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Coverup and Misinformation In Mining Explosion Tragedy?

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posted on Jan, 6 2006 @ 07:22 PM
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Id like to ask what exactly caused that explosion? That is an important subject that hasnt really been discussed. What caused the explosion? I was following the story throughout the night, and witnesses live the jubilation, then the horror. It is definatly an awful situation, and my heart goes out to those families, who are the real victims in all this. I have a hunch that there may be a conspiracy involved, but I havent seen any proof to support this. I did see Governor Manchien tell reporters he did not tell the families that they found the 12 alive. I also saw interviews with family members that said that yes, Governor Manchien had indeed told them that they were alive, and were being transported to the church.

Suddenly, 3 hours later, a women comes up to Anderson Cooper and says that they only found one survivor, and that in fact 12 were dead. Then, Governor Manchien makes the announcement: 12 dead, 1 alive. The families erupted with anger and grief, quite understandably, and how conveniant, the SWAT was on scene to help police things. How conveniant.

It is also known that the officials knew that the initial reports were false, 20 minutes after they were given.Why did they wait 3 hours to tell the families? And, biggest of all, what caused that explosion? Something is very wrong here.




posted on Jan, 6 2006 @ 07:27 PM
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Lots of unanswered questions but I will add this:

Having trained for and participated in mock mass casulty incidents, you do have to understand that confusion reigns surpreme even with tons of training.

Communications are almost always spotty and then you factor in how deep the rescue teams were than can only magnify that problem. If they were intending to kill any or all of those miners why did they leave one alive?

Also Carbon Monoxide poisioning does not leave any physical trauma rather have a cherry red skin apearance



posted on Jan, 6 2006 @ 07:40 PM
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Good point. Seems to be just a real unfortunate series of events to a freak accident. But I would like to see alot of these questions answered.

[edit on 6-1-2006 by LetKnowledgeDrop]



posted on Jan, 7 2006 @ 02:56 AM
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The media is the media and nothing about their part changes my opinion of them. They are wrong sometimes and it's a cutthroat business - I like what they do, but I understand their FOS occaisionally.

This story reminds me of the Russian Sub that sank a few years ago & they didn't ask for help from nations that had the means to rescue the men.

I'm curious how long the men lived after the explosion & whether or not they could have been rescued before they expired.

We have robots on the surface of Mars surely we can create robots to do the labor that these men were doing. Even if we are not quite ready for a 100% robotic work force we do have detection & breathing equipment that could have been there and sustained their lives for a long enough period of time for a rescue

The mine was open for many years and they had enough time to build up storage of air at endpoints of the mine. This equipment is not high tech & has been around many years. It's not as if they would have to carry it like firemen do. It makes me sick that our people are still being sacraficed for a little more profit.



posted on Jan, 8 2006 @ 06:59 AM
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I believe that these miners should have had equipment to warn them of dangerous gases and carbon monoxide build up in the mines. Did they even have such equipment and if not, why? Did they use this equipment if they did have it? Why don't they have better equipment to help sustain life within these mines in the event that they should end up confined for days in accidents such as this? Would it cut too much into the companies profit margins?

Furthermore, why did it take the the mining officials three hours to finally tell these poor families that there was in fact only one survivor? That is just insult to injury! If something isn't done about this particular case, there will be more like it to follow. An example needs to be made with this case or more lives will be lost.

PassionWink



posted on Jan, 10 2006 @ 12:12 PM
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Originally posted by passionwink
I believe that these miners should have had equipment to warn them of dangerous gases and carbon monoxide build up in the mines. Did they even have such equipment and if not, why?

Of course they had such equipment, the mine wouldnt' be able to operate without that. Mining is an incredibly dangerous operation and occupation. No matter how greedy and evil the owners of the mine are or aren't, they're still going to not want it to explode, collapse, shut down, and have to hire more people, because of that.

As long as there are mines, there will be mine explosions and the death of miners.

I'm not saying that this company is blameless, but clearly there was safety equipment.



posted on Jan, 10 2006 @ 12:22 PM
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It's sad how some people can take a tragedy such as this and twist the fact's that are available to them into such a way to argue their evil concpiracy point. Sad indeed.



posted on Jan, 10 2006 @ 03:44 PM
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What I dont understand is how the mine shaft was 2 miles long and it wasnt very deep, just a very shallow and long mine.

I can guarantee you they do not own all that land 2 miles around.

Which maybe made the whole thing illegal?

Can I really dig underneath my neighbor and rob his resource from under him?



posted on Jan, 10 2006 @ 04:17 PM
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Originally posted by ImplementOfWar
What I dont understand is how the mine shaft was 2 miles long and it wasnt very deep, just a very shallow and long mine.

I can guarantee you they do not own all that land 2 miles around.

Which maybe made the whole thing illegal?

Can I really dig underneath my neighbor and rob his resource from under him?


It is called owning the mineral rights. You may own your property but odds are that you don't own the mineral rights to it. Someone or some company who does own the mineral rights can actually demand that you leave your property so that they can mine it. They have to pay you for your troubles and return the land to its original condition, but you have to go.



posted on Jan, 10 2006 @ 05:54 PM
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Originally posted by JIMC5499

Originally posted by ImplementOfWar
What I dont understand is how the mine shaft was 2 miles long and it wasnt very deep, just a very shallow and long mine.

I can guarantee you they do not own all that land 2 miles around.

Which maybe made the whole thing illegal?

Can I really dig underneath my neighbor and rob his resource from under him?


It is called owning the mineral rights. You may own your property but odds are that you don't own the mineral rights to it. Someone or some company who does own the mineral rights can actually demand that you leave your property so that they can mine it. They have to pay you for your troubles and return the land to its original condition, but you have to go.


WTF, lol. Another reason to leave the country. What screwed up logic. How can you claim mineral rights on property you do not own? How can you have seperate mineral and property ownership rights?


[edit on 10-1-2006 by ImplementOfWar]



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