WAR: Israeli Jets Attack Lebanese Militant Base in Retaliation for Attacks on Israeli City., page 1
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Topic started on 29-12-2005 @ 12:42 AM by Muaddib
Israeli jets attacked a Lebanese militant base in retaliation for the rocket attacks on an Israeli border town which was attacked hours before the Israeli retaliation. The base is operated by the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine-General Command, which is a Syrian backed group which has attacked Israel for a decade. The base is located south of Beirut. There are no reports of casualties.




news.yahoo.com
"This is in response to the firing of projectile rockets last night toward Israeli communities," the military said.

It said it views such attacks with "extreme severity" and holds Lebanon responsible.

Witnesses reported warplanes roared over the PFLP-GC guerrilla base at Naameh, a hilltop base overlooking the Mediterranean seven kilometres south of Beirut, and the sound of two booms were heard.




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This latest attack by the Israeli military was justified imo, but i know there will be people who will try to exagerate and use this as an excuse for more anti-Israeli bashing.

[edit on 29-12-2005 by Muaddib]


reply posted on 30-12-2005 @ 02:58 AM by Thomas Crowne
Originally posted by truthseeka


I LOVE it how everyone who's against Israel is called militants in the media. Poor Israel, always being targeted by everyone. That is, only when they've done nothing wrong. But, when they bomb a US ship and blame it on Egypt, they're not criticised. In the media, at least.


Ok, Truthseeka, let's see if you really believe your name fits you.

You claim that Israel bombed an U.S. ship. In this assertion, I must assume you are refering to the U.S.S. Liberty. If this is the case, let us review some facts of the case.

First, let us remember that Israel had asked us if we had any ships in the area, and we said no. This mistake was ours.
Secondly, let me point out that the ship was cruising at 30 knots, and because of that, it was assumed to be a warship. As we had told them that we had no warships in the area, there was no reason for the pilots to think it was ours.
A rthird thing to consider was the sea was colm that day, and the flag was very likely not viewable bythe pilot of a fast-mover. Also, the U.S. Navy Court of Enquiry determined that the staff was knocked down after the first or second assault. This made it impossible for the torpedo boats to recognize the Liberty as an U.S. ship, rather than the Egyptian vessel it resembled, the El Quseir. As a matter of fact, the U.S. sailors, naturally, began to return fire in defense. The torpedo boats reported that the ship was an Egyptian vessel. Again, with all the intelligence, the fact that the ship was moving at a cruise speed that it was understood that would be the speed of a warship (both the U.S. and Israel recognized this), that we had said we had no ship within hundreds of miles of the battlefront although the Liberty was 14 miles off the coast, and that we returned fire (sure, in self defense, but still, gave the Israelis another reason to think we were the enemy), why would they assume anything else?
Ten U.S. investigations and three Israeli investigations have all come to the same conclusion; the attack was a horrible case of friendly fire.

As these things be the facts, you please tell me, how is it that the Israelis are the ones who tried to blame the Egyptians? Your assertion is not consistent with the facts, but is typical with non-factual conspiracies against a small nation who is trying to exist in a world that has proven to be nothing but hateful to her.


reply posted on 30-12-2005 @ 06:09 AM by bodrul
Originally posted by Muaddib
Originally posted by bodrul

the scum are the people who are clouded by the judgement
if the Israeli's do commit a crime they are accountible for it and using what the nazi's did to jews is just pathetic and in my view a horid way to use the deaths of over million to further their goals


What crime are you talking about?.... The Israelis attacked a militant base which was used to fire rockets into an Israeli border town, how is that a crime?....

Originally posted by bodrul
so again people who always jump to israels deffence are sometimes scum


Keep the insults out of this discussion, otherwise stay out of the topic please.


Originally posted by bodrul
also on topic the ares's that the people attack are area's that dont belong to israel but occupied area's which belong to syria/leboneon
so they have all the right to launch attacks in those area's


So now the Palestinians have a right to attack Israel and Israel can't respond to those attacks?......


Originally posted by bodrul
or is it wronge to fight for your home and so on?


That's what the Israelis did....they shot back at the base that attacked an Israeli border town...


Originally posted by bodrul
edit: also my ref to america is because of the reactions of the americans on this board. (aka a large minority are)


What in the world are you talking about?....


are
first read my reply again
i said i was reffering to lebenon and syrian areas which occupied
Palistainain area's are a diffrent convo

secoundly if isreal strike someone they also have a right to defend them selves

and thirdly disagreeing with israel is not Israel bashing
maybe if i started saying destroy and israel and so on like most people here say nuke mecca.

just pathetic


edit: some corrections and reply to last comment
most of the users here are american so their view comes from what they read from the media
i said it because if it was an american ally or someone sponserd by the US the view would be diffrent

[edit on 30-12-2005 by bodrul]


reply posted on 30-12-2005 @ 10:14 PM by Muaddib
Originally posted by bodrul

...........
secoundly if isreal strike someone they also have a right to defend them selves


Oh I see. So if Israel is attacked and Israel retaliates because of that attack, it is ok for the militants to attack Israeli civilians again....


Originally posted by bodrul
and thirdly disagreeing with israel is not Israel bashing
maybe if i started saying destroy and israel and so on like most people here say nuke mecca.

just pathetic


First of all....who in here has said anything about nuking mecca?..... Could you please provide proof that any of us here were asking to "nuke mecca"?....

Second, what you have been saying is that Israel has no right in shooting back at those bases which attacked an Israeli "civilian" town, but the militants are right in attacking Israel again... That's what I read in your responses in this thread. To me, that's Israel bashing.



Originally posted by bodrul
edit: some corrections and reply to last comment
most of the users here are american so their view comes from what they read from the media
i said it because if it was an american ally or someone sponserd by the US the view would be diffrent

[edit on 30-12-2005 by bodrul]


Actually we have members from all over the world, there is no way to know for certain "that most users here are American." In fact i believe the contrary, most members are not Americans.

Second, whether al jazeera , CNN, or FOX NEWS reports this, the Palestinian base attacked the Israeli town first, a civilian town, then the Israeli government attacked the base. Israel is in their right to defend themselves. As Thomas Crowne says, Israel is not initiating any attacks, it is defending their population against those who only goal is to have Israel destroyed.

[edit on 30-12-2005 by Muaddib]


reply posted on 31-12-2005 @ 05:28 AM by bodrul
Originally posted by Muaddib
Oh I see. So if Israel is attacked and Israel retaliates because of that attack, it is ok for the militants to attack Israeli civilians again....


apart from the fact that they are the ones in the wronge by occupying areas from 2 nations
only the US and Israel see them as militants/terrorists
and most attacks on done on occupied areas


First of all....who in here has said anything about nuking mecca?..... Could you please provide proof that any of us here were asking to "nuke mecca"?....

Second, what you have been saying is that Israel has no right in shooting back at those bases which attacked an Israeli "civilian" town, but the militants are right in attacking Israel again... That's what I read in your responses in this thread. To me, that's Israel bashing.


you should really read the TWAT area more
place seems to be fruiting with these topics (Muslims evil,Destroy mecca and so forth)
just go there and read through it

secondly i didnt say they didnt have any right to shoot back i said the other side also had the right to shoot back
since they are fighting to get their land bank





Actually we have members from all over the world, there is no way to know for certain "that most users here are American." In fact i believe the contrary, most members are not Americans.

Second, whether al jazeera , CNN, or FOX NEWS reports this, the Palestinian base attacked the Israeli town first, a civilian town, then the Israeli government attacked the base. Israel is in their right to defend themselves. As Thomas Crowne says, Israel is not initiating any attacks, it is defending their population against those who only goal is to have Israel destroyed.

[edit on 30-12-2005 by Muaddib]


by building more into other peoples land and destroying farms/homes they very well are initiating any attacks.
during the last 5 years they have destroyed over 6000+buildings and made thousends homeless
they have killed/wounded Thousends of people trying to target a few
they punish the mass for the few

so yeah they are in the wronge

secondly most members that i have seen replys from are from the US
and a Map on ATS shows that in BTS


reply posted on 31-12-2005 @ 06:51 AM by Riwka
I think you completely missed that Lebanon's Prime Minister Fuad Saniora condemned the rocket attack and said his government would catch the perpetrators to make sure it did not happen again.

Also, on Friday army engineers in south Lebanon dismantled two rockets mounted for firing at Israel. Don't you think that suggested Lebanon was exerting greater control over its border area?

Third, El-Qaeda in Iraq claims responsibility for launching these Katyusha rockets at Israel

They published this on a website:




Al-Qaeda in Iraq claims rocket strike on northern Israeli city

"A group of al-Qaeda lions planned ... a new attack on the Jewish state," the al-Qaeda statement said. "The brothers accomplished their mission as it was planned and succeeded in their escape."

It said the al-Qaeda fighters fired 10 rockets into northern Israel.


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