I think the only thing I could say in answer to that is "blind faith". How often have you heard of ridiculous beliefs, actions, and overall
consequences that resulted from nothing short of that very thing. It is inexplicably vague, but yet answers any question. To those that would put
forth the all encompasing "why", the answer is stated as "faith". It dictates everything and is and has been the driving force for most of the
worlds population for thousands of years. There is not any conclusive evidence for Atlantis, there is only a people's firm belief that it is real.
This is no different from Heaven, Sheol, or any other world that people will argue into existence. To say that Atlantis does not exist will always be
met with a cold shoulder. Many are intrigued by the concept on both sides, but then many are too stubborn to see around their faith. You just can't
argue against faith. I've tried. Sound as any argument may be, it will never succeed. Reason inevitably fails in the face of blind faith.
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reply posted on 8-5-2006 @ 08:20 AM by St Udio
Originally posted by TruthSeeker99
We're here searching for this mysterious place and I was wondering what cause everyone in the whole world to theorize about this land?
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Just today, 8 May 2006,
there is this interesting picture link
there is a mirage off the coast, which seems to indicate land in the misty distance...and as the sun rises the misty foreign land disappears.
here off the east coast, i have witnessed these fog banks before, and imagined such magical, mystical lands of imagination...
who's to say that our distant ancestors had tales & stories originate from their own eras 'AESOP' or 'BROTHERs GRIMM' counterparts?
and the folklore tale of Atlantis gained stature & longevity...eventually finding a PLATO, at the height of the Greek Golden Age, to immorialize the epic myth?
reply posted on 16-5-2006 @ 10:28 AM by Byrd
Originally posted by Malacalypse23
I can get more information if anybody is interested. It's a fairly creative story, but then again truth is ofte stranger than fiction, isn't it!
In this case, it's "drugs are often stranger than fiction."
Wilson was doing a humorous examination of how Americans believe some fairly absurd things and throw them into conspiracy theories. His objective was a type of mind games play with his reading public:
en.wikipedia.org...
This, by the way, is well documented by Wilson himself and by many many others. The Illuminati Trilogy is science fiction and parody.
It's not true.
www.nndb.com...
Here's an interview with Wilson. He mentions the books are "novels" (fiction) and goes on about several interesting things:
www.nii.net...
reply posted on 31-5-2006 @ 04:59 PM by EdenKaia
Hellanicus Record Index
Here is the catalogue information to the Princeton Library where the manuscript of "Atlantis" is being kept. I believe it is only about twenty lines or so. Anyway, it mentions a King calld Atland who had seven daughters. These daughters are interrpreted to be the seven islands of the central Kingdom continent. On the link above, you can actually read the fragment, but its in Latin, and I can't seem to find a decent translator that can do the work. If anyone else out there already has the software bought and paid for, I, for one, would love to see the actual work without having to go all the way to Princeton.
Here is the catalogue information to the Princeton Library where the manuscript of "Atlantis" is being kept. I believe it is only about twenty lines or so. Anyway, it mentions a King calld Atland who had seven daughters. These daughters are interrpreted to be the seven islands of the central Kingdom continent. On the link above, you can actually read the fragment, but its in Latin, and I can't seem to find a decent translator that can do the work. If anyone else out there already has the software bought and paid for, I, for one, would love to see the actual work without having to go all the way to Princeton.
reply posted on 31-5-2006 @ 05:15 PM by EdenKaia
Originally posted by faculae
Sorry if I wasn't clear.
The point I am making is that Plato used allegories to tell stories. He almost exclusively used metaphor. You are supporting my claim in referencing his 'Republic.' The Atlantis mention in the Timeas or the Criteas is 99.9999% most likely completely made up. It may, in some remote way, resemble an anecdote that was circulating at the time. He possibly wrote about it as a means of proving that the ill-informed reader will often adopt perceived beliefs with little to know cross reference and will later adopt those notions as fact. Religion works the same way, so does government and the sensation of nationalism within its citizenship. It is in complete keeping with Plato's M.O. Further to discount his understanding of mass appeal, manipulation and politics would be to disassemble present day gov't. Gov'ts which are almost entirely founded on his ideals.
Otherwise to assume he wrote down a story verbatim that he heard elsewhere belittles his ability as a philosopher. To do so makes him nothing more that a traveling storyteller.
I think that Plato, more elegantly, used existing concepts and then built on them to create a false history as an experiment in the frailty of the human mind. I believe it is a private satire on religion and myth, a concept that he most certainly battled with himself. It was a way of seeing if people will believe something without any additional backing. And more importantly how and why that happens.
Its obvious after several thousand years that the answer is a glaring, "YES THEY WILL." The inertia of the Atlantis paradigm is to much to stop at this point. The romance is too grand. Its here to stay ... for a long time.
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The only thing I can say in response to these statements is to read the following link. It pretty much sums up everything that I was wanting to say in response to this.
?Argument of Plato's Atlantis being REAL, not an allegory or attempt at a psychological test
Plato was a man. A philosopher, but also just a man. Why do we constantly have to place him on this eternal philosopher's pedestal? What is wrong with reciting a history? To do so does not belittle your reputation, nor does it make you
nothing more than a traveling storyteller. The history of Atlantis is an interesting one, why not tell it? If you think about it on a philisophical level anyway, the story is full of sound moral advice for potential superpowers and the concept of war. Seems like a stable topic to me.
reply posted on 31-5-2006 @ 05:47 PM by Byrd
Originally posted by EdenKaia
Hellanicus Record Index
Here is the catalogue information to the Princeton Library where the manuscript of "Atlantis" is being kept. I believe it is only about twenty lines or so. Anyway, it mentions a King calld Atland who had seven daughters. These daughters are interrpreted to be the seven islands of the central Kingdom continent. On the link above, you can actually read the fragment, but its in Latin, and I can't seem to find a decent translator that can do the work. If anyone else out there already has the software bought and paid for, I, for one, would love to see the actual work without having to go all the way to Princeton.
It's in Greek, actually, and only the bottom fragment is the one. It's in cursive Greek, at that... I have bad handwriting, but this one needs practice to read.
