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New World Order give them a chance... they are not so bad

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posted on Jan, 4 2006 @ 07:11 AM
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www.infowars.com...

Look at this disgusting site. I understand about some fears, but I think this site is "sensationalizing" the whole thing just to make money. Maybe these kind of people are the enemy?

Besides, is tie NWO so bad??? Think with an open mind for a minute. REALLY Look at the "greed" of commercial Xmas? people running to buy more usless junk when thousands are starving in other countries.
And why let "usless criminals" live in apparant luxury in prisons for years battling frivolas lawsuits as thousands of law abiding citizens are awaiting medical transplants, why not place un-repentant repeat felons into a "medical coma" and harvest body parts for those citizens that do obey humanities basic laws? Why do law abiding citizens have to fear living?

Religon, Technology and Money are the greatest conspiracies there are. If all were done away with then maybe real peace will prevail. Maybe "sensonalists" are really afraid of giving up the comfortable world of greed.

Our family is not afraid of a new world order, or any chips... what is wrong with tracking murderers, rapests, theves? If money or the equilivent of money were dispersed equally in the world among all classes of people, then we should all be able to live a basic existance with our needs met and not have to fear crime as the criminals will have been done away with.

Technology is spreading knowledge faster and faster. The more technology begats the more greed. give me a life in the early 1900's or late 1800's anyday. The more technology replaces work with lesure time, the more crime, greed and less concern for fellow humans we all have.

So I say, Give the new World Order a chance.
Here is the feeling that I have that will begin civil unrest
"The US Constitution will be absorbed into the "New World Order Constitution" This will be the beginning of the end for some people.
Besides some of us will escape all of the chaos by the "overlapping parallel universes" that exist in our world.
What I mean is there are "parallel universes" but they are everywhere at the same time. So some people will die in misery in the world war 3 chaos while others of us can stand by and watch the events taking place in our worlds of order and universal law. Do not be afraid, just live minute by minute as the past and future to not even exist.
Newageuponus




posted on Jan, 4 2006 @ 07:31 AM
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Originally posted by newageuponus2
If money or the equilivent of money were dispersed equally in the world among all classes of people, then we should all be able to live a basic existance with our needs met and not have to fear crime as the criminals will have been done away with.


Why do you think the NWO would do this? Equality? Sharring? These are not NWO concepts.

A lot of what you are saying sounds a lot like one of the leaders of WW2, which one was that again? I can’t recall at the moment…


Tuk

posted on Jan, 4 2006 @ 07:35 AM
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I agree atleast partially, one world governement would have many benefits. No wars, less poverty, less starvation etc.

As long as it's not going to be police run dictatorship with few very rich people running it and tracking everyone everytime, it's fine by me.

But I very much doubt it would work without being police state.
Peoples have way too many differences for unified world to work..



posted on Jan, 4 2006 @ 07:48 AM
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I suppose you haven't read 1984?

Look at Nazi Germany. People gave Hitler a chance and look what happened. Hitler was going to overtake the world with the Aryan race and get rid of everyone else. Sure, there wouldn't be war, less poverty, and generally "better". But in that case the end doesn't justify the means.
For some reason, I support the NWO evn though it's evil. (Don't ask why.)






The one above is a real ad that can be seen around London.



posted on Jan, 4 2006 @ 09:25 AM
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Race has nothing to do with this, and neither do I think I am reacting like "Hitler"

1) What is the difficulty that you have with doing away with money? are you rich? are you "comfortable" in your lifestyle or do you want a bigger house? bigger car, better clothes? What is you had to live in a cardboard shack and eat garbage if you could find it for food? How would you feel then about distributing the world's wealth? Comments? anyone out there?

2) What is wrong with helping valuable citizens that are law abiding and terminating the usless criminals IF they can not be mainstreamed into society and become law abiding citizens? Note: I said nothing about killing innocent, or handicapped people

3) Notice Alex Jones www.infowars.com... is selling no less than hundreds of books that will make him money! Is he giving his money to the poor? Greed is sooo bad.

4) Really, deleting a disfunctional and unproductive being is not evil if its for the greater good of society. This should be used after a last resort and only after a world council govt decides that a person is not fit or capable for "reprogrammming" into the new world order. Every chance possible should be made to save a life. But if there are "good souls" needing a human body part, why not "delete" the bad individual for the greater good?

5) Even "Jesus" (I am not Christian) said in the last days "good will be bad and evil will be called good. So who is right here? How fast would crime stop if criminals, thieves, looters, and thugs knew they were watched on camera or microchipped and their every action was being recorded? I bleive that "sin" is in everyone's DNA and can be "controlled" by microchipping people that can't help them selves. Lets here it for Microchipping the thugs. People that are microchipped and are good for society should be given many more rights and privleges than uncontrollable usless criminals, not more "material goods"

6) Technology is spreading knowledge faster and faster. The more technology begats the more greed. give me a life in the early 1900's or late 1800's anyday. The more technology replaces work with lesure time,the fatter humans become, the more crime, greed and less concern for fellow humans we all have. Humans were "created" and designed (programmed) to work for survival, when work is removed and replaced with pleasure, its too much for most underdeveloped human beings that do not understand "one world order"

7) Finally, "Death" will be realized to be "deleting and reasigning" of ones DNA program to another life form. Death is not the end, its just the "deleting of your computer databanks" WHAT? did you think you are REAL? We are no more "REAL" than the SIMS program. We are all just an advanced "holographic" universal video game, but we do have potential to become higher beings in future life forms.

i am one with the universe.......newageuponus




posted on Jan, 4 2006 @ 09:33 AM
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Okay, fancy this "scenario".

You live in a nice part of wherever you live, there is rarely a crime and it's a nice close knit community. Suddenly, CCTV starts croping up everywhere. Firstly it's in areas of the public where there would be alot of people. Such as a train station. Fair enough, considering the bombings. But then, cameras appear in the rough areas, and the your neighborhood. Why do we need so much surveillance? The amount of security is becoming rather suspicious don't you think?

I'm not talking about race, but Hitler slowly came into power, it didn't exactly happen over night that he turned Germany into the totalitarian state that it was by 1938.



posted on Jan, 4 2006 @ 09:39 AM
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What are you so afraid of? DO YOU have something to be afraid of? So what if criminals and "good" members of society are monotored. If you have nothing to hide and you obey universal laws then everything should be OK. Unless.... You "fear" change and are ready to resist the NWO. Why make it hard on yourself. Just join the better world. "Times are a changing!"

iamone with the universe



posted on Jan, 4 2006 @ 10:47 AM
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I'm not afraid or against the NWO. I'm just speaking up for the majority of people here on ATS who are.



posted on Jan, 4 2006 @ 10:55 AM
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the only problem that i have with NWO is that they want to get rid of 80% of the worlds population.

...nonono that actually bothers me a lot when i think about it....bad karma all the way



posted on Jan, 4 2006 @ 10:56 AM
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What, is today when new people refuse to look to see if their concept is already on the board?
Please.
There are even threads that will give you information so that you will understand the dangers of the NWO.
This board is prettty big; you'll be surprised what you'll learn if you take a few minutes to read!



posted on Jan, 4 2006 @ 11:00 AM
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Originally posted by Thomas Crowne
What, is today when new people refuse to look to see if their concept is already on the board?
Please.
There are even threads that will give you information so that you will understand the dangers of the NWO.
This board is prettty big; you'll be surprised what you'll learn if you take a few minutes to read!


i have to agree


me and Thomas Crowne have index threads that will point out the dangers of the NWO. Thomas Crowne has even made detailed lists of members of NWO controlled groups. Me and him have been studying the NWO for years and i think neither of us can say its a good thing.



posted on Jan, 4 2006 @ 12:39 PM
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Originally posted by newageuponus2
why not place un-repentant repeat felons into a "medical coma" and harvest body parts for those citizens that do obey humanities basic laws?

That's sick. They are still humans, not animals.



Religon, Technology and Money are the greatest conspiracies there are.

No they aren't. Well, a organized religion that believes only in one truth and does not allow other people to believe in anything else, is not right either. That goes for you humanists aswell.
BTW you are contradicting yourself. You say technology is bad, but then you say people should be RFID chipped.



Our family is not afraid of a new world order, or any chips... what is wrong with tracking murderers, rapests, theves?

Are you and your family members murderers, rapists and theives?



If money or the equilivent of money were dispersed equally in the world among all classes of people, then we should all be able to live a basic existance with our needs met and not have to fear crime as the criminals will have been done away with.

But that wouldn't be fair. If someone say works harder than another, then that person should get what they deserve, more money.
Besides, this credit system that you NWOists are so fond of, would then be controlled by a select few, they would have huge amounts of power, absolute power.
Power tends to corrupt, absolute power corrupts absolutely.



Technology is spreading knowledge faster and faster.

Why is that so bad? You think ignorance is bliss?



The more technology begats the more greed.

Wrong.



So some people will die in misery in the world war 3 chaos while others of us can stand by and watch the events taking place in our worlds of order and universal law.

How nice of you. Are those "worlds of order and universal law" bunkers? I hope you stay there.



What is the difficulty that you have with doing away with money?

Doing away with cash money and replacing it with a credit system would only give absolute power to those who control the credit system, ie. the government.
This is a bad thing.



What is wrong with helping valuable citizens that are law abiding and terminating the usless criminals IF they can not be mainstreamed into society and become law abiding citizens?

Then it just comes down to defining "valuable citizen" and "useless criminal"

Is valuable citizen = One who is obedient to the state and does not question the state. Non-religious, disapproves of guns etc.
Is useless criminal = One who is disobedient to the state and questions the state. Possibly also a religious person, a person who approves of guns etc.

Basicly a "useless criminal" could be whoever doesn't agree with the state.



Notice Alex Jones www.infowars.com... is selling no less than hundreds of books that will make him money! Is he giving his money to the poor?

Alex Jones, like all of us in the world, needs money to pay his bills, get food on the table, clothes on his back, keep his websites up and running etc.

Does he have a obligation to give money to the poor? No.
Is he still doing it? I don't know, maybe.



Really, deleting a disfunctional and unproductive being is not evil if its for the greater good of society.

So you support the "deletion" of handicapped people, retarded people, people who are not that smart, lazy people, bums etc. ?
This is what the Nazis did. I think it's quite evil.



But if there are "good souls" needing a human body part, why not "delete" the bad individual for the greater good?

Who are you, or the "world council" to decide who is good and who is bad? You are not God or "higher above" any other humans.



How fast would crime stop if criminals, thieves, looters, and thugs knew they were watched on camera or microchipped and their every action was being recorded?

Who will watch the watchers?



I bleive that "sin" is in everyone's DNA and can be "controlled" by microchipping people that can't help them selves.

I don't believe that.



Lets here it for Microchipping the thugs. People that are microchipped and are good for society should be given many more rights and privleges than uncontrollable usless criminals, not more "material goods"

See, you are talking like the Nazis, like Hitler, Himmler, Goering etc.
In their opinion only aryans were good for society and should be given many more rights and privledges than useless inferior races.



but we do have potential to become higher beings in future life forms.

Thinking you can become God is just crazy. So I would have to disagree with you there.


Seriously, who do these NWOists think they are to decide who is good and who is bad? Who deserves what rights and privledges? What people should believe? How people should behave? What people should wear? etc. etc. etc.

Why not live in a free society, where people can be believe in what they choose to believe, and allow others to do the same?
You believe in your crazy new age new world order religion? Fine.
You believe in Christ, Allah or Buddha? Ok.
You don't want to be RFID tagged? You shouldn't have to.
You want to buy a gun? Go ahead.
You disapprove of guns? Don't buy one and urge others not to, but they should be able to choose.

Personally, you nazi humanist new age hippie new world order scumbags disgust me.



posted on Jan, 4 2006 @ 12:59 PM
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I thought New Age people were suppose to be nicer than than this new age person.



posted on Jan, 4 2006 @ 02:12 PM
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You are quite amusing if you really believe what you said. I knew the RACE CARD was going to be played... "inferior races" who are YOU to call anyone "inferior" I never mentioned anyone's race at all. I said "usless criminals" (that includes every RACE)

The new world order is for everyones benefit. just LOOK at the American "justice" system. Criminals have nothing to fear, because "jail" is such a joke. All you have to do is claim "poor underprivleged me" and you are let off with a slap on the wrist, no matter what you have done. Lawyers just plea bargin even the worst felons and we can't even keep track of the sexual preditors! for GODs sake what is wrong with wanting to "delete" these people? What a joke! I will applaud the day when the NWO takes over and the US constitution is "ammended" to remove, drugs, weapons, "delete" criminals (of all RACES) and I don't care WHY they are criminals, if they will NOT conform to what is morally right by the world council and most religons (that crime is baaad) they should be deleted and recycled to another and better life to make room for us non criminals. Maybe hopefully they will put in a "breeding program" for unfit parents (of all RACES)

Don't call me a NWOist, because I am not. I am a law abiding citizen. I do not loot, shoplift, steal, kill, nor do drugs or even have 15 out of wedlock kids from 15 different "daddies" I serve my community well and have normal kids and a normal family and I KNOW my husband is the Father of my kids ALL 3 OF THEM!

I do not know why "giving up personal freedoms" is such an odd idea to most people? Lets hear it for the NWO!



posted on Jan, 4 2006 @ 02:31 PM
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I'm actually going to quite enjoy seeing the NWO come to power just to see the looks on the faces of all the non-believers, anyway when they do come in i'm not intending on sticking around to see what happens, if they're good then fine but it's more likely when we consider their belief in satan that these people are going to kill a lot of people and lock the rest up.

[edit on 4-1-2006 by ReturnOfTheOutlaw]



posted on Jan, 4 2006 @ 02:32 PM
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Originally posted by newageuponus2
4) Really, deleting a disfunctional and unproductive being is not evil if its for the greater good of society.

nationalism/socialism, heads/tails.


. But if there are "good souls" needing a human body part, why not "delete" the bad individual for the greater good?

Because the greater good doesn't have the right to do that.

give me a life in the early 1900's or late 1800's anyday.

....he says by typing onto his computer in an online discussion.



its too much for most underdeveloped human beings that do not understand "one world order"

So basically people that don't agree with you are genetically and evolutionarily inferior, indeed, they are subhuman.


Finally, "Death" will be realized to be "deleting and reasigning" of ones DNA program to another life form.

This is gibberish. DNA and biology simply doesn't work like that at all. Also, look at what you are saying. You are saying that eventually through this great program people will discover....what you already realize? That doesn't make sense. If there was something that actually convinved you of this, then it has nothing to do with the this great political movement. You are projecting what you already ferverntly beleive onto a made up political movement.


We are all just an advanced "holographic" universal video game,

There is no evidence that supports this.


but we do have potential to become higher beings in future life forms.

There is no data that supports this.

What are you so afraid of?

Goons with guns. Aren't you?

If you have nothing to hide and you obey universal laws then everything should be OK

This is precisely why people shoudl be worried. Having to obey the insane laws that are madeup by other people or face death.

Just join the better world

Why are you assuming that the NWO would accept you? Why assume that it is the utopia you'd like for there to exist?

[edit on 4-1-2006 by Nygdan]



posted on Jan, 4 2006 @ 02:53 PM
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The New World Order is not designed for the average human being to enjoy living in. It is to reshape and reorder all resources on Earth in order to create a Garden of Eden type of lifestyle for the very elite. Unfortunately, their vision of a garden of eden life is one based around despotism and enslavement of all those who are "inferior" to them. This includes you and me. This includes VP's of major corporations. We are all useless eaters unless we willingly serve their agenda.

Ironically, the last obstacle to full implementation of the New World Order rests in the infilterated and corrupted institutions of organized religion. When the major religions annihilate themselves, secular humanism will swoop in to universally displace the "failed" religions of the past.

The NWO is inevitable. The technology exists and is being implemented at an exponential rate in order to create this prison without bars. Maybe it is fate. Maybe it is destiny for the old guard to face the new guard for the fate of the world and its people.

Just remember this. When the elite savor their victories, it will be because of those who did not stand up against the rising of the tide.

The line in the sand will be the microchip.

When They Shall Say "Peace and Safety" Then Sudden Destruction Shall Come Upon Them.



posted on Jan, 4 2006 @ 03:02 PM
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Well to those who think "New Agers" are suposed to be "nicer" than newageuponus2, think again.

The beliefs this person is sharing are part of the "Humanist", "New age", "New World Order" agenda.

Like 'new chum' 'brothers and sisters', the majority do think they are involved in "something good", all the while 'drip feeding' the poison they've been sold as medicine.

This one persons beliefs don't bother me. The fact that so many in power and with popular support because they're considered 'moderate', share these beliefs and worse, but are too cunning to publicly articulate them yet, is what should 'bother' everyone.

We should all thank newageuponus2 for the "heads up" and view of the dark, ugly, heart shaped hole, at the core of the New Age Movement.



posted on Jan, 4 2006 @ 03:54 PM
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Originally posted by newageuponus2
Race has nothing to do with this, and neither do I think I am reacting like "Hitler"

1) What is the difficulty that you have with doing away with money? are you rich? are you "comfortable" in your lifestyle or do you want a bigger house? bigger car, better clothes? What is you had to live in a cardboard shack and eat garbage if you could find it for food? How would you feel then about distributing the world's wealth? Comments? anyone out there?

2) What is wrong with helping valuable citizens that are law abiding and terminating the usless criminals IF they can not be mainstreamed into society and become law abiding citizens? Note: I said nothing about killing innocent, or handicapped people

3) Notice Alex Jones www.infowars.com... is selling no less than hundreds of books that will make him money! Is he giving his money to the poor? Greed is sooo bad.

4) Really, deleting a disfunctional and unproductive being is not evil if its for the greater good of society. This should be used after a last resort and only after a world council govt decides that a person is not fit or capable for "reprogrammming" into the new world order. Every chance possible should be made to save a life. But if there are "good souls" needing a human body part, why not "delete" the bad individual for the greater good?

5) Even "Jesus" (I am not Christian) said in the last days "good will be bad and evil will be called good. So who is right here? How fast would crime stop if criminals, thieves, looters, and thugs knew they were watched on camera or microchipped and their every action was being recorded? I bleive that "sin" is in everyone's DNA and can be "controlled" by microchipping people that can't help them selves. Lets here it for Microchipping the thugs. People that are microchipped and are good for society should be given many more rights and privleges than uncontrollable usless criminals, not more "material goods"

6) Technology is spreading knowledge faster and faster. The more technology begats the more greed. give me a life in the early 1900's or late 1800's anyday. The more technology replaces work with lesure time,the fatter humans become, the more crime, greed and less concern for fellow humans we all have. Humans were "created" and designed (programmed) to work for survival, when work is removed and replaced with pleasure, its too much for most underdeveloped human beings that do not understand "one world order"

7) Finally, "Death" will be realized to be "deleting and reasigning" of ones DNA program to another life form. Death is not the end, its just the "deleting of your computer databanks" WHAT? did you think you are REAL? We are no more "REAL" than the SIMS program. We are all just an advanced "holographic" universal video game, but we do have potential to become higher beings in future life forms.

i am one with the universe.......newageuponus



1) Thats not what the NWO is about

2) Who are you to decide that these people should die?

3) The money Alex makes from this is used to fund his radio broadcast, production of new material and to pay his employees.Don't forget that he fights the NWO full time, how else do you expect him to feed himself and his family? I'd love to work for this guy.

4) Since this one is an opinion I'll reply with one: This is exactly the sick system I'd put my life on the line to fight against.

5) Once again, I don't believe anyone has the moral authority to give or deny me "priveleges"

6) The problem here isn't less work and more play but the NWO itself, I don't even see what this has to do with the NWO. Besides, whats wrong if technology reduces people's workload, Less time working = more freedom + more time to do things of personal interest + more time for social activities if you should chose to do so. If you're concerned about getting fat go out and exercise. I don't understand the relationship between less work = less concern for others, usualy I tend to care less about others when I'm busy with work and a lot more when I have free time to intereact with others in relaxed social settings. Anyway, I still don't see what this has to do with the NWO.

7) I plan on going out the way I came into this world: kicking and screaming. Just because death is inevitable it doesn't mean I have to facilitate it no matter what you or anyone says. Sure, we may have the potential to become higher beings but I'm in no hurry and plan on living this life to the fullest.

Living in a world like that would make me WANT to be a "criminal" which would be more acurate to call a rebel.

Edit: Forgot to mention: Alex Jones is a role model to me and I distribute his videos


[edit on 4-1-2006 by Ranger]



posted on Jan, 4 2006 @ 11:09 PM
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Personally, a one world government might be fine. I don't have a problem with that so much. It's just, what kind of government would it be? We must have the option to disagree with it and take the leader out of power if necessary. You don't want some madman in office who wants to start throwing people in the gas chamber because he thinks they are inferior. I don't agree with a government who runs over it's citizens, and doesn't give them the option to think for themselves.

I believe a man should be free to climb to great heights if he chooses to do so. If he works harder and gets more done than his fellow workers, then yes, he should have a better pay check. You can't just give everybody the same pay. You breed freeloaders this way, who will live off of other's efforts. It's not fair that lazy Joe goofs off all day and gets the same pay as someone who is sweating and pouring his heart into his work. I only believe in government assistance if it is needed or as temporary assistance untill you can get back on your feet.

I believe that man can change. He should be given an opportunity to right his wrongs, and return to society provided he has earned the trust of society and is ready to become a responsible and contributing citizen.

Embrace technology, just don't use it to destroy.

Troy




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