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Ed Koch-Iran already has nukes

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posted on Jan, 7 2006 @ 08:06 AM
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good news! I was just watching that former mayor of NewYork on fox news and he said Iran and some other countries in the ME already have the A-Bomb because the US now knows that pakistan sold them the materials and they have the nukes weaponized on shahab3 and IRBM missiles..thats great now the americans/zionists on that other thread can quit having your dimented fantasies about invading Iran..unless you wanna get nuked




posted on Jan, 7 2006 @ 08:21 AM
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Originally posted by jajabinks
good news! I was just watching that former mayor of NewYork on fox news and he said Iran and some other countries in the ME already have the A-Bomb because the US now knows that pakistan sold them the materials and they have the nukes weaponized on shahab3 and IRBM missiles..thats great now the americans/zionists on that other thread can quit having your dimented fantasies about invading Iran..unless you wanna get nuked



Link ? Sounds like your living in your wildest fantasy, but you only help to prove the point that "Iran" and others seek nukes, and where not going to let them, ever,period,fullstop



posted on Jan, 7 2006 @ 04:47 PM
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You have no concept of reality, Iran has a sophesticated industrial base, they manufacture their own fighter jet from the ground up, they are manufacturing IRBMs and are working on an ICBM, they manufacture helicopters..they have gotten to the point where they can manufacture just about anything..a simple gun-type nuclear device is much simpler to manufacture than any of these things and even if they didn't enrich their own uranium-we know for a fact that pakistan has sold enriched uranium to Iran and Egypt (thats what koch was saying on fox news), do you think they manufacture shahab3 missiles so they can put a lousy tnt bomb on it, doubtful..and they almost certainly have a wide spectrum of nuclear devises..including tactical nuklear weapons..so if America dares attack they can drop small nukes on American bases in Iraq, killing the Americans but sparing the Iraqi civilian population-the American Airforce would be gone and a million Iranian troops would invade, w/o the Air force americas ground army is nothing vs 10 times as many Iranians..if America then get pissed and drops the big nuke on Iran, then their goes TelAviv and New York

you have no military options vs iran





posted on Jan, 7 2006 @ 04:53 PM
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America then get pissed and drops the big nuke on Iran, then their goes TelAviv and New York


Umm... I hate to break up your fantasy here but even if they have a nuclear weapon they have no missile capable of reaching the CONUS.


you have no military options vs iran


Well considering your statement above, I doubt the level of knowledge you have about military options.

NOTE: The above is all an hypothetical topic based upon one man’s statement that Iran has nuclear weapons, therefore I will no longer take part in it.

[edit on 7-1-2006 by WestPoint23]



posted on Jan, 7 2006 @ 05:14 PM
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Ed Koch as in the former mayor of New York City Ed Koch?
No offense but I think his opinion on the Iranian nuclear menace holds about as much weight as Grampa Munster's or mine for that matter.
That is unless he has a periscope in the Iranian Embassy no one knows about....



posted on Jan, 7 2006 @ 06:36 PM
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Originally posted by jajabinks
good news! I was just watching that former mayor of NewYork on fox news and he said Iran and some other countries in the ME already have the A-Bomb because the US now knows that pakistan sold them the materials


To this story and support this claim.



posted on Jan, 7 2006 @ 06:59 PM
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The only thing I can find that Ed Koch said was that it was suspected Iran, Libya, and N Korea recieved nuclear technology from Pakistan. Nothing about Iran already having them, it seems like the authors far fetched assumption.



posted on Jan, 7 2006 @ 07:14 PM
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www.abovetopsecret.com...

"Energy is the Achilles' heel of China's economic growth. Beijing knows that only too well. So does Washington. A decision by Washington to take military action against Iran now would pull a far larger cast of actors into the fray than Iraq."


www.energybulletin.net...

Need more proof that Iran has nukes?



posted on Jan, 7 2006 @ 07:37 PM
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As far as providing a link, I just did, it was the former mayor of NY he was on "World with Neil Cavuto" and that british guy was sitting i for Cavuto, after BG asked about containing Irans nuke program Koch made the comment that because Pakistan had sold Iran and other ME nations nuke material-Iran probably already had nuke weapons..

It's common sense guys-don't you think that a country that engineers and manufactures it's own fighter planes, helicopters, has nuklear faciliities all over the place-with the capability of producing it's own nuclear fuel, mines it's own Uranium Ore from it's own territory..can manufacture, at least!, a simple "gun-type" nuclear devise..I have seen cut out drawings of the devise landed on hiroshima..this technology is clearly simpler than, for example, a jet turbine engine, once you have the enriched uranium..it's common sense that they have nuke bombs-and most likly a variety of them including tactical nuke weapons..

Don't tell me I'm so dumb, your over there on that other thread with your sick fantasies about invading Iran and destroying their country, killing 100,000 of people and subjugating that country..you *SNIP* with them and your death toll in Iraq will jump from 2,200 to 130,000 in about 2 days..



BTW I'm afraid there are other ways to deliver nuclear payloads to the USA w/o an ICBM, a boat/sub with cruise missiles will do the job just fine, blasting a hole on the coast, throwing the country into chaos, and then more nukes land thru those holes..there are many ways to deliver nuke war heads


not to mention TelAviv is only a push button and 2 minutes away from total inilation, there arrow system connot prevent disaster..

thank you your pathetic sick fantasies have now been neutrilized and replaced by my sick fantasies


Mod Edit: Profanity/Circumvention Of Censors – Please Review This Link.

[edit on 7/1/2006 by Mirthful Me]



posted on Jan, 7 2006 @ 07:54 PM
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Difference is you like the President of Iran would get a kick out of mass destruction.

The US role is to prevent mass destruction.



posted on Jan, 7 2006 @ 08:00 PM
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oh yea right, like they really prevented mass destruction when they vicously bombed and destroyed falluja, killing thousands of innocent people, what about that thread about "operation steel curtain" where they destoyed town after town completly murdering thousands more, Iraq has been systematically destroyed and now the Americans cut recontruction funds and at the same time continue to occupy and bomb the country destroying it even more..

I don't 'get-off' on seeing Americans die, I just get pissed when you neo-con Americans are sitting here talking about yet another fiasco invasion when Iraq has seen so much suffering because of Amercas disgusting thurst for revenge..your the ones that get off on killing people, not me.. the American people need to realize that the real enemy to all humanity is you


[edit on 7-1-2006 by jajabinks]



posted on Jan, 7 2006 @ 08:33 PM
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This thread is starting to get political.
Either get off the politics and back on nukes in Iran or face the possibility this thread will moved out of WOT.



posted on Jan, 7 2006 @ 09:03 PM
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Originally posted by jajabinks
Iran has a sophesticated industrial base, they manufacture their own fighter jet from the ground up, they are manufacturing IRBMs and are working on an ICBM, they manufacture helicopters..they have gotten to the point where they can manufacture just about anything..a simple gun-type nuclear device is much simpler to manufacture than any of these things and even if they didn't enrich their own uranium-we know for a fact that pakistan has sold enriched uranium to Iran and Egypt (thats what koch was saying on fox news), do you think they manufacture shahab3 missiles so they can put a lousy tnt bomb on it, doubtful..and they almost certainly have a wide spectrum of nuclear devises..including tactical nuklear weapons..so if America dares attack they can drop small nukes on American bases in Iraq, killing the Americans but sparing the Iraqi civilian population-the American Airforce would be gone and a million Iranian troops would invade, w/o the Air force americas ground army is nothing vs 10 times as many Iranians..if America then get pissed and drops the big nuke on Iran, then their goes TelAviv and New York

you have no military options vs iran




Well...well..well. congradulations, that just puts Iran about what 20~30 yrs behind the US in technology, I'll give you a big 'ole golf clap for that...




posted on Jan, 7 2006 @ 09:12 PM
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Yes and the people of Iran who suffer because of there Government throwing all there cash into Militaristic endeavors are going to be mighty pissed when all that out dated war museam crap is reduced to rubble on the first bombing raid (supposing Iran pushes us into War).


The young people of Iran have had a gut full of there War mongering Leaders and will welcome a regeim change even more than the Iraqis i beleive.

I dont want to see the obligation of Disarming Iran placed solely on the US, or being forced on Israel, this is shaping up as a UN job each day that gos buy, lets hope Iran keeps Sabre rattling and the UN might at last do something other than dodging and talking.



posted on Jan, 7 2006 @ 09:37 PM
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How would Ed Koch know what Iran has? He barely knows his own way around New York, how would he know what Iran has?

Sounds more like a faux fluff piece.



posted on Jan, 7 2006 @ 09:51 PM
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Originally posted by jajabinks
Don't tell me I'm so dumb, your over there on that other thread with your sick fantasies about invading Iran and destroying their country, killing 100,000 of people and subjugating that country..you *SNIP* with them and your death toll in Iraq will jump from 2,200 to 130,000 in about 2 days..


Who are you referring to? Who is calling you dumb, and who has fantasies of invading Iran?



posted on Jan, 7 2006 @ 10:06 PM
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Originally posted by NumberCruncher
Yes and the people of Iran who suffer because of there Government throwing all there cash into Militaristic endeavors are going to be mighty pissed when all that out dated war museam crap is reduced to rubble on the first bombing raid (supposing Iran pushes us into War)


I dont want to see the obligation of Disarming Iran placed solely on the US, or being forced on Israel, this is shaping up as a UN job each day that gos buy, lets hope Iran keeps Sabre rattling and the UN might at last do something other than dodging and talking.


Yea that is sad that they are getting 2nd or 3rd rate miltiary stuff that you could probably get from the local flea market...

No....I don't want to see the disarming of Iran leveled soley on the US of A either, but I guess if we have to we will
...



posted on Jan, 7 2006 @ 10:08 PM
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Originally posted by Jedi_Master

Originally posted by NumberCruncher
Yes and the people of Iran who suffer because of there Government throwing all there cash into Militaristic endeavors are going to be mighty pissed when all that out dated war museam crap is reduced to rubble on the first bombing raid (supposing Iran pushes us into War)


I dont want to see the obligation of Disarming Iran placed solely on the US, or being forced on Israel, this is shaping up as a UN job each day that gos buy, lets hope Iran keeps Sabre rattling and the UN might at last do something other than dodging and talking.


Yea that is sad that they are getting 2nd or 3rd rate miltiary stuff that you could probably get from the local flea market...

No....I don't want to see the disarming of Iran leveled soley on the US of A either, but I guess if we have to we will
...


Oh yeah, are you gonna be the first guy to jump into that fray or do it from your couch? Either way works.



posted on Jan, 7 2006 @ 10:16 PM
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Originally posted by IComeWithASword

Oh yeah, are you gonna be the first guy to jump into that fray or do it from your couch? Either way works.



He...he..he. that's funny, as a matter of fact I did try to join the military, but due to my colorfull past, I was denied joining...

Yes I was a criminal, I've served jail time ( not proud of it, but I did ), so put that in your pipe and smoke it... pal...

mod edit, large quote

[edit on 8-1-2006 by DontTreadOnMe]



posted on Jan, 7 2006 @ 10:20 PM
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Actually it is a possibility that Iran already have nuclear power, but they will never make it public do to obvious reasons.

On the other hand perhaps the propaganda and insinuation of Iran having nuclear power is to incite Israel into attacking them, and occurs US into getting involve.

Funny how rumors spread and take shape in the mind of a conspirator.




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