Saddam did NOT GAS HIS OWN PEOPLE

"A typical nuclear fission weapon consists of: fissile material for the core which gives out huge amounts of explosive energy from nuclear reactions when made "super critical" through extreme compression. Fissile material is usually either highly enriched uranium (HEU) or weapons-grade plutonium. HEU can be made in gas centrifuges. Plutonium is made by reprocessing fuel from a nuclear reactor.
A detonation of a 20-kiloton nuclear warhead over a city might flatten an area of approximately 3 square miles. Within 1.6 miles of detonation, blast damage and radiation would cause 80% casualties, three-quarters of which would be fatal. Between 1.6 and 3.1 miles from the detonation, there would still be 10% casualties.

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�Inspectors going in now will have an almost impossible task to discover what�s going on in the nuclear field.... Since the inspectors left, Saddam has had four years at least to hide what needs to be hidden. Now he�s well on the road, his game will be to stall and stall � if America lets him.� - Dr Hamza, Former head of Iraq�s Nuclear development program.

�The contrast to nuclear weapons illustrates why many call germ weapons the �poor man�s atom bomb.� A nation that obtains plans for a crud nuclear device is at the beginning of a complex technical challenges that requires staggering and easily detectible investments in mines, factories, and nuclear reactors. But scientists like Bill Patrick or Ken Alibek say they could teach a terror group how to make devastating germ weapons from a few handfuls of backyard dirt and some widely available lab equipment.� - Judith Miller, Germs, 2001.

�Iraq appears not to have come to a genuine acceptance, not even today, of the disarmament which was demanded of it.� - Dr. Hans Blix.

�Time is on my side.� - Saddam Hussein."

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SOURCES:

Germs, by Judith Miller, 2001. (this one I consider a must read).
Breaking With Moscow, Arkady Schevchenko, 1985.
The Collapse of Communism, ed.by Bernard Gwerlzman & Michael T. Kaufman, 1990.
Counter-Terrorist, Sam Hall, 1987.
Inside Spetznaz: Soviet Special Operations, Maj. William H. Burgess III, 1990.
KGB: The Inside Story Of Its Foreign Operations From Lenin To Gorbachev, Christopher Andrew & Oleg Gordievsky, 1990.
Medieval Warfare, H.W. Koch, 1985.
The Middle East Conflicts: From 1945 to the Present, John Pimlott, 1983.
The Mongols, David Morgan, 1986.
The Rape of Kuwait, Jean P. Sassan, 1991.
Saddam Hussein and The Crisis In The Gulf, Judith Miller & Laurie Myloroie, 1990.
Saddam�s Bomb Maker, Dr. Khidhir Hamza, 2002.
Soviet Strategic Deception, Brian D. Daily & Patrick J. Parker, 1987.
Target America, by Yoseff Bodansky, 1993.

www.dtic.mil...
www.gulflink.osd.mil...
profiles.nlm.nih.gov...
www.cia.gov...
www.pbs.org...
www.pbs.org...
www.pbs.org...
cns.miis.edu...
jama.ama-assn.org...
chemdef.apgea.army.mil...
www.vnh.org...
www.lib.uiowa.edu...
www.telemedicine.org...
www.cbiac.apgea.army.mil...
www.terrorism.com...
www.hri.org...
www.ict.org.il...
www.official-documents.co.uk...
www.iiss.org...
www.defenselink.mil...
www.janes.com...
www.whitehouse.gov...
idl.stanford.edu...


........Need more convincing?


regards
seekerof



[Edited on 29-9-2003 by Seekerof]

Seekerof, thank you.

Seekerof's source:

www.freerepublic.com...

('freerepublic.com - a conservative news forum')

Posted by user PsyOps, 20/02/03.

There is some interesting historical material but given the source, it doesn't do it for me. Its aim is in part to propagandize as well as to inform, and the author selectively used material from these (predominantly right wing) sources:

SOURCES:

Germs, by Judith Miller, 2001. (this one I consider a must read).
Breaking With Moscow, Arkady Schevchenko, 1985.
The Collapse of Communism, ed.by Bernard Gwerlzman & Michael T. Kaufman, 1990.
Counter-Terrorist, Sam Hall, 1987.
Inside Spetznaz: Soviet Special Operations, Maj. William H. Burgess III, 1990.
KGB: The Inside Story Of Its Foreign Operations From Lenin To Gorbachev, Christopher Andrew & Oleg Gordievsky, 1990.
Medieval Warfare, H.W. Koch, 1985.
The Middle East Conflicts: From 1945 to the Present, John Pimlott, 1983.
The Mongols, David Morgan, 1986.
The Rape of Kuwait, Jean P. Sassan, 1991.
Saddam Hussein and The Crisis In The Gulf, Judith Miller & Laurie Myloroie, 1990.
Saddam�s Bomb Maker, Dr. Khidhir Hamza, 2002.
Soviet Strategic Deception, Brian D. Daily & Patrick J. Parker, 1987.
Target America, by Yoseff Bodansky, 1993.

www.dtic.mil...
www.gulflink.osd.mil...
profiles.nlm.nih.gov...
www.cia.gov...
www.pbs.org...
www.pbs.org...
www.pbs.org...
cns.miis.edu...
jama.ama-assn.org...
chemdef.apgea.army.mil...
www.vnh.org...
www.lib.uiowa.edu...
www.telemedicine.org...
www.cbiac.apgea.army.mil...
www.terrorism.com...
www.hri.org...
www.ict.org.il...
www.official-documents.co.uk...
www.iiss.org...
www.defenselink.mil...
www.janes.com...
www.whitehouse.gov...
idl.stanford.edu...



I would actually heavily caution against lifting entire posts out of other bulletin boards and posting them at ATS uncited, but maybe that is not how Seekerof came by the info and he didn't think to check?

Originally posted by Springer
Sanders - YOU stand CORRECTED...

MA - Go piss up a ROPE... I am not a FAG but I am feeling OLD...

P...
m...

Howso?

Seekerof

Sorry, didn't see you post the author's sources as I went to put the kybosh on the work of that poster from freerepublic.com

Seekerof,

1943, 2 December. The SS John Harvey, loaded with 2,000 M47A1 Mustard agent bombs, was destroyed after a German air raid at Bari Harbor, Italy. The only members of the crew who were aware of the chemical munitions were killed in the raid. As a result of the destruction of the ship, mustard agent contaminated the oily water in the harbor and caused more than 600 casualties, in addition to those killed or injured in the actual attack. The harbor clean-up took 3 weeks and used large quantities of lime as a decontaminant.

What were US chemical weapons doing in Italy in the first place.

Incase they were needed to KILL Nazis?

Just a thought...

m...

Originally posted by Springer
Incase they were needed to KILL Nazis?

Just a thought...

m...

With illegal weapons..? Bad, bad USA..

All i'm going to say is Zyclon B, you twit. Bad, bad Adolf.

Uhhhh, Bansit they were LEGAL then... Doh!

Originally posted by goregrinder
All i'm going to say is Zyclon B, you twit. Bad, bad Adolf.

Isnt the Zyclon B, or same chemical with just another name, still today used in US to kill people?

And yes GG, in us there are 'gas chambers', and in those people are killed.

You just call them 'criminals', but they are people still

MA......oh geez..you got me....drat...
Yes, I must give credit to a PsyOp.....great friend and great person.


The beautiful thing about life is that you never know who another may know.


regards
seekerof

You absolutely CRACK ME UP!

You are a HELL of an investigator as well!

Peace...
m...

Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
White supremecists however, live within their own little world as is. If they wanted thier own nation, id let em have Montana anyway, so they can all flock there and get out of everyones hair, and inbreed themselves into extinction.

Let em have New York, Rhode Island, or one of them other yuppie skyscraper loving states. Montana is the "Big Sky Country" where real men do manly jobs like ranching and farming. Montana is home to family values and clean air and water. Give em one of those polluted, vermin infested states on the eastern seaboard. They do not deserve to have Montana.

Originally posted by Bandit

Originally posted by goregrinder
All i'm going to say is Zyclon B, you twit. Bad, bad Adolf.

Isnt the Zyclon B, or same chemical with just another name, still today used in US to kill people?

And yes GG, in us there are 'gas chambers', and in those people are killed.

You just call them 'criminals', but they are people still

Why should the law abiding citizens of any nation pay to house criminals year after year so they can go out and commit more crimes when they get out. The reason criminals continue to commit crimes is because the punishment is not yet severe enough to deter them. I am not saying kill all criminals, just those who commit crimes with guns and murder other people. No nation can allow criminals to rampage unopposed and survive.

See links in respect to UN and Kurds

www.fas.org...

www.kdp.pp.se...

Back to the topic which started this thread. Which is BS, by the way.

Eyewitness accounts identify Iraqi aircraft dispensing the chemicals. There was more than one kind used.

Are you also going to deny the holocaust?

Originally posted by Thomas Crowne
Back to the topic which started this thread. Which is BS, by the way.

Eyewitness accounts identify Iraqi aircraft dispensing the chemicals. There was more than one kind used.

Are you also going to deny the holocaust?

Remember Jones Town?

Or do i have to find you pics and links?



Stranger and sadder thing have happened you know..

And like i have allready many times told:

Traitors must die.

This is so even in US.

Originally posted by Thomas Crowne
Back to the topic which started this thread. Which is BS, by the way.

Eyewitness accounts identify Iraqi aircraft dispensing the chemicals. There was more than one kind used.

Are you also going to deny the holocaust?

The ONLY "eyewitness accounts" were all Kurds who hated the Iraqis, so even if it wasn't the Iraqis, they would have been blamed.

Originally posted by Sanders

Originally posted by Thomas Crowne
Back to the topic which started this thread. Which is BS, by the way.

Eyewitness accounts identify Iraqi aircraft dispensing the chemicals. There was more than one kind used.

Are you also going to deny the holocaust?

The ONLY "eyewitness accounts" were all Kurds who hated the Iraqis, so even if it wasn't the Iraqis, they would have been blamed.

I thought about saying that couple times, but didnt..

Thank you for posting it..

The situation between Iraqis and Kurds is the same like between Serbs and Albanians.

Kurds and Albanians trying their best to make up lies so somebody would 'help' them.. even though the people are just plain terrorists.