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reply posted on 6-1-2009 @ 08:06 PM by Hellmutt
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A compressor station in Ukraine suddenly stopped working. Several countries in Europe had their gas supplies cut off.
Europe running out of gas
Several European countries have had their deliveries of gas through Ukraine cut off, a situation which the EU describes as "unacceptable". Gazprom
says Ukraine's energy company has shut off a number of pipelines. Meanwhile, the head of Naftogaz has announced he is ready to resume
negotiations
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reply posted on 6-1-2009 @ 09:03 PM by Hellmutt
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Slovakia declares a state of emergency, and Bulgaria wants to restart unsafe nuclear reactors.
There's a related thread here.
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reply posted on 6-1-2009 @ 09:31 PM by maloy
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Yeah I hear Slovakia is in real deep sh*t with less than 2 weeks of supplies. What is really troubling is that there is a complete deadlock now on
any negotiations process. Neither side is talking with the other, and both are now making their demands more and more outrageous - I am guessing out
of spite.
I think this is as good of a time as any for Timoshenko to step up and work towards settling this without Yuschenko's involvement. That could really
be a symbolic coup against his already failing administration.
And for now EU is still maintaining that this dispute is solely between Ukraine and Russia. I wonder if in the coming days we will see growing
involvement by the EU to moderate the dispute.
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reply posted on 27-2-2009 @ 06:24 AM by Hellmutt
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Seems like the gas supplies to Europe might get cut off again...
Hungary urges EU to prepare for renewed eastern gas dispute -
paper
 Budapest, February 27 (MTI)
Hungary urges the European Union to take action against a renewed gas dispute between Russia and Ukraine, national daily Nepszabadsag reported on
Friday.
Hungary's government has received unfavourable news about potential problems in gas supplies from Ukraine, Energy Minister Csaba Molnar told the
paper. Please visit the link provided for the complete story.
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reply posted on 27-2-2009 @ 07:29 PM by Hellmutt
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The gas to Ukraine might be cut off unless they pay their bills by March 7.
Kyiv Post: Gazprombank advisor does not rule out possible gas cut-off for Ukraine
"To my profound regret, I cannot say that such a threat [a halt to gas supplies to Ukraine] does not exist. Unfortunately, such a threat
exists," Konoplyanik said.
There is a possibility that Naftogaz Ukrainy will not have enough funds to pay for these shipments, he said, adding that this payment is to be made on
March 7. Please visit the link provided for the complete story.
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reply posted on 1-3-2009 @ 03:51 PM by TeslaandLyne
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Yeah, I think they were steeling gas, er not paying for it.
So the hoodlums could not be controlled and the Russian army
had to eliminate the pressure, er the hoodlums.
Ain't it the truth, it happens again and again.
Cases of steeling, lets see. Wow from Madoff to City Bank the
ripoff is never ending.
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reply posted on 4-3-2009 @ 05:46 AM by Hellmutt
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Breaking News!
Naftogaz headquarters is being raided!
SkyNews: Security Agents Raid Ukraine Gas
Company HQ
Agents from Ukraine's national security service are raiding the headquarters of the country's natural gas company Naftogaz. Please visit the link provided for the complete story.
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reply posted on 4-3-2009 @ 01:42 PM by maloy
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Uh oh somebody in NaftoGaz forgot to give local politicians their fair share of the loot. Seriously though, knowing the level of corruption in
Ukraine and its top companies, it will not be hard for the government to pin some accussations against NaftoGaz and its executives if they so desire.
We can only "guess" which "politician" or political interest is behind this. It would be entertaining to watch if the same thing happens as
happened to YUKOS in Russia.
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reply posted on 4-3-2009 @ 02:34 PM by TeslaandLyne
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Jumping Jimminies.
That looks like a Mexican Drug Cartel Response Team instead of a
bunch of plumbers, to stop the leaks.
They also looks like the homeland security outfits needed after 911
to save Bushes credibility.
Well he never did have any one competent to think things out with.
Imagine a 911 discovery with Cheney who blocked air traffic.
I'm glad Rice came out and said we supported the freedom of the
Ukraine to steel. The Illuminati are against Russia and are not helping
America either. And Rice's statement proves it.
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reply posted on 19-5-2009 @ 05:46 PM by Hellmutt
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Check out these lyrics... (subtitled in english)
Russians mock the gas-dependence of Europe and Ukraine
"Should Ukraine will soon join NATO, we just will cut gas for Ukraine!
And in the night we`ll cut gaz to Europe!
So that we could cut the gas for everebody, just in case!" Thіs is words from "comic" song performed by Academic Ensemble of Moscow Military
District. The subs in this video are literal translation of comedy broadcasted on Russian Ren-TV on the 2th of January 2009.
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reply posted on 30-5-2009 @ 02:39 PM by TeslaandLyne
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How about a new pipeline around the Ukraine to solve
the problem of the Ukraine of having any equipment in
their hands.
That is an Illiminati solution.
I'm so proud of myself thinking of such a management solution.
Ukraine will be given bottled gas.
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reply posted on 3-6-2009 @ 09:58 PM by Hellmutt
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It can happen again!
New thread: Putin warns of gas shutdown to Europe if Ukraine fails to pay (by
maloy)
Russia's prime minister warned on Wednesday that natural gas pumped via Ukraine to Europe could be cut off by early July if Ukraine fails to
pay for its gas, and urged the EU to intervene. Please visit the link provided for the complete story.
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reply posted on 6-6-2009 @ 08:26 PM by Hellmutt
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Politics, gas and organised crime
The EU turns a blind eye...
EU turns blind eye to corruption in eastern gas trade
06.06.2009
The EU is sending a "fact-finding" mission to Ukraine to see if its financial troubles could lead to a new gas crisis. But it is wary of tackling
deeper problems of politics and corruption in the eastern gas trade, which also threaten EU energy security.
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Mr Putin and Ukraine Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko are at the same time trying to strong-arm Ukraine gas tycoon Dmitry Firtash, in developments
which highlight the links between politics, gas and organised crime in the region.
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The gas shake-up may have begun back in May 2008 with Moscow's arrest on tax fraud charges of alleged mafia boss Semion Mogilevich.
Mr Mogilevich is connected to big names in the gas trade.
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The European Commission has so far turned a deaf ear. In March, EU officials said they were "closely monitoring" Naftogaz' seizure of RUE's gas -
"closely monitoring" is a typical commission "holding statement" when it does not have a real position.
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"The European Commission has failed to recognise the danger these companies [RUE, RosGas or other alleged Gazprom offshoots] present to the energy
security of the EU and has not made any attempt to convince member states to investigate the role these companies play in the supply chain,"
Jamestown's Mr Kupchinsky said.
Click the link to read the full article...
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reply posted on 6-6-2009 @ 09:13 PM by maloy
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This skepticism by EU could indicate that they might not grant Ukraine the loan it needs to prepay for Russian gas imports in order to top up its
reserves. Indeed if they do grant Ukraine a multi-billion dollar loan, who knows what part of it would go to shady intermediary companies like
RosUkrEnergo or whatever offshoot company replaced it.
Clearly these intermediary firms create nothing but problems for the already troublesome gas industry. I am sure we don't even know half of what has
been going on behind the scenes during the last gas dispute - and that goes for both Ukrainian and Russian side. All matters of people (read
oligarchs and corrupt politicians) are lining their pockets from Ukrainian gas trade, and possibly from these disputes. The result is that Ukrainian
government has no money to pay off its gas debt, while the oligarchs are hording all of the money that should have went towards these payments.
Either way I completely understand EU on this matter. Ukrainian leadership is doing next to nothing to battle this corruption and outright theft, and
maybe can't really do anything with the likes of Yuschenko in power. But I admit that not much will change with either Timoshenko or Yanukovich -
simply the windfall profits will go to another group of oligarchs.
EU and Russia can only hope for speedy completion of Nord Stream. At least Germany can be counted on not being involved with shady intermediaries who
collect money for nothing.
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reply posted on 25-7-2009 @ 09:31 AM by TeslaandLyne
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www.russiatoday.ru...
The Orange Coalition in Ukraine has nominated Yulia Timoshenko for the post of Prime Minister. If approved, she will replace her main rival Viktor
Yanukovich as the head of government.
From main page:
www.russiatoday.ru...
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