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Crabwood Disk Translation.

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posted on Jan, 3 2006 @ 08:52 AM
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Well not to step on spreadthetruth and bpletcj shoes who's post regarding the Giant crop circle of a grey, made me post this, but i find a certain aspect of it fascinating.
Here it is...
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Now, bpletcj posted a video of a very very boring man discussing this in a very detailed way.
And near the end of part 2 he goes into detail about the disc the grey is holding in his hand.
And how they were able to decipher it using binary numbers etc.
The message they decoded was.
"Beware the bearers of FALSE gifts and their BROKEN PROMISES.Much PAIN but still time.BELIEVE.There is GOOD out there.We OPpose DECEPTION.Conduit closing,"

Now note a few things, in the decoded message the words in caps was intended, as we do, to show a greater emphasis on those words.
Now here's the weird thing, another version he says, was the main one distributed, is slightly different, why?
Note that i have put a comma on the end of the first message, apparently, it seems this is just part 1? why do 2 parts to this message over a long period.?

Anyway here is what was supposedly sent around the world as he puts it.
"Beware the bearers of False gifts and their Broken Promises.Much Pain but still time.Beleive There is Good out there.We Oppose Deception.(Bell Symbol)

Now i'm not talking about whether you believe or not in aliens or crop circles, but all this raises a few questions for me.

I was going to say why use this draconian way of communicating, but this was instigated by a message sent out by us in 1974, so they responded in the same way.

Watch the video as it help explain what I'm trying to say.

Why lie about the message?
When is the second message coming or has it come already?

We have all read the theories that we sold out humanity by accepting new technology, and promises broken, should not be trusted.
Maybe the message is not from the greys, but from another race.and thats why the grey in the pic seems to be presenting something, a gift?

In the message they describe themselves as being small with a big head, no not a high ego, u know the typical big head described in most alien cases, so similar to the grey?



[edit on 3-1-2006 by Denied]




posted on Jan, 3 2006 @ 09:02 AM
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hmm correct me if I'm wrong but I thought I remembered reading somewhere that the alien disc crop circles were hoaxed, and the people who made them came forward.

[edit on 3-1-2006 by noslenwerd]



posted on Jan, 3 2006 @ 09:04 AM
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In the original post you have your people that believe and people who don't, but you are saying categorically this is a hoax?



posted on Jan, 3 2006 @ 09:16 AM
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Originally posted by Denied
In the original post you have your people that believe and people who don't, but you are saying categorically this is a hoax?


I'm not 100% sure, but I remember reading up on how they decoded it, and on that same page it went on to say it was a hoax.

Don't quote me on that but let me do a little searching around to be sure. Its been a few months since I read up on this.



posted on Jan, 3 2006 @ 09:20 AM
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Obviously its been discussed alot, but i liked this one summary of it.

"The most fascinating things about this crop formation, I think, are 1. the curious message, which is completely empty (of course you should beware of false gifts, deception etc., nothing new here) and 2. the strange way of combining capital and lowercase characters, particularly in the word "OPpose". And what does "EELRIJUE" mean? It may all be just a smart trick to deviate our attention from the obvious clues that someone is trying to pull our legs. The question remains: Why? Would anyone create such a time-consuming an elaborate hoax just to fool others? Was this formation made by Mel Gibson and friends, afraid that Signs will flop? There must be a reason, and probably a pretty good one too. I wonder if time will tell. "

And what does "EELRIJUE" mean?

Also something very intersting, a couple of astronemers sent messages using what they had back.
They saw strange lights on the horizen that night, and the next day 2 new crop circles showed up.
They didnt tell anyone of their doing until after.
Heres the link.
Link

And the crop circles that came back.....






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[edit on 3-1-2006 by sanctum]



posted on Jan, 3 2006 @ 09:20 AM
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Oh a little off topic but may be of some interest. Here is another crop circle formation that was decoded with binary

www.cropcircleresearch.com...

(Still searching for the alien disc one)



posted on Jan, 3 2006 @ 09:59 AM
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Originally posted by DeniedAnd how they were able to decipher it using binary numbers etc.
The message they decoded was.
"Beware the bearers of FALSE gifts and their BROKEN PROMISES.Much PAIN but still time.BELIEVE.There is GOOD out there.We OPpose DECEPTION.Conduit closing,"


Noted. We'll start with that.


Now note a few things, in the decoded message the words in caps was intended, as we do, to show a greater emphasis on those words.


Okay... we all know I'm a skeptic. But, for the sake of argument, let's say that there IS a real ship out there and that they're trying to communicate. Would you agree that the ship's crew:
* includes linguists or ways to understand our language (although why they always communicate in English is an interesting absurdity)
* are professionals similar to our current astronauts
* have one or more xenobiologist (who is an expert in human anatomy and physiology and perhaps animal anatomy and physiology
* have at least one navigation specialist
* have some sort (or sorts) of computing devices aboard.
* that their technology and computers are more advanced than ours.
* that they completely understand how our computers work.

Would you say that's reasonable?



Anyway here is what was supposedly sent around the world as he puts it.
"Beware the bearers of False gifts and their Broken Promises.Much Pain but still time.Beleive There is Good out there.We Oppose Deception.(Bell Symbol)


The "bell symbol" here is hilarious. I hadn't encountered that before... I'll explain in a minute.


I was going to say why use this draconian way of communicating, but this was instigated by a message sent out by us in 1974, so they responded in the same way.


Actually, they didn't.



Why lie about the message?

Because the message itself is a lie. And, in fact, it says nothing other than "woowoo-scary scary!" If they had time to show up and tromp out a crop circle, then they would have had time to show up and leave more detailed messages ... say, carved across the face of Mt. Rushmore in the US or lasered across landscapes of wheat in any part of the world... or simply broadcast on ALL our broadcast channels to every part of the world in all languages, understandable by everyone.


When is the second message coming or has it come already?

We have all read the theories that we sold out humanity by accepting new technology, and promises broken, should not be trusted.

Maybe the message is not from the greys, but from another race.and thats why the grey in the pic seems to be presenting something, a gift?


Or maybe it's just a bogus message.

Go back to the first part of this message... we all agreed that a ship would have those sorts of experts on it, right? Then they would know how WE spell words and how WE use emphasis (note that I am using formal English and I didn't put SOme LETTERS in cAPS just to be "leet" about things.)

In fact, a linguist wouldn't know the "leet" type of emphasis. But they would know good sentence structure and proper capitalization because it's fairly simple in English.

So why do these "alien linguists" and xenobiologists suddenly NOT know how to spell English. Why are they writing in "leet" when it's used by only a tiny fraction of the population? Why use bad capitalization when what was sent in the first place was a string of numbers?

Why use a fluffy and inane message (as so many have pointed out) with poor grammar and inept capitalization when they had an overwhelming amount of other material that shows proper spelling and capitalization? Any linguist worth their salt could have figured out the grammar and spelling rules easily, particularly with the use of computers.



And then there's the "bell symbol."

No one has actually commented on (that I've seen) the significance of the ASCII and the bell symbol. Maybe it just grabbed me because I was a computer engineer and had to do work with ASCII and assembler and other ugly things like that.

The "bell symbol" is the graphic that shows up on your computer when you type in the ASCII for CTRL-G. It means "this signal causes any Intel chips to send a current to the sound board to produce a chime tone at the speaker." While you might find it encoded in documents if the document a non-ASCII document (like word processing files), at the end of an ASCII file it's a computer command and not an "end of line" or "end of message" marker.

It isn't transmitted as an "end of message" symbol for any of our radio messages, television messages, phone signals, etc, etc, etc.

It's specific to ONE type of computer chip... the one used in standard PCs.

So... in order for a ship full of highly technical people to show up and post a "leet" message like that, they would have had to arrive here, learn our languages and technology, sneak into a computer store and get a computer (and hook it up without blowing it up (wrong voltages)) and learn the operating system of the day, and THEN figure out how to go into DEBUG to see the ASCII codes.

And then discover the various sound codes and jump instructions (which are hard to find unless you know where to look for them.)

...and then misspell a message for the world in English, using ASCII and including a symbol that simply generates a sound ONLY on one type of chip.


In the message they describe themselves as being small with a big head, no not a high ego, u know the typical big head described in most alien cases, so similar to the grey?

Because the hoaxers have a limited imagination and amount of information. I don't think they could imagine a silicon life form (for instance... and that's one possible life form) or a lemur-like intelligent life form or a scorpionoid intelligent life form or any of a billion other possibilites.

They obviously don't read a lot of science fiction.

They borrow from the movies and popular literature (the "grey" actually didn't show up as an "alien" until the 1950's) because that's what they know.

I predict that in the future other "messages" will show up from these people, equally "urgent" and "cryptic." In fact, I will bet you that as we approach 2012, there will be a rush of them, all predicting "new agey" things and Mysterious Trends.

I also predict that when we do finally make contact with alien civilizations, they'll look at the mumbo-jumbo of the crop circles and laugh at what cosmic fools some of us have been.


[edit on 3-1-2006 by Byrd]



posted on Jan, 3 2006 @ 10:00 AM
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IMO, the message that was 'decoded' looks like warning that some would say ties into the 'grand deception'. I can't say aliens did this but it is a message that many people on earth preach.



posted on Jan, 3 2006 @ 10:10 AM
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i hear your point, but isn't it a theory that if there were any intelligent ET life out there, then a common language would be mathematics?
Which is what was used.

Also, they could laser all across a big structure and send a telly message of course, but they responded in the same way we started communication.
Im undecided as to whether a hoax, an incredible feat i think, can be done by humans, but im sure there would be more signs of errors or mistakes.?



posted on Jan, 3 2006 @ 01:09 PM
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I’m with Byrd on this. Byrd’s analysis was actually quite kind.

I think the crop art which is the subject of this thread is quite remarkable and rich in detail. I don’t know how long it took to produce, or the tools used to produce it, but I must take my hat off to the producers. Great job!


I’ve noticed over the years the designs and quality of the finished product continue to improve. Whoever is behind it appears to be getting better. The original circles, though quite nice, were not nearly as refined as the crop (cough, cough…) coming out these days. In a way, the evolution is almost humanlike (slow). But still, impressive.

The binary analysis performed on the crop art doesn’t really impress me one way or the other. It almost seems pointless to me in a way. If an alien wanted to convey a specific, detailed message, and chose crop circles (art) as the means to deliver it, what a dumb alien that would be. I mean, whack down the wrong bush and the whole DNA sequence you’re trying to depict is garbage. Dang!!

IMHO crop art has become quite impressive, spectacular in this case, but none-the-less is a very human accomplishment. I think people want to believe so badly that we are not alone that they will latch onto things like this and use it to validate their beliefs. I, too, hope we one day make contact with a high intelligence (but not too high!!) and we become enlightened. I doubt we’ll communicate via crop art/circles, though. I’m afraid that might lead to a lot of misunderstandings.

One last thing. Denied, I wouldn’t take it for granted that communications between humans and other intelligent entities will necessarily have a mathematical element. Remember, mathematics, as we understand it, is a human invention/language based upon human logic. It has it’s flaws and may not be as universal as we think. At least not in the form and foundation we have built it upon. That’s another thread, though, and was only a thought.



posted on Jan, 5 2006 @ 09:12 AM
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"One last thing. Denied, I wouldn’t take it for granted that communications between humans and other intelligent entities will necessarily have a mathematical element. Remember, mathematics, as we understand it, is a human invention/language based upon human logic. It has it’s flaws and may not be as universal as we think. At least not in the form and foundation we have built it upon. That’s another thread, though, and was only a thought."

I just heard somewhere that a good possibility mathematics was the most understood universal language.
But your right too.



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