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Originally posted by Saphronia
the word 'n-word' has contributed to the multi platinum success stories of Kanye West, Jay-Z, Tupac, Biggie Smalls, and a truckload of not-so-notorious rappers in the past.
I don't think it's that deep. We grow up using it like its a curse...something we dare not say in front our parents or grown folk in general. Tis just part of our vocab, now. You are giving it way too much power. When a rapper uses nigga tis like saying and or the. It's just a word. Like any other word, it has serveral different meanings and connotations. I use it, not like I use to, but it's a hard thing to just take up out of your mouth.
Pick a word, one that you use a few hundred times a day, and tell yourself you will not say that word all day. That's what it's like. Then think back on how hard it was to do it and what it accomplished...not a darn thang! Cept a lot of frustration and stuttering. I was so disappointed when Oprah sat on her high horse like the word police one day on her show like removing nigga from our vocab is all of a sudden going to make being black in america heaven on earth. It takes hard work for anyone to succeed in this country. I say preach the work and leave the words alone.
Even his comments about the Katrina disaster were crack. We all were standing around my mother's kitchen asking where is the government, why haven't they got those people out of there, and he just answered our questions. It needed to be said. You just don't get that type of honesty anymore. No one was actually challenging the administration to get off their do nothing. How long would it have taken if he didn't say anything like all the other stars? If there wasn't a controversy there wouldn't of been a reason for Bush to focus his attention on the Americans that were dying. Truthfully, I don't think it was a race issue, tis a Bush don't care about nobody but Bush issue. He can't see beyond the nose on his face. So you got to get up in his face with an attack before he reacts. And the victims are still suffering, but its all about some people overseas getting some phony democracy when we can't even take care of our own phony democracy.
For instance Someone stole my chip out of my accura while i was in florida. I called the police the police did not fingerprint the panels, did not really look for a suspect even though i knew who it was.
A gun never solved a problem in my negiborhood it just caused more. I’m saying this as a gun owner but my guns stay locked and in the house unless I am going to practice or hunt. You disappoint me I honestly though we could have a heated dialogue but you only want to shout racist epitats at the “black race” . Have fun because “like in da hood Uss know there iz allwayzz a bigger Dun with a 4 pounder!”…
I am all about an honest dialogue, and have not made any racist statements towards you or the black race.
We in the white community have many leaders that will tell us what we should be doing, and do not pander to us. However, the black community does not have any. Jesse Jackson? Al Sharpton? No way!! Jesse Jackson is too busy trying to get black murderers from being executed than to point out problems.
just look around the poor neighborhoods. All I see when I drive through are kids running around unsupervised! Not at home doing their homework, or with parents in view. Drive through a white neighborhood, and what do you see?
I don't know anything about Marcus Garvey, or Malcom X.
I know what the communities look like, and have an idea of what is going on. Unfortunately, if there were some good leaders in the communities, then we would see the problems decrease.
People such as Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton pander to the communities, and shake down corporations for donations. Children unattended are joining gangs, failing in school, and the teenage girls are getting pregnant. You think I don't know the situation in the black communities? I nailed it!
And my loaded Glock under the seat? Yes.
I hope this is a wake up call for black people to not rely on the government. Get educated, stay off of drugs, and work hard. Most importantly, heed the warning and get out!
I don't make it a priority to drive through "the hood" as you say it, because black people there often prey on people they perceive as weak(i.e. families, teenagers, women, etc.).
I am all about an honest dialogue, and have not made any racist statements towards you or the black race. Until you see a problem with you race, and set out to make drastic change in the community, then your race will not move foward. Your race will be stuck in the past.
Originally posted by Saphronia
You fail to see the big picture as a american. While you admit that the problems you link to the black community exist in all poor communities, it is still only a black problem in your eyes. While you swear to have all the answers you show nothing more than continual ignorance. There are three black people in this thread. All well read, seemingly educated, and probably successful, as the majority of black folk in this country. But you are too high on your pulpit to recognize the black people that live in the middle class, and you of course denounce the 2% like Fifty and Snoop who've achieved extreme wealth (do you ask white people to reject Tarintino because he makes violent movies for profit?), and then you bang hard on the poor minority. Yes, it is a minority. The majority of black people have jobs and go to work every day just like you. They are american just like you, and subject to the same life forces you and every american are subject to. 1/4 of the black population in this country lives in poverty. Black people make up 12% of the over all US population of 280 million. That is roughly 34-5 million people and 9 or so million of those black people happen to be poor.
[edit on 28-1-2006 by Saphronia]
Secondly, do the math, you wanna put us ALL in prison? That is just unrealistic. There are those that make their living off of "WE NEED TO RISE AS A PEOPLE." And they say things like "We've made great strides since the civil rights act but we need to go further." How far really? People destroy their lives and futures everyday. Aint got nothing to do with the color of their skin. We have all seen it so why is this thread about black people. A small minority whose problems are dwarfed when compared to the white folks in real numbers. Not stats and percents. You break it down to the real values and then judge, because then you can actually put these numbers in context, and out of the hands of spin doctors.
Originally posted by Saphronia
A cycle of poverty exist in America, period.
I give up.
Originally posted by agwardlds
I would be interested in seeing who is committing these crimes. I surmise the majority of these crimes are committed by Democrats, or people with liberal leaning political views.
Lets see if there is some research on this. My gut feeling is that I am right