What bothers me about this thread is the obvious lack of respect for fat or obese people regardless of the reason, simply because they're fat.
All the comments about lazy this and that or try a treadmill and so on... It's just so indicative of how fat people are treated (in the USA) and I
While I certainly don't have any lack of respect for obese people, I also don't have an outpoouring of sympathy. Everyday, I walk to the
Universita' degli Studi di Firenze. I eat fresh fruit in the morning, fresh salad for lunch, and usually a fairly large dinner of pasta or chicken. I
jog on weekends, but nothing too exhausting. This diet/exercise plan is much much less rigourous than many of my classmates' plans. I am not
overweight, nor are any, save a few, of my classmates. The few people I know who are obese regularly dine at McDonalds or other fast food restaurants
and rarely walk/bike. Now, isn't this obesity a matter of their own personal choice? Obviously, there will be the rare case of someone who has
genetic or medical problem that causes metabolic problems and leads to obesity, but assuming all obese people have this problem would be the same as
assuming all murderers were abused as children; this is the case with a few, but certainly not all.
Someone mentioned earlier that the fatty foods doesn't explain it because before fast food, there were other fatty foods. Yes, this is true. But do
you honestly think someone working in a cubicle today in New York, London, Paris, Rome, etc who eats fatty foods works anywhere NEAR as hard as people
200 years ago who had to build houses from scratch with their hands, hunt for animals, butcher their own meat, etc? No, I don't think so. Also, many
of the foods today aren't bad necessarily because of the same fats. Often, there are trans fats and different types of oils and sugars which the body
can easily convert to fat instead of immediateyl metabolising them.
A large percentage of people in the US are overweight and they get treated like second class citizens. What I want to know is, why does anyone
care? You sound like you hate them. Why? Why so virulent? Sure, overweight people are risking their health, but it's their health.
You all don't talk this way about other people who risk their health by skydiving or race-car driving or smoking cigarettes or taking
anti-depressants. You don't call them lazy and treat them like they're second class citizens... What's the freaking deal? You don't stand high and
mighty over them and say that they just have no willpower to quit smoking. You encourage them. You're NICE and RESPECTFUL to them.
Yes, they are risking their health. But when you live in a nation with socialized healthcare, meaning your taxes will fluctuate based on the needs of
the nation, and suddenly a large portion is becoming obese, meaning your taxes increase, then it becomes your problem. This is why state programs to
increase fitness have started. The burden of having to care for someone who has made bad life choices is becoming ridiculous. I can't even imagine
what it must be like in America.
Also, yes, you should be nice and respectful to them, but there is no reason you should coddle them. Why tell them "Oh, there is nothing wrong,
you're just special or different" when they obviously have a medical condition? Would you do the same to someone who has cancer? No, you encourage
them to lose weight, help them make better choices if willpower is their main problem. I've invited a friend of mine to walk with me to the
University and jog with me, and it has helped her immensely. All it takes is a little effort to help them lose the weight. It does NOT mean to coddle
them and make them think being obese is "natural".
think you can say anything you like to and about fat people and it's their fault. Well, maybe it is, Maybe they want to be fat. Maybe they
have different priorities than looking like you think they should look. But that's no reason to talk like they're lower than you.
Okay, you think the reason obese people are obese is possibly because they don't want to look like "you think they should look"? I'll give you the
fact that the media portrays exceptionally thin people as attractice, and no, that's not natural. But guess what? Nature doesn't want you to be
obese, either. The fact that obese people develop diabetes, respiratory problems, joint problems, etc is nature telling them they have exceeded the
bounds of their body's ability to care for itself. Just because we don't have to live in caves and hunt for food anymore isn't an excuse to allow
yourself to live in excess. The human body is at it's healthiest when you live as if you were in a natural environment. This means fresh foods,
frequent exercise, limiting processed foods, etc.
As I mentioned earlier, none of this is out of disrespect. I feel every human being deserves the same amount of respect. However, respect is far
different from coddling, which I feel is the reason the educational system in Canada and the US have begun lagging behind. Not every child is meant to
achieve a college degree or go on to be the CEO or president of something. There's a reason a European physician can practice in the USA freely, but
an American doctor must take several board certification exams and often some extra seminars before they can practice in the EU. Although, the
American military is leaps and bounds ahead of pretty much any EU nation, so I guess it's a trade off.
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