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Voting of ATS-1 and BTS-1...

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posted on Dec, 30 2005 @ 07:05 AM
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Well, we have came a long way. Now it's time to choose wich two planes we want to start working with. Underneath I have put all planed that have entered in this "competition".

This is how the voting works

Post here the picture that you want to win

The voting will be simple, the model who gets most votes, wins.

Here are the nominies

Matej



Murmur


Role: 1

Size: 3B

unmanned

Cheap

I had an idea about a small fast drone/ucav that is very cheap and can be launched in large numbers by even very small nations to provide a good air defence against larger airforces.This ucav is small and very fast and agile, with 2 small forward gunpods and with top and bottom 'popup' Metalstorm turrets for anti missle/fighter defence.

Id make the frame from a titanium/aluminium alloy and the panels from carbon -nanotude fibre. Combined with a good radar capable of tracking multiple targets and a parachute for when it runs out of fuel i think it could even the odds when faced with enemy helicopters and bombers.


pennyforyourthoughts





I'm not really much into aircraft, so this is more like a normal fighter with a radar dish, extra fuel tanks and special paint to make it invisible to radars maybe.

ShatteredSkies

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Project "Raven" Specifications

Concept Role:Heavy, Long Range Air Superiority Fighter

Length:53 Feet
Width:36 Feet
Height:9 Feet

Engines:Two Pratt and Witney F-135-600's at above 40,000 lbs of thrust each
Performance:
Maximum Ceiling:80,000 Feet
Maximum Speed:Mach 2.2 Mach
Supercruise:Supercruise can be sustained anywhere from mach 1.2 to mach 1.4

Maximum Takeoff:approx. 82,000 lbs
Empty:32,500 lbs
Loaded:65,000 lbs

Range:2,250 nautical miles
Thrust/Weight:1.20

Armaments:
internal 1x 27mm Mauser cannon
internal 8x AIM-120C AMRAAM
Internal 4x AIM-9X Sidewinders
Bombs:4x External 500lbs JDAMs on 4 Hardpoints
External Fuel: 2 External Fuel tanks
6x External Hardpoints that can hold 3,500 lbs each
Internal Weapon's Bay Capacity:12,500 lbs

This is not a in no way shape or form a pure stealth aircraft, this aircraft has many limitations that prevent it from being so, only a few stealth features exist on this aircraft.

Inexpensive answer to an advanced, heavy air superiority fighter. Projected cost:37 million per unit

Will post possible configurations later.




Sea Snake

I call this Concept 03 or Project "Sea Snake"

so far this is the top view of the aircraft, I haven't gotten around to the other views. Here is the Reference to the Numbers.

1)canopy
2)FSW Switchblad Wings
3)Flaps
4)elevators
5)Nav Beacon/ Taxi Beacon
6)Ailerons
7)Internal gun Cannon
8)Landing Beacons/Takeoff Beacons/Strobe Lights
9)Intake
10)3 Dimensional Thrust Vectoring Nozzels


planeman



The idea is to combine S-STOL (Super-Short Take-Off and Landing) with air-superiority fighter performance; allowing it to operate from roads to a greater extent than existing equivalent types. This would make it far more survivable if the enemy attempted to attack your airbases. The S-STOL concept allows the aircraft to be far larger (carrying more weapons) than an equivalent powered vertical take-off and landing design (F-35, Harrier, Forger etc). The layout is also inherently super-agile at slower speeds.

The layout also lends itself to low Radar Cross-Section (RCS) with the canted tail surfaces, Thrust Vector Control (TVC) and sloping fuselage –its RCS is likely to be less than the F16’s, particularly from a side aspect.

Another key feature is that the weapons are carried internally in a wide bay between the engines. A typical load would be 6 long range missiles and two dogfight missiles. The forward fuselage has ample space for AESA radar and IRST sensors.

Provisional specification
Weapons: 8 internal hardpoints for any mix of long range (Meteor), medium range (AMRAAM, Derby, R-Darter, MICA-EM) or short range (ARSAAM, IRIS-T, Python-5 or AIM-9X missiles).
Speed: Mach 2
Stealth: Good
Agility: Super-agile at subsonic speeds
Powerplant: 2 x Eurojet EJ200 with 20,000lb st (same as Eurofighter)
Key characteristic: S-STOL performance




theshadowknows



monsterhook

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chinabean





Northwolf









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posted on Dec, 30 2005 @ 07:08 AM
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This is my vote.



posted on Dec, 30 2005 @ 07:10 AM
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It's a toss up for me. I like Matej's design, and the Titan by Monsterhook the best. I think I'd go with the Titan for my vote, simply because I like tailed designs.



posted on Dec, 30 2005 @ 07:18 AM
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Exxelent... Keep voting my friends...



posted on Dec, 30 2005 @ 07:23 AM
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I vote Matej, I absolutely love that whole Heinkel wing concept and think it would work superbly with a modern FBW system,



posted on Dec, 30 2005 @ 08:00 AM
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ATS - ShatteredSkies Raven concept.

BTS - Planemans jet trainer.


Before you vote please give some consideration about how you are going to develop the design - does anyone here know any evaulation methods for impulse jets? For forward swept wing/wing root structures - internal fuel volume? for tail-less control techniques and implementations?


It is all very good having a superb idea and lovely drawing, but if all we can do is look at it and say, "that's nice", there is little point to the whole project.


[edit on 30-12-2005 by kilcoo316]



posted on Dec, 30 2005 @ 08:04 AM
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ATS- Shatteredskies Raven

BTS -Planeman's- provided we do a ground attack version as well.





posted on Dec, 30 2005 @ 09:07 AM
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I like the first more ambitious concepts by plain man. the one with the canards and delta wing. The picture says ats1 stol concept

[edit on 12/30/05 by TristanBW9456]



posted on Dec, 30 2005 @ 09:08 AM
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ATS-1 Design:Mine of Course
(Project Raven)
BTS-1 Design
laneman's Basic Fighter



Shattered OUT...



posted on Dec, 30 2005 @ 09:11 AM
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This is my vote also ATS 1
But with thrust vectoring if possible

[edit on 30-12-2005 by Jezza]



posted on Dec, 30 2005 @ 09:13 AM
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Any suggestions on the BTS plane Jezza...??

[edit on 30-12-2005 by Figher Master FIN]



posted on Dec, 30 2005 @ 09:18 AM
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This is my vote also BTS 1



posted on Dec, 30 2005 @ 09:33 AM
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ATS-1: Northworlf
BTS-1: Planeman

[edit on 30-12-2005 by WERE_ALL_GONA_DIE]



posted on Dec, 30 2005 @ 01:26 PM
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ATS-1 Shattered Skies
BTS-1 Planeman



posted on Dec, 30 2005 @ 09:04 PM
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I know this isn't really the place but could someone please revive the designing the ats-1 thread. I have some things to add.



posted on Dec, 30 2005 @ 11:02 PM
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ATS-1: ShatteredSkies' Raven

good work guys, some nice designs up there.

--Kit.



posted on Jan, 10 2006 @ 10:22 AM
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I have now decided to end the voting...

ATS-1

Matej 2 votes

planeman 3 votes

ShatteredSkies 5 votes

Northwolf 1 vote

THE WINNER IS ShatteredSkies


BTS-1

planeman 7 votes

THE WINNER IS planeman

Now, the winners may create their own threads, and decide what they want to do with they designs. You can search for members to help you to create 3D models etc etc. GOOD LUCK...



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