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CIA gave Iran nuke blueprints 6 years ago

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posted on Jan, 6 2006 @ 12:23 PM
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George Bush insists that Iran must not be allowed to develop nuclear weapons. So why, six years ago, did the CIA give the Iranians blueprints to build a bomb?
www.guardian.co.uk...

The story dates back to the Clinton administration and February 2000, when one frightened Russian scientist walked Vienna's winter streets. The Russian had good reason to be afraid. He was walking around Vienna with blueprints for a nuclear bomb.

To be precise, he was carrying technical designs for a TBA 480 high-voltage block, otherwise known as a "firing set", for a Russian-designed nuclear weapon. He held in his hands the knowledge needed to create a perfect implosion that could trigger a nuclear chain reaction inside a small spherical core. It was one of the greatest engineering secrets in the world, providing the solution to one of a handful of problems that separated nuclear powers such as the United States and Russia from rogue countries such as Iran that were desperate to join the nuclear club but had so far fallen short.

The Russian, who had defected to the US years earlier, still couldn't believe the orders he had received from CIA headquarters. The CIA had given him the nuclear blueprints and then sent him to Vienna to sell them - or simply give them - to the Iranian representatives to the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA). With the Russian doing its bidding, the CIA appeared to be about to help Iran leapfrog one of the last remaining engineering hurdles blocking its path to a nuclear weapon. The dangerous irony was not lost on the Russian - the IAEA was an international organisation created to restrict the spread of nuclear technology.

Quite intresting ... the blueprints were flawed though, however Iran already had some blueprints for nukes that they had received from a Pakistani scientist, so they could've figured out the flaws in the TBA 480 blueprints quite quickly and thus develop much better nukes.

*PSA use "ex" instead of "quote" for external sources.*

[edit on 6-1-2006 by dbates]




posted on Jan, 6 2006 @ 12:34 PM
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How did they think that this would be benificial, sometimes people just baffle me. To be honest it doesnt realy suprise me that they were given blueprints by the CIA, and now there having to clean up there own mess.

The Guardian is a good souce, so this leans me to belive that this is true.



posted on Jan, 6 2006 @ 12:45 PM
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So far I know those blueprints were significantly flawed so Iran would be not able to produce the nuke. Whole operation was just a try to set Iran nuke programm on false track. So much the (supposed)story. But I don't understand why do you think it was exactly so? Just because some book and Guardian say so? Does Guardian have nuke expert better than CIA? Does anybody except CIA know what exactly was the operation about? It's just speculation, nothing else, so don't consider it a fact.



posted on Jan, 6 2006 @ 12:51 PM
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Originally posted by longbow
So far I know those blueprints were significantly flawed so Iran would be not able to produce the nuke. Whole operation was just a try to set Iran nuke programm on false track. So much the (supposed)story. But I don't understand why do you think it was exactly so? Just because some book and Guardian say so? Does Guardian have nuke expert better than CIA? Does anybody except CIA know what exactly was the operation about? It's just speculation, nothing else, so don't consider it a fact.


Fair point, it just wouldn't supprise me if it was true.



posted on Jan, 6 2006 @ 12:52 PM
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There was another thread on here somewhere about the plans that were given to Iran, which were in fact, intentionally flawed. But the Iranians discovered this somehow. Maybe Russian nuke scientists told them after examining the plans. But yes, the plans given were flawed for the effect of sending their nuke program off course.



posted on Jan, 6 2006 @ 02:58 PM
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gave them so they can invade them!



posted on Jan, 6 2006 @ 04:53 PM
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Exactly, serlex!

This is a basic technique. It's almost like the Problem, Reaction, Solution, idea.



posted on Jan, 6 2006 @ 06:43 PM
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Nice, I posted the exact same article on Current Events. What a coincidence. I am glad to see im not the only one who picked up on this.

You are right. It is problem, reaction, solution. They arm the ''enemy'', claim the ''enemy'' is a threat, and then take the ''enemy'' out. Of course, in reality, they are not enemies at all. They are working in unision, thats why Iran is now doing and saying things that help the Bush Administration, and those that control them. i.e. ''Israel should be wiped off the map''. What a terrible thought, its hard to believe someone would come out and say that to the world, unless there was an alternate motive than what we are told...



[edit on 6-1-2006 by LetKnowledgeDrop]



posted on Jan, 6 2006 @ 06:52 PM
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This is possable and actualy makes sence. I would not put it past the current bunch of cowboys we have policing the world.



posted on Jan, 6 2006 @ 06:56 PM
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the cowboys are sneaky. Pretty good plan actually.
Give them plans to start making nukes, and behind close doors say, SURE GO AHEAD AND MAKE THEM.
then in pulbic say they cant.



posted on Jan, 7 2006 @ 02:21 AM
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It just shows how desperate CIA is to find out more about iranian nuclear program, and what we hear from likes of Porter Goss (CIA director) is that iran has nukes.



RESPECT



posted on Jan, 7 2006 @ 04:30 AM
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Originally posted by LetKnowledgeDrop
You are right. It is problem, reaction, solution. They arm the ''enemy'', claim the ''enemy'' is a threat, and then take the ''enemy'' out. Of course, in reality, they are not enemies at all. They are working in unision, thats why Iran is now doing and saying things that help the Bush Administration, and those that control them. i.e. ''Israel should be wiped off the map''. What a terrible thought, its hard to believe someone would come out and say that to the world, unless there was an alternate motive than what we are told...


So you basically say Iranian regime commits suicide just to help Bush? That's laughable don't you think?



posted on Jan, 7 2006 @ 04:46 AM
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Hey - that's Pretty Smart!

- Make Money while giving them the Weapons of Mass Destruction (Plans)

- Make Money while Removing the Evil Regime & Destroying the Infrastructure of a Country

- Make Money while Rebuilding that Destroyed Infrastructure

Geez - that is ENDLESS Business, man!




posted on Jan, 7 2006 @ 09:44 AM
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Originally posted by LetKnowledgeDrop
Nice, I posted the exact same article on Current Events. What a coincidence. I am glad to see im not the only one who picked up on this.

You are right. It is problem, reaction, solution. They arm the ''enemy'', claim the ''enemy'' is a threat, and then take the ''enemy'' out. Of course, in reality, they are not enemies at all. They are working in unision, thats why Iran is now doing and saying things that help the Bush Administration, and those that control them. i.e. ''Israel should be wiped off the map''. What a terrible thought, its hard to believe someone would come out and say that to the world, unless there was an alternate motive than what we are told...

I think that might be plausible, same thing with Iraq (US & UK sold Iraq chemical/biological weapons iirc) and North Korea.


Incase you're wondering about NK:

US providing N. Korea with nuke info
US grants N Korea nuclear funds
Clinton Gave N. Korea 100-Nuke-Per-Year Capacity
US is putting North Korea's finger on the nuclear trigger
NK Missile Warhead Found in Alaska



posted on Jan, 7 2006 @ 11:59 AM
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Okay, so, as I've gathered it thus far. The theory is this:

The US paid off (or convinced) the leader of Iran to say something as poetically villanous as "Israel Needs to be wiped off the face of the earth". This was said to set the stage. Good versus evil... the only thing the average populous understands.

I understand the US motives. They are obvious.

I understand such a bold statement wouldnt have been said by Iran by mere choice to say it.

So what was Iran's motives to accept the bribe to say such a thing? Is the leader of Iran promised some form of compensation once the battle is over? If so, I doubt he'd get it. So what the hell has the US promised Iran to get its leaders to read such a script?


This whole thing is starting to make me wonder if half the battles over there actually take place... or if theyre actually fighting the enemy they claim to be fighting.

Side note. It would be quite the cover-up if the whole battle in the middle east was actually a civil uprising. And the US was promised oil to assist them in silencing their public. I mean, it wouldnt be hard to convince even the reporters that the people they are fighting are actually insurgents... the Iraqi army after all, didnt use their arsenal against the US when they arrived.

Obviously not the case, but it would make for a cool book.



posted on Jan, 7 2006 @ 12:17 PM
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Originally posted by picklewalsh
This is possable and actualy makes sence. I would not put it past the current bunch of cowboys we have policing the world.


Hey pickle you need to re-read when this happened, not the current cowboys, but the hillbilly redneck from Arkansas that was soiling up the Whitehouse at the time.

- One Man Short



posted on Nov, 3 2008 @ 01:07 PM
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Funding towards iran's nuclear research from the gov-discovered by the gov.

energycommerce.house.gov...



posted on Nov, 9 2008 @ 12:53 AM
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Originally posted by SwearBear



George Bush insists that Iran must not be allowed to develop nuclear weapons. So why, six years ago, did the CIA give the Iranians blueprints to build a bomb?
www.guardian.co.uk...

The story dates back to the Clinton administration and February 2000, when one frightened Russian scientist walked Vienna's winter streets. The Russian had good reason to be afraid. He was walking around Vienna with blueprints for a nuclear bomb.

To be precise, he was carrying technical designs for a TBA 480 high-voltage block, otherwise known as a "firing set", for a Russian-designed nuclear weapon. He held in his hands the knowledge needed to create a perfect implosion that could trigger a nuclear chain reaction inside a small spherical core. It was one of the greatest engineering secrets in the world, providing the solution to one of a handful of problems that separated nuclear powers such as the United States and Russia from rogue countries such as Iran that were desperate to join the nuclear club but had so far fallen short.

The Russian, who had defected to the US years earlier, still couldn't believe the orders he had received from CIA headquarters. The CIA had given him the nuclear blueprints and then sent him to Vienna to sell them - or simply give them - to the Iranian representatives to the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA). With the Russian doing its bidding, the CIA appeared to be about to help Iran leapfrog one of the last remaining engineering hurdles blocking its path to a nuclear weapon. The dangerous irony was not lost on the Russian - the IAEA was an international organisation created to restrict the spread of nuclear technology.

Quite intresting ... the blueprints were flawed though, however Iran already had some blueprints for nukes that they had received from a Pakistani scientist, so they could've figured out the flaws in the TBA 480 blueprints quite quickly and thus develop much better nukes.

*PSA use "ex" instead of "quote" for external sources.*

[edit on 6-1-2006 by dbates]


The blueprints on nukes can be looked up on the internet. ONLY way to control nukes is to control URANIUM enrichment (at this time). Thats the issue.



posted on Nov, 9 2008 @ 12:57 AM
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Doesnt surprise me..The CIA hooked up Afghanistan to fight the russians and they still use some of those weapons against us and the coalition forces, Mainly stingers and other small arms. Im sure there is some sort of method of madness to their plan.



posted on Nov, 10 2008 @ 04:42 PM
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This is interesting since I was just reading about how the US is funding russian scientists that are working on the Iran nuclear program.

See this link for more.

If true, it all fits into the NWO agenda and Pike´s 3 world wars to unite the globe.



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