Illuminati symbolysm in South Africa

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posted on Mar, 29 2011 @ 05:41 AM
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This is the pic you are refferring too. And yes, the illuminati symbol is very visible. Nicely spotted.





Here is a close up.




Vvv
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posted on Mar, 29 2011 @ 05:47 AM
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Originally posted by VreemdeVlieendeVoorwep
reply to post by Saurus
 
This is the pic you are refferring too. And yes, the illuminati symbol is very visible. Nicely spotted.Vvv


Piet Retief's water bottle is extant. It was recovered, after his death an is in a museum, somewhere in South Africa. It is littered with emblems of Masonic significance. Not Illuminati.



Retief's water bottle with masonic emblems may be seen at the Voortrekker Museum at Pietermaritzburg.
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posted on Mar, 29 2011 @ 05:50 AM
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I am very well aware of the difference between Masons and Illuminati, mate. I was merely putting the pictures up for the member that requested it.

Thank you for your clarification though. Much appreciated.

BTW, are you from SA?

VVV



posted on Mar, 29 2011 @ 05:55 AM
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Originally posted by VreemdeVlieendeVoorwep
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I am very well aware of the difference between Masons and Illuminati, mate. I was merely putting the pictures up for the member that requested it.

Thank you for your clarification though. Much appreciated.

BTW, are you from SA?

VVV



Yes. I am South African and in South Africa.



posted on Mar, 30 2011 @ 09:08 AM
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Originally posted by RSAJIM
The broederbond is against freemasonry in princepal, but has been infiltrated at high level due to the like of Pik Botha and De Klerk.

Mandela is a mason Mbheki is a mason Zuma recently became a mason.


Where are you getting your "facts"?

Although there have been many Freemasons in South African political history (for example, every single one of the presidents of the previous Orange Free State (1854 - 1902) were Freemasons), and while it is true that Parliament is situated on ground owned by the Freemasons, I think you're just pulling names of political leaders out of a hat and saying that they're Masons to suit some or other agenda that you might have.

Of the names you mentioned, only Pik Botha is a Mason.

Neither De Klerk, Mandela, Mbeki or Zuma are, or ever have been Masons.



posted on Mar, 30 2011 @ 11:21 AM
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Originally posted by JoshNorton
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Hail to the king. Welcome back, Steve. We missed you. How long before you turn around and start hating on Masons again. One week? Two? You still working at Alpine?


I think you have confused this poster. He is not the Parakletos. He is a brother from SA. Quite possible sent here to keep tabs on Saurus.
I think his screen name set off your stomp sensor. I don't think he has been around in a while. I do miss him a bit. At least he would argue like he had common sense. He just gets too emotional and trips the T&C wire. Maybe the electrical business in the Mile High city is doing well and he has been too busy to hang out here.



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 08:31 AM
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Uhm, with high-level I meant Grand Master or something, but I won't ever be sure hey? Regarding my search, I merely searched using my grandfather's surname. But to get accurate info I guess will have to use someone who does genealogical studies. Thanks for the info!



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 01:26 PM
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There are the Kinghts Templar of Australia. And the Knights Templar of South Africa. They've been to more places than commonly known.
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posted on Jun, 7 2011 @ 06:19 AM
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Hey odd nick i know but it it what it says...I am the granddaughter of a member of one of the most influential secret organizations in South Africa. The Afrikaner Broeder Bond. Of late i have been hearing rummer of their involvement in the Freemasons...My question? Is this true?
Just to add on Does anyone here know about the AB? I can't speak to my grandfather because he is frustratingly closed mouth about the whole business. I only know that he is/was a member for three reasons.
I found his name in a book where a reporter made public the names of more than1800 of their members.
My mother has told me about meetings held in the house when she was living at home. And last but not least i have recently come across a news letter sent to my grandfather by the organization.



posted on Jun, 7 2011 @ 08:21 AM
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Hi, I'm new here and this is my first post!
The Illuminati is everywere in our society... He he...
I took these in Capetown a couple of years ago.
I also visited Rhodes memorial on Devil peak by chance. Scary place, there were 13 lions whith their paws on top of the globe.
I always wanted to show these pictures, maybe they are just hiding in plain sight...

Peace&Love

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posted on Jun, 7 2011 @ 05:00 PM
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Awesome thread guys I enjoy reading this stuff



posted on Aug, 16 2011 @ 06:22 AM
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Originally posted by Saurus
By the way, there is something about the Freemasons Hall in Park Lane, Johannesburg, has never ceased to amaze me. One of the stained glass windows in the heart of the building was found on a battle field in 1880, and is of unknown age. This stained glass window depicts a (UFO) flying saucer. Considering that the window is at least 130 years old, I think it's pretty amazing!

I'll take a picture next time I visit there and put it up here...



As promised...

Some say it's a hat, others a UFO, but if you're standing there looking at it, and see the windows and lights on the "hat", one cannot help but think it might just be a UFO. At least, I'm convinced, along with quite a few of my brethren...



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posted on Aug, 16 2011 @ 06:50 AM
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that is interesting. Who is the bust of?
Do you know who made that Stained glass art?



posted on Aug, 16 2011 @ 06:56 AM
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Not sure who the bust is - probably one of the Past District Grand Masters. I have a look next time I go...

The origin of the stained glass window is what makes it so interesting. The window was found on a battle field in 1880, and is of unknown age (at least 130 years, from the date on which it was found!)



posted on Aug, 16 2011 @ 07:03 AM
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Originally posted by Saurus
The origin of the stained glass window is what makes it so interesting. The window was found on a battle field in 1880, and is of unknown age (at least 130 years, from the date on which it was found!)


Found on a battle field? That's ... highly unlikely??

Thanks so much for posting this! Most interesting.



posted on Aug, 16 2011 @ 07:19 AM
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I will try to get the full story regarding the circumstances of its discovery from Brethren in the know in the very near future...



posted on Nov, 12 2011 @ 09:37 AM
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In Cape Town, that 'Lodge de Banqueting Goede Hoop & Hall' is next to Parliament. That isn't marked, or anything, on the building. Also next to Parliament, on another nearby side (I was there today.), is a Slave Lodge building. This housed slaves in those colonial times. (Incidentally, Cape Town is also the only place on the African continent that brought slaves from elsewhere in Africa.) It's a museum now. It was the Cultural History Museum. It's now the Slave Lodge - changing its image to that time in history.
Anyway, upstairs displays are still of previously. One display is to do with the history of Freemasonary in South Africa. It shows e.g. symbols, with jewelry pieces, etc. A note says that Freemasonary expanded a lot in the 1850s & 60s. That was even although there was quarrelling between the Dutch and English lodges, and church opposition especially from the Dutch Reformed Church, and less from the Catholic Church. From the late 1800s it began to loose plenty of influence it had in public and state affairs. Today, Masonic insignia and ritual are very much around. The influence is limited to educational and charitable affairs. (I remember also seeing that at a festival I went to, at end of February this year.)
There's the unpublished notion 'The Origins and Growth of Freemasonry in South Africa 1712 - 1876' by A.A. Cooper.
Today in South Africa are 4 separate Masonic structures - English, Irish, Scottish and South African (Old Netherlandic). These are independent but collaborate on many different levels.
I'd say that Freemasonry is not negative, and has some advanced teachings not meant for the general public. (It's like Gnosticsm (which it's linked to, anyway) in Christianity, the Kaballah in Judaism, and Sufism in Islam.)
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posted on Dec, 18 2011 @ 03:07 AM
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Hi there

If you still don't believe it exists in South Africa - look at our very own South African singer, Danny K.

Yes, every aspect of his video "Made 2 Love U" is based on Illuminati - it HAS reached our country sad


www.youtube.com...

Above is the link for his video - how the "robotic woman's eye" is shining symbolizing the "one eye" - lucifer's eye!

Also, this video compared to Christina Aguilera's video, "Not Myself Tonight", [link below] you can see some similarities and we all know Christina is deep in Illuminati Puppetry.

www.youtube.com...

both videos show a form of "bionic" behaviour promoting mind control.
More on Christina - she promotes everything IMMORAL in this video - everyone groping her, the hand cupped in a "circle shape" around her eye again showing the "one eye" and she walks on a stage made a pyramid shape.

Although many musicians are now "puppeting" for the Illuminati now, this does not mean they are part of the bloodlines - in fact, they are just an instrument being used by the Illuminati themselves, in order to achieve what THEY want. Lyrics played backwards, videos to songs - pay attention lucifer lives in MANY songs and whatever we listen to DOES affect us, whether we like to admit it or not.



posted on Apr, 7 2012 @ 08:39 AM
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Originally posted by Aquarius1011
(I remember also seeing that at a festival I went to, at end of February this year.)

I went to that festival again this year. It's the Maynardville Community Chest Carnival in Cape Town. It has rides, food stalls, and such like. Here is a picture of its Freemasons Square. As can be seen, it's food stalls like hamburgers.



(I'm not sure how to display pictures here, like the stained glass window one on this page, otherwise I would
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posted on Apr, 7 2012 @ 10:23 AM
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Got posters of the painting at parents house both the old version and new, A lot you people don't know about the importance in south Africa.





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