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U.S government releases 123 pages of proposed space tourism rules

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posted on Dec, 31 2005 @ 02:06 AM
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More than 120 pages of proposed rules, released Thursday, governing the future of space tourism touch on everything from medical standards for passengers to preflight training.



The proposal does not include specifications for the space vehicles themselves.

Legislation signed a year ago by President Bush and designed to help the space industry flourish at its outset without too much government interference requires the Federal Aviation Administration to conduct a "phased approach" to regulating commercial human space flights.

The first set of regulations -- dealing with crew qualifications and training and informed consent for passengers -- is expected to go into effect next June. Some other safety-related rules cannot by law be issued for eight years unless specific design features or operating practices are brought into question as a result of an incident causing serious injuries or a fatality.

"This means that the FAA has to wait for harm to occur or almost occur before it can impose restrictions, even against foreseeable harm," the proposal says.

Instead, Congress required that passengers be informed of the risks. In turn, passengers would have to provide written consent before takeoff that they understand and are aware of the risks.

Physical exams for passengers are recommended but will not be required "unless a clear public safety need is identified," the FAA said in the proposed regulations.

Passengers also would have to be trained on how to respond during emergencies, including the loss of cabin pressure, fire and smoke, as well as how to get out of the vehicle safely.

Pilots, meanwhile, must have an FAA pilot certificate and be able to show that they know how to operate the vehicle. Student or sport pilot licenses would not qualify.

Crew members must have a medical certificate issued within a year of the flight, and their physical and mental state must "be sufficient to perform safety-related roles," the rules say.

The FAA also would require each crew member to be trained to ensure that the vehicle will not harm the public, such as if it had to be abandoned during a flight emergency.



The 123-page FAA proposal was published in the Federal Register, the government's daily publication of rules and regulations, and will be subject to public comment for 60 days, through Feb. 27. Final regulations are expected by June 23


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Cough-RedTape-Cough

There aren't even 10 pages of gun owner laws/rules. So why would they need 123 pages for space tourism rules...




posted on Dec, 31 2005 @ 03:11 AM
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Uhh does the word "Improvised Ballistic Missile" ring a bell?

And they are proposed rules and are not set in stone even when they do get approved. I think it will get whittled down through attrition while going through the motions.

[edit on 31-12-2005 by sardion2000]



posted on Dec, 31 2005 @ 03:33 AM
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Errr... not even ten pages of gun laws? yeh that ATF freakin triple STRENGTH BIBLE isn't anywhere near ten pages..... not to nit pick but seriously lol.

actually commenting on the topic at hand however... y'all didn't really think the fed wouldn't regulate this to death did you? After the first proof of concept run the FAA boyz prolly rubbed their hands together with glee at the thought of being able to super regulate another area... and the BILLIONS of increased funding for focus groups and comissioning of studies etc it would bring



posted on Jan, 1 2006 @ 04:32 AM
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Only 123 pages? Wow! The Federal Aviation Regulations, Aeronautical Information Manual (FAR/AIM) for 2006 is 936 pages. Those space airlines are getting off light, if you ask me!



posted on Jan, 1 2006 @ 07:12 AM
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Well of course there would be a lot of laws.

Laws like...

1. If you see anything like a UFO in space, you must forget it.
2. If you have recored a UFO in space in any way, you must hand it over.
3. If you talk about any UFO you saw in space, we reserve the right to kill you.
4. That isn't a huge alien base on the moon....*it's all an illusion*
5. If you try to interact with UFOs / Aliens, we will kill you.

What else....do anything to do with UFOs / Aliens and you're dead.


"Yes, we can hide and extend it to 123 pages, George".



posted on Jan, 1 2006 @ 09:26 AM
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ya thats what i was thinking no cameras no videos cams blah blah blah if u get abducted while in space we'll say you floated out lol



posted on Jan, 1 2006 @ 11:41 AM
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Originally posted by Manincloak
"Yes, we can hide and extend it to 123 pages, George".


Well, anyone who wanted to fly a spaceliner or own a company that operates them would have to understand and comply with all of those rules, or at least the parts that apply to them.

The FAR/AIM that I mentioned before may be 936 pages, but as just a private pilot only a couple hundred pages (if that even) apply to me. If I owned a flight school, more parts would apply. If I owned a regional airline company, more parts that that would apply. And so on, and so on.

So, if anything, there are different parts for different categories of spacelines.



posted on Jan, 1 2006 @ 02:43 PM
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yeah, let me just get out my super space jet, and get captain kirk to pilot it, but only after i've had my remote start installed....it's cold up there..

do you really think they are gonna let any civilian up there? it's bad enough them trying to keep quiet nasa and other astronauts...do you really think that any joe without a billion dollars would just "take a cruise" along the astral belt 75?

just watch out for potholes...they can be nasty.



posted on Jan, 1 2006 @ 03:15 PM
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These are of course just meant to complement the 10 imutable and un-written profound laws of space travel, which anyone whose ever spent time on the Ganamede run is fully aware of. Those laws of course are:

1) He who smelt it dealt it.

2) Urine bags are not water balloons.

3) Never wear a red shirt when visiting a planet for the first time.

4) Never throw a water balloon at the captain, please see rule 2.

5) Always build your own robot as soon as opportunity permits.

6) Never tell that creepy guy that calls himself "doctor" where the robots "evil" switch is.

7) If your onboard computer should ever say the words "Good morning Dave", shoot yourself out of the airlock immediately.

8) Things that explode out of your shipmates stomachs and/or leap up hug your face and try to lay eggs in your mouth, those things are bad. Kill them immediately or if available contact Sigourney Weaver immediately.

9) Be nice, flush twice.

10) Porn, guns and romulan ale never mix...ever.

Happy space traveling.

SPiderj



posted on Jan, 2 2006 @ 01:14 AM
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do you really think they are gonna let any civilian up there?


The Russians already have
If the USA stops it then the companies will just move to another country or even offshort. And I thought the majority of NASA Astronaughts were civilian academic types(save for the pilot)

[edit on 2-1-2006 by sardion2000]



posted on Jan, 2 2006 @ 01:26 AM
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Originally posted by sardion2000
And I thought the majority of NASA Astronaughts were civilian academic types(save for the pilot)


Nope, the majority have been military. It's only really until the past two decades with the Shuttles that there have been civilians onboard frequently.



posted on Jan, 2 2006 @ 12:26 PM
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Originally posted by cmdrkeenkid
Nope, the majority have been military. It's only really until the past two decades with the Shuttles that there have been civilians inboard frequently.


Come on now.............. It's the civilians with all the money now days.
Do You think that If Bill Gates wonted to get into space He could not afford to do so?
Here......... www.msnbc.msn.com... This is just a small taste of what my friend Burt is up to. There are others out there trying to do the same thing.

[edit on 2-1-2006 by Mr101Hazardous]



posted on Jan, 11 2006 @ 02:43 PM
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Originally posted by cmdrkeenkid

Originally posted by Manincloak
"Yes, we can hide and extend it to 123 pages, George".


Well, anyone who wanted to fly a spaceliner or own a company that operates them would have to understand and comply with all of those rules, or at least the parts that apply to them.

The FAR/AIM that I mentioned before may be 936 pages, but as just a private pilot only a couple hundred pages (if that even) apply to me. If I owned a flight school, more parts would apply. If I owned a regional airline company, more parts that that would apply. And so on, and so on.

So, if anything, there are different parts for different categories of spacelines.


You forgot the obligatory 20 something pages dedicated to describing which revision it is, and where authority to even print it is derived from.



posted on Jan, 11 2006 @ 03:21 PM
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With Richard Branson being rather close to deploying the first commercially realistic "spaceliner" tourist operator it's only a matter of time that all kinds of regulations will come into play with regards to this new public frontier. But not all this red tape is sinister, lets not forget that even commercial airliners across the world have extensive regulations that they must adhere to.

Also don't forget we're only talking about just over 100km (maybe higher, this hasn't been confirmed) above the earth here, not private ventures to put a man on the moon. This is essentially commercial sightseeing at high altitude !! An expensive journey for the rich in the immediate future.

Very interesting and semi-comprehensive article available here:

news.bbc.co.uk...

[edit on 11-1-2006 by timb3r]



posted on Jan, 11 2006 @ 05:06 PM
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I'd like to add, if I had the money I would most certainly secure myself a seat on that flight.



posted on Jan, 12 2006 @ 04:20 AM
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7) If your onboard computer should ever say the words "Good morning Dave", shoot yourself out of the airlock immediately.

&

10) Porn, guns and romulan ale never mix...ever.







Fun days ahead....




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