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Blu-ray and hd dvd out dated already?

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posted on Jan, 8 2006 @ 10:17 AM
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A new media format coming out soon,holographic drive which can store 300gb on one disk. Can you think of have all you music or image or your computer on one. Also the company say they will have a terabyte discs out in the years.


www.inphase-technologies.com...

[edit on 8/1/2006 by kenney]




posted on Jan, 8 2006 @ 10:24 AM
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Bad link but I know the device you are talking about and right now it is bulky.
I think it won't even fit into a standard drive bay and the media itself is larger and probably more expensive the blank HD-DVD and Blu-Ray disks will be.

The Holographic disks may be great for backing up data and might replace tape drives but I don't think it'll replace HD-DVD or Blu-Ray.

I doubt anyone is going to ship out movies on those things.

It is still a neat technology though.

[edit on 8-1-2006 by AceOfBase]



posted on Jan, 8 2006 @ 10:46 AM
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Yeah. I doubt we'd need a Terabyte to hold a movie...It most likely be for documentation....or crazy PS4 (Haha, PS3 isnt even out yet!) games.


I think this has been discussed here at ATS before as well...



posted on Jan, 8 2006 @ 11:03 AM
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One of the grudges I hold with new types of disks is the surprising lack of speed when they hit the market. Can you remember the time when dvd came out how slow they were to read to and from compared to CD? Or are these new disks going to be naturally fast?



posted on Jan, 8 2006 @ 11:03 AM
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mabe some thing like google earth on a disk or 3d hd dvd film on a disk



posted on Jan, 8 2006 @ 11:43 AM
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Originally posted by FallenOne
Yeah. I doubt we'd need a Terabyte to hold a movie...It most likely be for documentation....or crazy PS4 (Haha, PS3 isnt even out yet!) games.


I think this has been discussed here at ATS before as well...


Well according to the website the technology is scalable.


In addition, the flexibility of the technology allows for the development of a wide variety of holographic storage products that range from handheld devices for consumers to storage products for the enterprise. Imagine 2GB of data on a postage stamp, 20 GB on a credit card, or 200 GB on a disk.

www.inphase-technologies.com...


So a modern day DVD could be contained on something the size of a postage stamp.



posted on Jan, 8 2006 @ 12:00 PM
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Download and Play is the future(eg On Demand). This new holo and blu-ray and HDDVD business is just a waste of resources, time and money on everybodies part.

[edit on 8-1-2006 by sardion2000]



posted on Jan, 8 2006 @ 12:38 PM
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Blue Ray and HD DVD are nearly useless too. The only thing they would be good is for games or data backup, you don't need so much space for other aplications.



posted on Jan, 8 2006 @ 12:50 PM
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Originally posted by longbow
Blue Ray and HD DVD are nearly useless too. The only thing they would be good is for games or data backup, you don't need so much space for other aplications.


They will also be needed for high defenition movies which take up a lot more space than standard DVDs.



posted on Jan, 8 2006 @ 01:40 PM
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You know I figured FMD's would have become more common place.

en.wikipedia.org...

Looks like they ran into problems with money, and then someone else scooped up the tech.



posted on Jan, 8 2006 @ 02:42 PM
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Originally posted by longbow
Blue Ray and HD DVD are nearly useless too. The only thing they would be good is for games or data backup, you don't need so much space for other aplications.


I wouldnt say that too soon. I mean Bill Gates once said that 3megs would be enough for anyone. Is it today?



posted on Jan, 8 2006 @ 02:43 PM
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I have so much data sitting on drives, CDs, DVDs, etc......
I would love to have Blu-Ray right now.

Video on demand will have a big impact in the future, but we can always use more storage space.

I dream of the day when we can put hundreds of gigs on a single disc.



posted on Jan, 8 2006 @ 04:42 PM
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Originally posted by AceOfBase
Bad link but I know the device you are talking about and right now it is bulky.
I think it won't even fit into a standard drive bay and the media itself is larger and probably more expensive the blank HD-DVD and Blu-Ray disks will be.
[edit on 8-1-2006 by AceOfBase]


well, of course its way to early to speculate on prices of all these.
But heres an prototype of the holographic drive.


Hopefully overtime they will be able to shrink it to fit in a standard 5.25 bay.



mad scientist
So a modern day DVD could be contained on something the size of a postage stamp.

no, it said 2 gb. A modern day dvd is dual layered, the average amount of space a movie takes up is around 7 gb.

BUT...Toshiba may have your answer.
Next year (07') they are releasing an itty bitty hard drive, just .85 inches tall. Its capacity will be 10 gb, which is more then enough for a movie.





SecretMuffinNinja
One of the grudges I hold with new types of disks is the surprising lack of speed when they hit the market. Can you remember the time when dvd came out how slow they were to read to and from compared to CD? Or are these new disks going to be naturally fast?

that wont be the case with this.
Its transfer rate is 20 megabytes per second! Which means if your putting 300gb of data onto one of these discs it will only take 15 minutes.


ok...now my own question.

How much space does 2 hours of High-Def video with 5.1 DD audio take up?

[edit on 8-1-2006 by Murcielago]



posted on Jan, 9 2006 @ 10:05 AM
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Originally posted by Murcielago

well, of course its way to early to speculate on prices of all these.
But heres an prototype of the holographic drive.


Hopefully overtime they will be able to shrink it to fit in a standard 5.25 bay.


So wait...it's gonna be a floppy?! I was under the impression it was a 'Disc'...


I don't even think computers are made with floppy drives anymore, haha. Mine wasn't.

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Props to Toshiba for the .85" 10 Gb hard drive, that's sweet. Maybe they'll stick them in their new SED line of TVs, like a natural built in Tivo, that would be amazing!



posted on Jan, 9 2006 @ 11:45 AM
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The disc is insdie a hard plastic case, like a mini-disc. This was the case w/ cd-roms when they first came out.



posted on Jan, 9 2006 @ 11:56 AM
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Originally posted by Murcielago



that wont be the case with this.
Its transfer rate is 20 megabytes per second! Which means if your putting 300gb of data onto one of these discs it will only take 15 minutes.


[edit on 8-1-2006 by Murcielago]



Actually the dvd can manage about 15MBps, but the equipment needed to pull of that data transfer speed would cost several 10,1000 per unit, so the most this will have will be prob be 2MBps, unless the companies decide to be VERY philanphropic


[edit on 9-1-2006 by noisy_brit_kid]



posted on Jan, 9 2006 @ 05:50 PM
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Originally posted by yadboy
The disc is insdie a hard plastic case, like a mini-disc. This was the case w/ cd-roms when they first came out.


Oh
Well, that makes more sense I suppose. Anyone know when we'll have sphere discs, like in Hitchhikers guide to the Galaxy?!



posted on Jan, 9 2006 @ 09:06 PM
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Double post


[edit on 9-1-2006 by redhat]



posted on Jan, 9 2006 @ 09:24 PM
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Originally posted by Murcielago

ok...now my own question.

How much space does 2 hours of High-Def video with 5.1 DD audio take up?


For a 2 hr movie at 25Mbs bit-rate of D-Theater movies you're looking at upwards of 20 GB. Broadcast movies are smaller at between 17 and 19 Mbs.



posted on Jan, 9 2006 @ 10:23 PM
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Originally posted by redhat

Originally posted by Murcielago

ok...now my own question.

How much space does 2 hours of High-Def video with 5.1 DD audio take up?


For a 2 hr movie at 25Mbs bit-rate of D-Theater movies you're looking at upwards of 20 GB. Broadcast movies are smaller at between 17 and 19 Mbs.


In that case, I hope the next-gen movie format is HD-DVD...and not Blu-Ray.
A dual layered HD-DVD is 30gb...Which would be more then enough for the movie and a lot of movie extras.



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