Speaking Of Plagiarism
This is my own take on this, as a member.
is the presentation of the work of someone else as your own.
This has never
been acceptable on ATS and has always carried a ban as a potential consequence, so there's nothing new about this policy, other
While I don't know one way or the other, I'm guessing the staff has been advised from one or more sources that it would be wise to ensure that ATS
policy on the protection of intellectual property is as clear and unambiguous as possible.
Again, I don't see this announcement and the new “ex” tags as an actual change in policy. The staff has always been aggressive in dealing with
cases of known plagiarism and copyright violations -- not to mention all those edits and excessive quote warns they have had to hand out over the
Rather, I see this as the staff going the extra mile to ensure that the growing membership of ATS is crystal clear on this matter.
Also, in legal terms, this represents a good faith effort and a way for the staff to gain the assistance of the members in performing due diligence
to implement this policy throughout the vast store of intellectual property that ATS represents.
That's a good thing to do no matter what.
“Quote” Versus “Ex” Tags
My current understanding of the use of the “ex” tags versus “quote” tags is as follows.
“Quote” tags are used to quote the words of fellow members or other sources internal
Originally posted by Springer
USE THE "EX TAGS" FOR ALL QUOTES PERIOD.
As S.O. pointed out, ALL interpretations of fair use or ANY copyright issue will be/have been decided by the owners of ATS. Our decision is to use the
ex tags on 100% of ALL quotes no matter the size, style, creed or origin of said quotes as has been outlined in this thread.
has said “All QUOTES” regardless of “size, style, creed or origin ”, so I may be inferring more than I should here.
However, I see this as referring to all quotations of external sources.
As an example:
v. pla·gia·rized, pla·gia·riz·ing, pla·gia·riz·es
1. To use and pass off (the ideas or writings of another) as one's own.
2. To appropriate for use as one's own passages or ideas from (another).
In this case, I have been careful to give a link or citation to the external source and limit the amount of material quoted to a small, relevant
sample. Additional information on the definition cited can be found by following the link.
The use of these new “ex” tags will help make it crystal clear when material from outside ATS is being included in an article here by explicitly
labeling it as from an “External Source”, and in so doing help emphasize the extra care which must be taken when using such materials in our
Specifically, I caution members that the use of any material from a non-ATS source without the inclusion of a link or a clear citation (author, work,
source, etc.) is something that will probably not be tolerated. And, as indicated, if you are found to have presented the work of someone else as your
own, you can expect at least
a temporary ban, if you're lucky.
So please, don't do that!
I urge any member who may feel uncertain about what the staff is saying here to not be shy about asking. The time to do this is before
a lot of non-ATS material, not after.
Heck, I may be misinterpreting something myself here, in which case I'm sure a staff member will set me straight.
Why This Is Important
The staff of AboveTopSecret.com must, first and foremost, ensure that the site stays up and running and available for us ATS junkies to be able to get
our fixes 24/7.
Anything which jeopardizes the continued operation of ATS will obviously inspire emphatic opposition not only from the staff, but from all members who
love ATS, myself included.
Thus I encourage those of my fellow members who may feel put off or intimidated by what may seem at first to be a heavy-handed policy to consider what
would happen if the staff was not so protective of the website that is the foundation of our community.
If the prospect of being deprived of ATS due to catastrophic legal action over copyright issues doesn't frighten and piss you off as much as it does
me, then I recommend going without any ATS access whatsoever for a few months to get a real taste of what that would be like.
For me at least, no other example is needed.
I fully support the ATS staff in this, will do everything I can to comply and assist, and urge my fellow members to do likewise.