always been a non-issue for me, it is simply a tool, one tool of many to access awareness. It is not a gate you must pass through.


Originally posted by menguard
Well I can tell people that I Tri-located, about a month ago, My Mind split from my body and spirit. I percieved myself in three different places at once while being aware of each angle or view from that stance.


Benchmark of high development to be sure. Menguard, how did that feel? Perceptions are still one at a time for me, although I have little limit on where to place that viewpoint.



posted on Nov, 16 2007 @ 03:33 PM
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also inflexibility in your lower-back, which is common amongst many many people. ..it takes me a days work or something to stretch that out, all i gotta do is lift a 20 pound weight with my back to stretch it out really... but still I can't touch the ground with straightened legs unless my focus for the week is stretching, or unless I do some hardcore stretching for like half an hour.

My question though is, could this be an indication of a blockage as well? Thats not good if its near the bottom of the spine!


But I dont feel like any of my body is blocked, I can feel the intensity of each energy center, and i'm always very healthy.

But I'm really curious about the lower back thing, its the reason I cant sit in lotus comfortably.. I hope its just a muscle fitness thing.



posted on Nov, 16 2007 @ 03:37 PM
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Which all three together formed a forth entity, (consciousness).

It was like three of me's working together forming a forth me that was the highlight of the situation.


[edit on 16-11-2007 by menguard]



posted on Nov, 16 2007 @ 03:56 PM
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interesting steve. I feel my awareness if very effective outside of meditation. I am always studying, studying every little thing, and your telling my meditation is not so important? I always assumed it was like a powerful key stone to the whole process.

Like maybe I'm just expecting too much, expecting a huge metamorphisis at once, or a huge bang or something, but I really feel like I'm expanding my awareness constantly and what am I trying to say exactly... its like i'm expecting to notice something but i don't, which sounds contradictory to awareness! I have all this knowledge but I think bringing it into being must be the problem. Like I can see energy clearly and constantly now and I try to open my self up, and experience the waking dream as it, but I feel like some sort of built in manufactured logic must be holding me down. Or lack of willpower. I don't think I really trust my abilities because I feel as though my abilties and awareness is minimal, so in effect it must remain minimal by me thinking so, but i'm aware of this and i conciously tell myself that i am all knowing, all percieiving and all powerful...

Still, god, theres soemthing simple I must be missing if meditation isn't like 60% or more... of expanding awareness.

Yes I'm here talking to you guys, and I love sharing with and learning from you all, I love it here, but I haven't had anywhere near the experiences you guys have had, and that very quality of awareness you all seem to have seems so beyond my awareness I believe. Perhaps it's that I am the student here, learning from you all, and that is why I am here. I realise my journey into this perspective has only begun since like a year ago.

But i'm just wondering. In this lifetime you all had to begin from "scratch"...seemingly, illusively that is.. somwhere, what was it like, how did you realise you were perceiving a new awareness.

Like from what your telling me is I should just stare at the oven here and wait for the colours to melt...and all of a sudden.. i'm everywhere at once. How do you get there from point A?...well thats not fair.. I'm point C at least!

God damn, I just want to be aware, but its tough because I feel like i'm the only one in this particular spot you know? Is it that my mind just still remains shackled to this dimension or what?

Well I'm going to meditate in a bit for sure, but I don't know man, if you say its not so important, because I do feel like I learn something, and expand my mind one way or another with it. But I dont know man.



posted on Nov, 16 2007 @ 04:01 PM
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note by the length of every message I send: I include every detail! I seem to do this more then EVERYONE it seems.. Yet I have no verbal communicative skills. The thoughts are there but it seems they all come rushing at once and writing it down makes it flow smooth... typing rather, writing is slow, and messy..typing i can quickly change things. Its like stringing together my thoughts in a neat fashion...

I need to tame my mind! meditation usually does this....


awareness man, cmon tips!, what are other tools? Theres in inner battle in my mind that I'm clearly only partially "aware" of. And neither side is winning.



posted on Nov, 16 2007 @ 04:03 PM
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Originally posted by menguard
Which all three together formed a forth entity, CONSIOUSNESS.

It was like three of me's working together forming a forth me that was the highlight of the situation.


That must have been quite the experience!

My freind told me he was looking at himself getting tattooed from above, while still looking at his wife and having a conversation with her. I bet the isolation of mind, spirit and body must be somethin else for sure!



posted on Nov, 16 2007 @ 04:24 PM
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Originally posted by CavemanDD
interesting steve. I feel my awareness if very effective outside of meditation.


That's the way to be my friend.



I always assumed it was like a powerful key stone to the whole process.


There is no keystones except what you design for yourself. You are in control, never submit to any concept perpetuated by others unless you find value in it. I like to think I am living proof that there is no need for meditation. This is not to say I never use it, but there are many tools on the same shelf.


Like maybe I'm just expecting too much, expecting a huge metamorphisis at once, or a huge bang or something


The growth always comes from yourself. You have to make the progress, rather than expect or wait for it to come. Awareness is always through yourself, because it is you.


Still, god, theres soemthing simple I must be missing if meditation isn't like 60% or more... of expanding awareness.


Think of meditation as a display of proofs to awaken your knowing. Where and how you look for them is down to you.


I haven't had anywhere near the experiences you guys have had, and that very quality of awareness you all seem to have seems so beyond my awareness I believe. Perhaps it's that I am the student here.


Some of us got started with Menguard's wakeup calls alot earlier. AAC and I have been observing since the thread started. Menguard passes down alot of things that may take alot longer to reach alone. But my realization is this, we each experience different facets of truth and perception. That is why there is not absolute consensus, only when truths are reduced to their bare constituent parts is knowledge more easily tranceivable.


But i'm just wondering. In this lifetime you all had to begin from "scratch"...seemingly, illusively that is.. somwhere, what was it like, how did you realise you were perceiving a new awareness.


Yesterday I dusted off an old dairy that I began to write in 1999. There is plenty of philosophy, and some spirit, although not tangibly realized. I do not beleive any of us came to this thread with fresh, blank minds. We have all made some individual progress. Linking memory up with our previous lives and nature of our eternal existance also provides solid foundations for new growth. We are merely transplanted trees, shaking off the confusion of our new environments.


Like from what your telling me is I should just stare at the oven here and wait for the colours to melt...


They wouldn't unless you made them. I don't ascertain great value from that type of an exercise, personally.



Is it that my mind just still remains shackled to this dimension or what?


It's only going to happen in calmness. You can't want or force. You have to become. Be willing to see beyond every layer. When you see beyond you will reunite latent parts of yourself. Don't connect the dots with mind but with spirit, there is no logic like spiritual logic. I can only advise you to interpet meanings in an energetic way, not material nor physical.



posted on Nov, 16 2007 @ 04:35 PM
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thanks a lot steve, I appreciate it, very helpful!

Whats your perception of spirit though, and I think I know what what you mean but I wanna know your thoughts about interpretting things energetically? Can you share your thoughts on those 2 things? Thanks



posted on Nov, 16 2007 @ 09:01 PM
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Originally posted by CavemanDD
thanks a lot steve, I appreciate it, very helpful!


Your welcome.


Whats your perception of spirit though


Spirit is the decider, and the creator of autonomous deciders.

Spirit is the overseer and the unseer, the lover and the hater, the quiet and the loud, and all inbetween.

Spirit is every color singularly and yet all at once. Spirit is every movement, and every inaction. Spirit is every thought, every feeling, and none at all.

Without spirit, there is no existance, and since no existance can't exist, spirit has always been. Spirit created the mechanism of reality, and defines creation within the creation, and experience within each and every shell of it.

You my friend, are one aspect of spirit, as is everyone else.


I wanna know your thoughts about interpretting things energetically?


When awareness transcends the material veil everything has an energetic meaning. You'll become conscious of this constantly. Energy is simply the free aspect of spirit.

If I said to you, "some will be left behind in 2012", this may have no physical meaning whatsoever. However, it may have an energetic meaning. One could be, those that are 'left behind' will not have attained a certain degree of development, their spirit will not be on par with our awarenesses, and so they could be in a world full of fear, misunderstanding, and isolation. All self-inflicted. Always look for energetic interpretations, because the material is only one-half of reality.



posted on Nov, 16 2007 @ 10:20 PM
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thanks man.

I have to cut myself some slack, because I know exactly what you're talking about.

I don't think its that I'm not becomming aware. I think i'm overloading.

It's too much at once. Theres a lot of strain I think.

Let's just say I see a lot of 11's man! haha



Thank you.



posted on Nov, 16 2007 @ 11:10 PM
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Originally posted by CavemanDD
Thank you.


Your welcome.



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