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posted on Apr, 19 2007 @ 04:51 PM
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Originally posted by Harper_
So do you know why I'm posting on these boards?
What I'm going to do?


Answer:To help others move forward by your own results.





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posted on Apr, 19 2007 @ 05:01 PM
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Originally posted by menguard
Answer:To help others move forward by your own results.


lol Very tactful, you have a nice guide,

Question: Do you know what they did to me?




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posted on Apr, 19 2007 @ 05:47 PM
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I was thinking yesterday about the V. Tech shooting and all of the why's.

I was thrusted to the idea of mother earth and her perrennial quest in fluctuating balance. Certain points on earth allow pressure to escape on a gragantuan scale (i.e. Volcano, Earthquake, Gueyser, etc.). Afterwards there is a peaceful, comfortable tone that follows, eeerily familair to the eye of a hurricane. The point is that the earth sometimes need to let go, so that a new day can manifest. Sure Earthquakes, Volcanos, and such cause heart ache and grief, but if the event help pull the enitre whole to a higher perspective, is it worth it? I guess it all depends on the depth of your perception.

Nevertheless, came back to the V. Tech shooting with an unique frame of reference now. Throughout history when isolated incidents happen, such as Columbine, V. Tech, etc., it helps to release the pressure on society for a higher perspective (as mengard has said). After an incident like this what happens? People come together with love, and through fellowship they heighten their awareness and perception.

I guess I am saying that if we take two steps back to take four steps forward, is it worth it? I tend to think it is.

AAC

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posted on Apr, 19 2007 @ 08:09 PM
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Under that logic, you justify WW2 and the Holocaust by citing our advances in society and tech. Where do you draw the line with what you choose to justify? As I said before, depth of perspective is irrelevant as the reality remains the same. Think about how jesuit and the brothers of love diversified from the other forces. Watch your path guys...

SteveR out.



posted on Apr, 19 2007 @ 08:29 PM
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Steve, to understand is not to condone. I would never choose that side of the design myself. But I cannot compare my spirit to another, because I have yet to have the full opportunity for discernment, other than myself. You yourself believe that spiritual abilities and developement perhaps are two different sides of the same coin, perhaps intruding entities lack an empathetic bone to go with their scientific genuis. I may end up being wrong for lack of clarity, but with what I have to work with presently, I SEE tender intrusions that are byproducts of fear, and perhaps take their own shape. You do have to crack some eggs to make an omelette. Me, I don't eat eggs.


AAC

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posted on Apr, 19 2007 @ 08:33 PM
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Originally posted by SteveR
Under that logic, you justify WW2 and the Holocaust by citing our advances in society and tech.


The depth of perception here could indicate that those actions affect different parts of the universe, that time more significantly.


AAC



posted on Apr, 19 2007 @ 08:58 PM
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Originally posted by AnAbsoluteCreation
After an incident like this what happens? People come together with love, and through fellowship they heighten their awareness and perception.

I guess I am saying that if we take two steps back to take four steps forward, is it worth it? I tend to think it is.



Originally posted by AnAbsoluteCreation
Steve, to understand is not to condone. I would never choose that side of the design myself.



I am reading your first post as a whole. You could gamble perception for clarity, perhaps. There are millions of years of unfoldment to come, any new major theory is likely to be rescinded in time.. or should I say being.
. Anyway my message stands to all.



posted on Apr, 19 2007 @ 09:08 PM
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If we analyze every step of the way, then we tend to try and make sense out of evidence to build the knowledge OF our wisdom. What is the alternative theory to such mindless atrocities in your perception of the puzzle?

Perception changes with changes in perception.

AAC



posted on Apr, 19 2007 @ 09:14 PM
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Originally posted by AnAbsoluteCreation
If we analyze every step of the way, then we tend to try and make sense out of evidence to build the knowledge OF our wisdom.


That would imply we are being impartial and scientific. Right here in this thread we are actually subscribing to these ideas - one of us is convicted in them. This is ofcourse where the Jesuits diversified. That's why I raise a flag.


Originally posted by AnAbsoluteCreation
What is the alternative theory to such mindless atrocities in your perception of the puzzle?


That they are mindless atrocities.


The result of our own potentials - that we should seek to overcome in spiritual progression - or potentials of powerful light beings that are certainly not aligned with the divine camp. You are aware of duality, this is where I'm calling it.



posted on Apr, 19 2007 @ 09:18 PM
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Originally posted by SteveR

Originally posted by AnAbsoluteCreation
If we analyze every step of the way, then we tend to try and make sense out of evidence to build the knowledge OF our wisdom.


That would imply we are being impartial and scientific. Right here in this thread we are actually subscribing to these ideas - one of us is convicted in them. This is ofcourse where the Jesuits diversified. That's why I raise a flag.


Originally posted by AnAbsoluteCreation
What is the alternative theory to such mindless atrocities in your perception of the puzzle?


That they are mindless atrocities.


The result of our own potentials - that we should seek to overcome in spiritual progression - or potentials of powerful light beings that are certainly not aligned with the divine camp. You are aware of duality, this is where I'm calling it.


I don't remember calling it anything other. Need to read back now.



posted on Apr, 19 2007 @ 09:22 PM
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Originally posted by AnAbsoluteCreation
I don't remember calling it anything other. Need to read back now.


Page 186, then skip to 198 and 199.


The path is always icey,


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posted on Apr, 19 2007 @ 09:27 PM
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Originally posted by SteveR

Originally posted by AnAbsoluteCreation
I don't remember calling it anything other. Need to read back now.


Page 186, then skip to 198.


The path is always icey,

You got me trippin.
I read both pages and don't even find relatable subject matter. I can't imagine we are on that different of a page right now.


AAC



posted on Apr, 19 2007 @ 09:36 PM
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I think it's the same issue.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com... - 199.

One can think about the perceptions there, and again relate to page 201 here.

It's not double dutch.


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posted on Apr, 19 2007 @ 11:04 PM
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I could swear you two are married, you sound like me and my girlfriend going back and forth
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Anyway...

The VT shooting does bring to light some negative energy that needed to be vented. Condoning an attack on civilians is much different than sending love and understanding towards the victims and assailant. We must come together as one to unite both polarities. Neither can be left behind. Have we so easily forgotten our downtrodden brothers that help us progress so rapidly?

"Without order nothing exists, without chaos nothing evolves" is a lyric from the group Jedi Mind Tricks. I truly believe this to be the case for the majority of times. Without substance and order we would not be able to hold focus, but without chaos there would be no change.

We would be stagnant beings capable of no original thought and definitely have no "progress."


We must be able to look at "negative" events and move on. There will always be tomorrow, but do we have enough time to take in today?

The past is gone, the future is beyond our reach. All we have is NOW, so take it my brothers and sisters!

Sorry for the muddled posts, thoughts are kind blurry recently; need to find some focus!

bs



posted on Apr, 19 2007 @ 11:12 PM
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We create our own chaos to evolve, no? In my understanding that is how one matures through experience. As humans it is a consequence of the infinite potential, thus to succeed we already have all we need.

The discussion was outside interventionism to push us along, subjectively. This discussion is now becoming a quagmire of more than one subject.



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posted on Apr, 19 2007 @ 11:18 PM
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Originally posted by SteveR
We create our own chaos to evolve, no? In my understanding that is how one matures through experience. As humans it is a consequence of the infinite potential, thus to succeed we already have all we need.

The discussion was outside interventionism to push us along, subjectively. This discussion is now becoming a quagmire of more than one subject.



I guess I misunderstood. I think sometimes we may need a kick in the butt to get us going. Evolution does happen in leaps and bounds.

An organism is confronted with a problem and either drastically changes its behavior and DNA structure, or perishes (I don't have any scientific evidence to back this up so don't ask
).

I can see your frustration with the whole free will part of life though.

How much free will do we really have? Its all relative after all. If you act in a spiritually inclined way, you have only a certain amount of outcomes for most activities. However, if you live in chaos, there are basically unlimited probabilities. We gotta find the balance
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posted on Apr, 19 2007 @ 11:24 PM
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Originally posted by biggie smalls
I guess I misunderstood. I think sometimes we may need a kick in the butt to get us going.


Humanity will always (and has) fueled its own social and spiritual change. I think that is true for the most part. Whether or not 9/11 was initiated by external entities or ourselves should make no difference as to the reality of it. We are surely losing ourselves to condone mass murder in new york as a necessary kick in the butt. Just to get us on the same page.



posted on Apr, 19 2007 @ 11:31 PM
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Originally posted by SteveR

Originally posted by biggie smalls
I guess I misunderstood. I think sometimes we may need a kick in the butt to get us going.


Humanity will always (and has) fueled its own social and spiritual change. I think that is true for the most part. Whether or not 9/11 was initiated by external entities or ourselves should make no difference as to the reality of it. We are surely losing ourselves to condone mass murder in new york as a necessary kick in the butt. Just to get us on the same page.


Yes, and no one has been held accountable for the thousands killed yet...When will enough people actually care what goes on in their world? I don't know, but I'm a little sick and tired of waiting for people to be held accountable.

Enough is enough.

It's certainly time for a change, a drastic one at that.



posted on Apr, 20 2007 @ 12:22 AM
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Okay I had to leave for a while but I have return to this thought-provoking "quagmire."


Let us assume that we are our own universes outside our earthly incarnations, some universes more vast and more compelling than others yet they all serve to serve. Each universe, built by thought, capable of what it can achieve for itself, all serve the direction of the collective creators.

When we are children we learn from our mistakes. A child doesn't truly understand to not touch a hot skillet until he feels the pain of the burn. That pain was therefore, I believe, neccesary and inevitable, if not by chance than by curiosity. So if we agree that this world effects the outside universe, would we not assume the outside universe effects us? So, if that was the case, would it not be possible that an outside universal lesson was met on a large scale that reverberated back to us which leaves us oblivious, just as another far off planet was oblivious to the burnt babies cries? So I believe perception is the obstacle that keeps us from solving this riddle. I want to stress that I was entertaining the idea seemingly more that I was willing to subscibe to it... until this conversation. Damn devil's advocating got me again!



Good talk.


AAC






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posted on Apr, 20 2007 @ 10:18 AM
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