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WAR: Federal Court Judge Rules Against Pentagon In Guantanemo Name Suppression Case

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posted on Jan, 5 2006 @ 04:46 AM
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Federal Court Judge Jed Rakoff has ruled against the USA Defence Department in a case over the suppressing the names of Gunatanemo Bay terror detainees. Associated Press sued the Pentagon asking for the names of detainees and seeking the transcripts of the USA military hearings in the so called "Terror Trials". The Pentagon put forward the argument that releasing the names would put the detainees at peril should they be released back to their own countries. 317 detainees were polled on court orders to see if they objected to their names being released publicly with 63 stating they wanted their names released. 17 of the detainees said they ddin't want their names released and the rest of the detainees polled declined to answer.
 



www.abc.net.au
"The court was right to reject the Government's pose as guardian of privacy rights when what it's really guarding is its own secrecy."

"The only privacy interest it [the Defence Department] purports to assert ... is that of the defendants, the judge wrote.

"But of the 317 detainees in issue, only 17 have asserted a desire to have their identifying information kept confidential," the judge wrote.

The US wants to develop a high-security prison in Afghanistan to hold terrorism suspects, including some transferred from Guantanamo Bay in Cuba, Britain's Financial Times reports.

The newspaper says the US Government has chosen the site of a former Soviet-era prison near the capital, Kabul, to house the prisoners.

The United States has faced criticism at home and abroad for treatment of prisoners at Guantanamo and for holding prisoners indefinitely.

Only nine, including Australian David Hicks, of about 500 prisoners being held at the base have been charged and the US has been holding prisoners there since January 2002.



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This is a step in the course of justice for the detainees. They are human, with names and families and deserve the basic rights afforded to the rest of mankind. No torture, a fair trial and the right for their families to know that they are safe and well until they undergo their fair trials.

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posted on Jan, 5 2006 @ 05:24 AM
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Originally posted by Mayet
This is a step in the course of justice for the detainees. They are human, with names and families and deserve the basic rights afforded to the rest of mankind. No torture, a fair trial and the right for their families to know that they are safe and well until they undergo their fair trials.

Is there not a war on terrorism taking place?
And if there is a war going on, then most, if not all of them, deserve nothing but humane treatment.
Where were you and others when Vietnam and other conflicts took place? Were you and others calling for the "fair trails" of US and Vietnamese POWS and detainees like you are now for those detained at Gitmo?
Heads-up, there are no fair trials in war till after the war was determined over. If they deserve any type trials at all, then it will be by military tribunal(s).




seekerof

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posted on Jan, 5 2006 @ 05:33 AM
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Originally posted by Seekerof
Heads-up, there are no fair trials in war till after the war was determined over. If they deserve any type trials at all, then it will be by military tribunal(s).

The Problem here is, that the Majority of these Detainees are yet again, Suspected Enemy Combatants - yet they are still detained for 2 years without any Reason whatsoever.

But if there is a war that AMERICA is involved - all the Laws and Conventions go out the Window, right?

How can you then Pretend to Uphold the International Law and Remove Evil Dictatorship Regimes of the Axis of Evil, when you yourself are breaking the Same Law Book, thet they are?

That makes you the Same as them if you did not Notice.

But I see you have NO Problem with that at all.

As long as Democracy Prevails, right - no matter the Cost?



posted on Jan, 5 2006 @ 05:37 AM
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Wrong.
The majority of those being detained at Gitmo are already classified as enemy combatants, hence if at war, they are entitled to nothing but humane treatment, not trials. Those mentioned in the above article, are those detainees that are being considered for removal from Gitmo to be sent back to their host nations to either be released or held by their own countries.




seekerof



posted on Jan, 5 2006 @ 06:02 AM
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Originally posted by Seekerof
Wrong.

OK, I see now and I have seen before that you have NO problem with US conducting Torture in Secret Detention Camps at all - you actually support it. You know, it does not matter for what Noble Reason you do condone to Torture, I am sure that the North Vietnamese had some pretty good reasons that they Tortured American POW's to get some Key Informaton about the US Forces Plans - and I am sure that China has some Good Reasons why they condone to Torture.

In that View you are exactly the Same as the Enemies you Were fighting and you are Fighting.



posted on Jan, 5 2006 @ 10:49 AM
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I am glad that something is done for these people.

By the way the definition of Enemy combatant as interpreted by the US war on terror can be interpreted in any way to accommodate what the administration wants.

Its not guide lines for it and truly is goes against Geneva convention laws.

US has made it's own guide lines to suit it's needs.

If they want to charge all that people and kill them why they have not done so?

What is the used to keep the people indefinitely?

Now they want to send them to Afghanistan?

Funny I wonder who long they will last before braking free.

Charge them, kill them do whatever necessary but do something.



posted on Jan, 5 2006 @ 10:54 AM
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Souljah, humane treatment, which SeekerOf has repeated said the detainees deserve, is now to torture? I don't see how SeekerOf classifying enemy combatants as POWs who don't get a trial until after the war, and that all they deserve is humane treatment, means he's in favor of torturing them.



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