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Why do religious people hate gays?

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posted on Dec, 31 2005 @ 12:56 PM
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If gaybashing and murdering someone because they are gay is not a 'hate crime', I don't know what is.
Gays are normal, they are not 'wrong'. It is not up to others to decide for them that they should change. They aren't bothering you, are they? Live and let live. I pray that someday gay couples who wish to marry receive every legal benefit and right as straight couples. Discrimination against them is, imho, unfair. God bless gays, and keep them safe. Amen




posted on Dec, 31 2005 @ 02:54 PM
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Originally posted by BlackGuardXIII
If gaybashing and murdering someone because they are gay is not a 'hate crime', I don't know what is.


Oh so every Christian "gaybashes" and Murders gays?

The U.S. Congress defined in 1992 a hate crime as a crime in which "the defendant's conduct was motivated by hatred, bias, or prejudice, based on the actual or perceived race, color, religion, national origin, ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation or gender identity of another individual or group of individuals" (HR 4797). In 1994, the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act added disabilities to the above list.

It is very difficult to prove that a hate crime actaully occured and often those that are accused of hate crime, end up just being tried for the acutal Violent crime instead.

Hypothetically, If i went out and shot a random person on the street, and if that person turned out to be gay there would be many Pro-gay groups who would immidiatly get on the "Hate crime" bandwagon (something like that actully happened her in wisconsin) regardless if it was random or not, jsut forthe chance to publicze how thier sexual orintation is being repressed and attacked, just to gain more sympathy



posted on Dec, 31 2005 @ 07:08 PM
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'It is very difficult to prove that a hate crime actaully occured and often those that are accused of hate crime, end up just being tried for the acutal Violent crime instead. '
Everybody is their own person. I doubt that matters to the dead gay man. In this area, fairly regularly, a gay man is beaten to death, by a gang of young bullies, in a area that is a wellknown gay hangout. If that murder was not a hatecrime, what does it matter? What exactly are you supporting or defending?
And I did not say all Christians kill gays, the gay Christians definitely do not. And most Christians I know respect other adults right to choose a partner, period.



posted on Jan, 2 2006 @ 11:27 AM
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I am saying the term"Hate crimes" especailyl when directed at Gays are mostly nothing more then assumptions by Pro-gay groups and an extrmeme stance they take to gain sympathy for thier cause. Most people who are accused of hate crimes, never get actaulyl punished for a hate crime, instead are punished just for the violant crime itself since it is so difficult to prove that predjudice was a deciding factor in the violant crime.

You might want to read up on the actauly laws concerning hate crimes, it might clear the confusion.

The topic is "Why do religious people HATE gays" and as i said before, it is the gays who are thinking they are hated by religious people, when the truth is very differant and far moderate then they are willing to belive



posted on Jan, 2 2006 @ 11:55 PM
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Originally posted by Jehosephat
I am saying the term"Hate crimes" especailyl when directed at Gays are mostly nothing more then assumptions by Pro-gay groups and an extrmeme stance they take to gain sympathy for thier cause. You might want to read up on the actauly laws concerning hate crimes, it might clear the confusion.
The topic is "Why do religious people HATE gays" and as i said before, it is the gays who are thinking they are hated by religious people, when the truth is very differant.

I feel that most gays, seeing Christians call them perverts, and deviants, living an abnormal, unnatural, immoral, abomination of a lifestyle, which will damn them to hell, decide that means they are hated by the Christians.
The good intentioned attempts at 'saving' them, though not done out of hate, may be seen as being hate. The actual laws regarding the subject are, I agree, impotent. Sadly, the murder victims whose only crime was to love the 'wrong' sex are dead either way, and therefore can't testify as to the actual details of their attack.



posted on Jan, 3 2006 @ 12:40 AM
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Why do religious people hate gays?


Because some "religious" people hate. And if they choose to hate, then there has to be something to hate. But, i still like my first contribution to this thread better.



posted on Jan, 3 2006 @ 08:05 PM
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Hmmm. Are hermaphrodites hated because they are gay no matter what they do, or are they embraced for being straight no matter what? What if they only like other hermaphrodites?

Reality has a nasty habit of breaking through black and white thinking.



posted on Jan, 3 2006 @ 08:32 PM
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Originally posted by spamandham
Hmmm. Are hermaphrodites hated because they are gay no matter what they do, ... . . . . ...


Good point Spam



posted on Jan, 3 2006 @ 08:37 PM
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Originally posted by BlackGuardXIII
I feel that most gays, seeing Christians call them perverts, and deviants, living an abnormal, unnatural, immoral, abomination of a lifestyle, which will damn them to hell, decide that means they are hated by the Christians.
The good intentioned attempts at 'saving' them, though not done out of hate, may be seen as being hate.


Again, I dont know many christians that take such an Extreme stance. Most Chrisitans I know do nothing more then explain how thier behavior is immoral to God, and thier chances of reaching heaven under Gods law are slim, unless they repent. it is nothing more then a message of love that the Christian's also want to see see those that live in a life of sin can be forgiven and attain salvation.

THose that Judge gays and say with an absolute statement "Gays are going to hell" I would be hard pressed to call them Christians.

Again, I say don't look at the extremeists and base your opinion on the whole because of thsoe extrmists (on both sides) but looks to those who are more moderate and reach an understanding.

Spam, thank you for the tangent :bnghd:

from the wiki

Gonadal dysgenesis, a type of intersexuality formerly known as "True Hermaphroditism", occurs in about one percent of mammals (including humans), but it is extremely rare for both sets of sexual organs to be functional, usually neither set is functional. In many cases, these manifestations are altered, sometimes only cosmetically, to resemble standard male or female anatomy shortly after birth.

Intersexual individuals are treated in different ways by different cultures. In some cultures intersexuals were included in larger "third gender" or gender-blending social roles along with other individuals. In most societies, intersexed individuals have been expected to select one sex, and conform to its gender role.

Since the rise of modern medical science in Western societies, intersexuals with ambiguous external genitalia have had their genitalia surgically modified to resemble either male or female genitals.


So it is moot point when dealing with maybe 1 cases in the whole world every 10 years, especailyl when most never mature, or end up taking a specific gender role to conform with society



posted on Jan, 3 2006 @ 08:50 PM
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By trying to 'save' them from their life of sin, you are stating that they are not normal. I accept them as they are, no change required to be saved as far as I am concerned. It is each of our choice to live how we feel is best. The decision is not ever going to be anyone elses. If someone is gay, good for them, I accept that. I'm not gay, but thats me. Christians are not the enemy here though, I must add that homophobia seems to be found in all people. Atheists are probable just as likely to hate gays. I wish that they would be just allowed to be who they are, and being gay was like being heterosexual, no one taking any notice of it. It should be a non-issue.



posted on Mar, 22 2006 @ 05:54 AM
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[edit on 22-3-2006 by TantricWolf]



posted on Mar, 22 2006 @ 03:00 PM
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From what I have gathered with my experainces in talking with homosexuals, is that accepting a gay lifestyle allows them to become more sexually active. Yes, it is a lot easier to please a person who has the same parts as you and the same thought processes. - Jehosephat


This may be an older thread but I thought this bit of info pertinent...

Your experiences are termed “By Default Myth”; it is a false belief, or theory, that people become homosexuals because they were unsuccessful in heterosexual relationships; unable to attract a mate of the opposite sex or that they had an unpleasant or traumatic sexual heterosexual experience.

Psychologists and psychiatrists debunked “By Default Myth” just about the same time they pulled their heads out and removed homosexuality from the DSMV. Homosexuality is not a choice, though there are those who chose to deny who they are in the name of whatever reason, however, it does not, in the end, alter their natural sexual orientation. Homosexuality is a genetic predisposition that begins in the earliest stages of fetus development no different than hair, eye or skin color.


TantricWolf



posted on Mar, 22 2006 @ 03:06 PM
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Because their God says they are all loving and caring, but the religous leaders scream and yell KILL! KILL! KILL! KILL Them All! KILL!!!!!! KILL!!!! KILL!!!!!!!!!

Thankfully my Minister is a good man who doesn't do this. If God is all loving, if Jesus died for our sins, he died for all of our sins, he didn't pick and choose. He didn't go "Hmm, they are black so I didn't die for them, they are gay so I didn't die for them, I didn't die for those women because they want jobs outside of the house." As my Minister puts it.



posted on Mar, 23 2006 @ 10:01 PM
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Umm...

I've read in the Bible that you are supposed to stone gay men to death. And, if the Bible is the word of God, then God wants a good Christian to slaughter any gays they come across.

The saddest thing is that it's ok for religious people to be homophobic.



posted on Mar, 24 2006 @ 01:07 AM
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Originally posted by truthseeka
Umm...

I've read in the Bible that you are supposed to stone gay men to death. And, if the Bible is the word of God, then God wants a good Christian to slaughter any gays they come across.

The saddest thing is that it's ok for religious people to be homophobic.


Your applying hate and fear, where there is none and being too judgemental and extreme to benifit your side. it is only the extremes like Phelps who say "God hates gays" when a vast majority of Christians only would say that being a homosexuality is wrong and displeasing to God. Judgement is allways left to God, and not the followers. In actaullyity we are tryingh to HELP you arrive in heaven, and not fall into the pits of hell.

and there is nothing in the bible saying it is okay to stone gays. stoning is reserved for blasphemers, and only in the old testement which is covered in Jewish cultural law, and has no place in New Testement Law and Gospel



posted on Apr, 1 2006 @ 01:07 AM
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I find the current promotion of homosexuality to be rather odd in its assertiveness.



posted on Apr, 1 2006 @ 01:42 AM
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all i have to post is the same answer that i posted about muslims and americans. it goews for gays and christians, also.


it is a part of human nature: people hate that what they do not understand.
and what people hate, they try to destroy.



posted on Apr, 1 2006 @ 06:01 AM
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Judgement is allways left to God, and not the followers.


13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

16 Who will rise up for me against the evildoers? or who will stand up for me against the workers of iniquity?

Then again, god also hate's figs using similar verses to these lmao!

www.godhatesfigs.com...

People will just twist the bible for their own purposes no matter what you say. They're not true believer's, none of them. They're just people who learned that the bible is a pretty damn usefull hate crime tool. Look at it's history!



posted on Apr, 1 2006 @ 09:07 AM
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But I, like many perhaps, whether "religious" or not, do not "agree" with the act of being homosexual. That's just me though, perhaps my lack of undrestanding, perhaps just my lack of reasoning. I personally don't think it is appropriate to have "relations" with someone of the same sex, just as I don't think it is appropriate to have relations with an animal or child or someone who does not want to "do it".

Do I think that these particular people above are hopeless? No. I believe that we all walk out our salvation and it isn't for me or you or some Christian/Religious group to decide whether certain people enter into the Kingdom of God or not.

One of the main things I've heard from preachers/pastors is fear of losing that unity in family. And not that I condone homosexuality, but the unity is being lost even without gay people in the world today. Maybe that's all part of the plan, who knows.



posted on Apr, 1 2006 @ 09:29 AM
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Why do religious people hate gays?


Religious people
hate gays because religious people
don't think for themselves. Religious people
let the Bible, their faith, and their church think for them. Religious people
regurgitate what they are told.

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