A recent problem..

Feel free to quote my anywhere if what little information I have helps. I read the Fight Back? thread, and my suggestion is a high calibur rifle round. From the sounds of the 'farmer' incident, the aliens are good at absorbing kinetic energy. Shotguns are exactly known for their armor piercing abilities, but a rifle might do it.

For example, its much easier to stop a nail from being pushes into then a needle.. Same force, just a more refined point. If we could do a field test this might prove interesting, but given the situation that we're discussing, it might be hard to get an alien to visit you when you have a 30-ought-6 ready to fire.

I have a few questions about the appearance of the grey.

1) Could you maybe estimate the height of the grey? Try to think back and see if it matched height with anything in the room, that might help give you an idea of how tall it was.

2) How did its musclulature appear? Definition?

3) Proportions? What size were its feet, hands, head , etc. in comparison the rest of the body?

4) Number of digits? How many fingers, how many toes?

I know it can be hard to remember exact details, but could you try? Thanks.

It was pretty dark, so I didn't get a very good look at its hands or anything. But from the light it was in, I could tell it had pretty big eyes.. They covered a good bit of its face. The alien didn't have much definition that I could see.. It was smooth, flat, almost non-organic looking. It was about up to my shouldar, so i'd give it a good 4-5 feet in hieght, give or take some inches. Hope this helps.

Originally posted by the_renegade

Originally posted by Gunman
But I still went to the local 'crackpot' to ask his advice. He gave me some pitures of what looked like a cigar flying over my house, what he insisted was an 'alien' (really just a blurry nightvision picture of his backyard) and a couple other things like that. He said he'd ask the 'higher ups' about my encounter, and thats when I encountered trouble.

What? I don't get this.

Damn they deducted points for that shortness.

First what does "crackpot" mean to you? Me it means drug user, might not be what you meant. If so, then does this mean that the local crackpot was in on it with the gov? A sort of lacky with photos of a ufo over your house or nightvision pics? Because that would be an odd event.



[edit on 1-1-2006 by the_renegade]

Gunman I think you missed what I had asked, so here it is again. Read above.
Thanks.

Err.. Still not sure what you meant. Im sorry, my brain can get a bit slow at these things.

First what does "crackpot" mean to you? Me it means drug user, might not be what you meant. If so, then does this mean that the local crackpot was in on it with the gov? A sort of lacky with photos of a ufo over your house or nightvision pics? Because that would be an odd event.

It's not hard to answer.

You said you went to the local "CRACKPOT", and he had images of a cigar shaped craft over your house, which you said was just nightvision images of his backyard? This crackpot contaced the "higher ups" according to you.

WHAT???!?!?!?! In my opinion, to ME, you're loosing your credibility fast, unless you can explain this crackpot person.

[edit on 2-1-2006 by the_renegade]

[edit on 2-1-2006 by the_renegade]

This 'crackpot' person is a UFO cook, and has pictures of things that are cleaerly not UFOs, blurry photos of what appear to be trees, people and low flying aircraft, and other such dismisable evidence that he calls 'UFO proof'. Granted going to this person might've been a bit short of wisdom, but its the closest thing to an expert that I can find in town.

I don't think hes a drug user, but I also dont know the guy well enough to say for sure. I cant quite see where my credibility is going down the drain here.. I went to the local UFO pseudo-expert, he said that he would tell the 'higher ups' (not exact words, but you get the idea).

Thank you for clearing that up for me. Appreciate it. So after you talked to this person and he said something around the words of "higher ups" the gov't began to appear?

Yeah.. I just guessed that the UFO community had a system or something. Who knows, might be a whole club of those lunatics.

Alright, but after he said that to you, the government went looking for you? You don't see this as weird?

I do, but the MP had to have been told by someone. I just assumed someone he told mightve had some loose lips.. And I wasnt exactly being 'secretive' about the encounter until I was contacted by the MP.

So am i right in assuming if he looked like an MP he was wearing fatigues? Do you really think the Army or Air Force would send a regular MP to shut someone up. Would have been better if you said it was Will Smith or Tommy Lee Jones.

ZoSo, that's pretty harsh man...maybe this guy has never even seen an actual "MP" in his life, but that's just what he associates with people in suits getting all heavy on him eh?
It is a pretty scary story, and I hope you make it through man.
I believe man, I always will.

When I read any post here about alien experiences-
or actually, any paranormal experience,
I try to read between the lines and "feel"
the vibe of the writer... inaccurate intuition, sure, but I find my gut
is more accurate than my brain in detecting truth and lies.

That being said, I do believe this story- I won't bother explaining
why, and who really cares why I believe it anyway...

But the issue, it seems, rests on the question of what should this person do now...

If it were me, and spooks showed up at my door, I would certainly do the following:

1) Post on ATS my real name and hometown, so there is a paper trail and record to recover
if I am ever harmed, and...

2) Email and fax a pre-written story, an account (including said spook) of what happened-
and I would send it to a dozen small, medium and large news organizations- BECAUSE while the UFO part may seem not very newsworthy, the gov agent showing up IS very TIMELY when you consider the current issue of government spying on civilians- a seperate issue, sure- but related to the overall issue of government vs. individual privacy, protection and power.

Making a record is key- if you were liquidated tomorrow, none of us could help or sound the alarm is none of us know who you are.

But hey, it's just my opinion.

TPM

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[edit on 3-1-2006 by intrepid]

"Liquidated tomorrow"
Man, that just makes me want to put my REAL name ALL OVER the internet.
Nah, I think maybe play it cool, you are doing well right now.
That's not to say they already don't know who you are, but, slapping
your vitals up is pretty damn dumb in my not so humble opinion.
Keep it close.
When you DO have pictures, video or alien porn, pop it up and let us know!
I believe man. I always will

When you DO have pictures, video or alien porn, pop it up and let us know!

Brilliant like 'Muffy the reptilian layer'

In all seriousness i would not post you deatails on the internet, just hold tight and dont mouth off about it, they will probably leave you alone when the relise your not a threat.

Have you seen or have spoken to the "ufo cook" ever since the visit by the gov't?

Regardless of the veracity of the SERPO website,
one has to admit to the logic offered by Bill Ryan regarding
the hard choice one makes when disclosing truth of any alien-related kind...
whether that be formerly classifed truth suppressed by our government
or personal experiences, like the one at the head of this thread...

When one puts the truth out there, whether it be a single alien experience or
the full-blown disclosure so many of us are waiting for, one must face the issue
of consequences... punishment by those in power seeking to maintain the suppression.

When Bill Ryan says he is "hiding out in the open" by revealing his name,
it makes perfect sense- if he IS telling the truth, and he gets killed, there is NO CHANCE
anyone will know about it... but, by telling us, he creates a network of those who are aware of what he did to provoke the punishment.

Hence, my advice.

Tell the world your story, if you can't sleep at night.
If you can forget the whole thing, then sure, I would agree with others- shut up.

But, your posts reflect a literal paranoia that will not abate unless you invest in insurance-
and to me, telling as many people the truth about who I am and what happened to me is the very best- and only- insurance available for this situation.

Good luck!

TPM

While anyone truly interested in finding me probably has the resources to do so, i'd like to make it as hard for someone who does as possible. I appreciate the support, as well as the questions and comments. I went into this with both eyes open, and fully expected people not to belive me.

The MP I described probably looked like an airforce officer.. I cant rightly say what one looks like, but it seemed like they would look like him. Didn't present a badge, but I got the feeling of military authority off him for some reason..

On the subject of the 'cook'.. I've kept my distance since then. He could be the one who ratted me out, or someone he told about the incident could have. Either way, I dont think its wise to contact him for some time.

Gunmen only you know the truth, if it's true then get your name out there. The more you keep quiet the more they'll search. I would go to the "cook" to ask him a few questions. Our destiny isn't to hide from our fears or from what we don't understand. Find your enlightenment.

The gov't likes to play games, the ball's in your hands.

Be safe Gunmen.