Originally posted by m0rbid

Originally posted by Lysergic
5 pts for the mullet.

MUHAHAHAHAHAHHAhahahaha...

I think most of his ideas sounds possible, some more probable than others, but I really think he made the lizard story when high on crack or somehting. I don't believe the lizard and hollow earth parts at all.

I don't like to discount anything, but the lack of evidence with both of these is the thing that leads to disbelief even in people who are interested in the kind of subjects that are covered on sites like this, never mind the common joe who trust their governments and authorities.

There was one thing I read in one of his books about the hollow earth theory, I don't have the book at hand, but it was about a newspaper report about a pilot who flew into one of the proposed polar holes (I think it was the North Pole).

And I've read lots of things about underground networks all over the world.

Of course, there's a difference between caverns and tunnels, and an inner land with plants, life and an inner sun (would it ever be night time in such a place I wonder?)

The lizard issue is the other biggie.

The way he explains it is that the ruling bloodlines are reptilian decendants of the Annunaki (I don't recall if David Icke subscribes to the Planet X theory).

Continuing the bloodlines through breeding ensures that their children can be possessed by the lower 4th dimension lizards who are in possession, or contact with them. This covers the divine right to rule of kings and queens.

Reading that back, it would probably make a fantastic sci-fi film.

Are there any other reseachers/writers who also talk about this reptile issue? David Icke seems to be the most vocal, and I'm not sure if I've seen any other people write about it.

I think the term "reptile" is code for serpent (followers of satan), fallen angels, giants, nephilim. The Bible mentions and points to their orgins and ours.

check this site:
www.mt.net/~watcher/

Oh come on! what a bunch o crap. Spend 5 minutes on his web site. After the first 4 where you try to sift past all the advertisements for his books and lectures that he is trying to sell you can read some of his crap.

He gains his knowledge by channeling a spirit. i.e. Edgar Cayce.

He makes great predictions. like after an attack there will be a retribution attack. Wow you think how perceptive.

There will be celebrities who pretend to do good for the world through great charity. Hmmmm of all the people with money some will try to give some away. No way that isn't possible?

Everyone in power through either politics or celebrity standing is bad bad bad. evil lizard possessed bad that are out to brainwash and enslave you.

This guy may do some good in that he says all the war and fighting is a smoke screen that should be stopped. Then again he could be dangerous in how many of you paranoid schizophrenics ?spelling? (most readers of this web-site) start believing him and some loon is going to shoot someone to stop the "evil oppressors".

I love how people debunk his "outliandish" ideas without a shred of proof. I admit he has a lot of theories of which his evidence is circumstantial to say the least.

I admire him more for standing up and being counted!

If he's wrong - so bit. But....what if he's right? It's amusing that most people when they hear the name "Icke" think "nutcase" - but why is this? It's primarily (and this is for people who have never read any of his stuff) becasue the media tells them he's a nutter.

I think he's facing a great deal of persecution for saying what he believes. I, for one, will not add to that derision as I believe he's justified in his beliefs (in that he BELIEVES them).

Threw my own reserch I have confirmed much of his information. But saying that, he leaves out one of the more importaint subjects. Makes me wonder.......

had a brief look at your website Mr all seeing eye and if your research into Freemasonry is as false as everything else you didnt do your research very well. can you say how your research was carried out or was it just a case of tour anti-freemasonry sites to back up your own prejudices.

As for David Ike, get real, what a load of codswallop he spouts...

Icke is legit but too socialistic for me. He thinks like all socialists do btw that if he ran the world he could solve all our problems with his 'system.'

Otherwise he has been a brave and fearless fighter for the cause of disclosure of the 'big picture' IMHO.

Icke is an atrocious writer. In his "Children of the Matrix" (ANOTHER conspiracy seller who rips off the movie the Matrix in a book and his self-aggrandizing website) he interchanges the word "entomological" with "etymological", not knowing the difference between the two.

As for his theories about reptilians, it's obvious that he interprets myths literally and laps up the tales of any fruit who comes up to him and say they saw people change into reptiles. I've listened to a tape of his interview with Arizona Wilder, and to me it was obvious she was lying just by the amount of time she was hesitating when answering his questions.

Most of the serious stuff he writes about is plagiarized from other authors like Springmeier and John Coleman. The difference is that these people don't tour around the world and charge $75 for them to talk about it.

[Edited on 21-11-2003 by Helioform]

Originally posted by Helioform


As for his theories about reptilians, it's obvious that he interprets myths literally..... I've listened to a tape of his interview with Arizona Wilder, and to me....

Most of the serious stuff he writes about is plagiarized from other authors like Springmeier and John Coleman. The difference is that these people don't tour around the world and charge $75 for them to talk about it.

[Edited on 21-11-2003 by Helioform]

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i can appreciate your scorn Helioform...but...
Plagerizing is a Strong Characterization....

You are aware of the 100th monkey principle, yes?
Where--> different peoples in far flung lands or endeavors may SUDDENLY experience a Epiphany Moment, an Enlightenment explosion in the
brain...EUREKA !...the history is full of simeotaneous 'revelations' & theories being expressed by several people at the same time....that is the 100th monkey principle at work here!!
the Gnosis, Spirit Realm, universal sub-conscious. just POPs these thought-forms into Whom-Ever is 'Receptive'---> all that legal stuff, patent & copyright & claim to Discovery, et al...is grist for the mill of time.
The 'important' thing is the new revelation is out-there and public->> for the greater good of humanity at large!

2dPoint: me thinks this Icke has a jumbled confusion of inputs>>> his reptile masters, secret/occult society is a construct of...intelligent cellular-communication gone hay-wire, The reptile nature is in all humans, as the Limbic Region of our brain attests...just a cursery scan of info about the human brain will answer many/all of D.I. fantastic fantasy construct of the reptilian programme. TRY: www.medlineplus or any other info source, go to GOOGLE>LIMBIC etc

the 2d Point: is not directed to Helioform !
it is intended for anyone wanting views on Icke mindrealm...
the above opinions are my POV, subjective jargon, enjoy your journey

Originally posted by Gazrok
Just curious to see what my fellow conspirators think of Mr. Icke.

I don't find him very credible. On the other hand, he's a great sourcebook for fantasy scenarios for RPGs.

Originally posted by Shaitan
If he's wrong - so bit. But....what if he's right? It's amusing that most people when they hear the name "Icke" think "nutcase" - but why is this? It's primarily (and this is for people who have never read any of his stuff) becasue the media tells them he's a nutter.

Noooo... it's because many of us have READ his stuff. And some of us have tried to verify it.

The insurmountable obstacle for me is shape-shifting. Totally outside the boundaries of known science, no physical evidence - deep into "Get real" country here.

while i find the whole thing about the shapeshifting reptillians a bit far fetched (ya never know though, i stongly believe that anything is possible in this universe) i find his books to be very interesting and informative.

The lizards are real, and they are everywhere. Icke is their puppet performing some political manouvers for them.

The lizards are harmless creative beings, who also know about survival in the primal mud. Let them be and you'll see they put on a good show.

I'm not saying they're saints or anything like that, but they have a right to survive just as all homonids do.

Hell, us westerners are devils to some cultures and are given the look of death.

Icke is trying hard, and he needs to do something to pay the piper.

He's just a player on the stage of life, as we all are

hey nice shiva pic

I dont take anything by Icke seriously, some will call me too closed minded.. but i think he's just too 'out there' to make sense of.

david icke has lost the plot

i shouldn't really have wrote that but i feel that as much as i would like to believe in his theories there lacks one thing to the whole reptilian bloodline shapeshifting thing

credible evidence

you can't really claim such things without it, but then again if he had a videotape of George W Bush shapeshifting into a reptilian being,
would anyone believe it?

people only believe what they want to believe regardless of whether its the truth or not.

I like David Icke. People must realize that he is well researched, and though ohers may not agree with his conclusions, very few challange his data.