Bail refused for Burning Australian Flag !!

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posted on Dec, 23 2005 @ 05:59 AM
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Two Australia hater's refused bail for burning the Flag.

This is a clear message to the Rascists, Islamofascists and Australian haters, if you live here we wont take your crap!

Take note France !



"A man and a youth are in custody after facing court on charges of burning an Australian flag during Sydney's racial unrest.
Police said the teenager climbed a pole and stole a flag from the Brighton-le-Sands RSL club on December 11.

They allege the flag was sprayed with accelerant and set alight.

The youth and his co-accused, a 24-year-old Penshurst man, were each charged on Thursday with one count of entering a building with the intent of committing an indictable offence and one of malicious damage by fire"
news.ninemsn.com.au...



God Bless Australia




posted on Dec, 23 2005 @ 06:03 AM
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He should be charged with theft and nothing else. If he owned the flag himself and burned it I see nothing wrong with that as he has the right to his own freedom of expression. As long as he put the fire out I see nothing wrong with what he did.


[edit on 12-23-2005 by CPYKOmega]



posted on Dec, 23 2005 @ 06:03 AM
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uhhh...I think you are misinterpreting this action. These two guys stole somebody else's flag and burned it.

I've never been a member of any "flag-burning group" but I think it's mostly likely considered bad form to not bring your own flag to the burning.

In short, they are not being held without bail for burning the Australian flag they are being held without bail for stealing and vandalizing - and it just happened to be a flag.



posted on Dec, 23 2005 @ 06:07 AM
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I agree with you Valhall, but the title of this thread is misleading as it clearly states "Bail refused for Burning Australian Flag".



posted on Dec, 23 2005 @ 06:10 AM
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Originally posted by CPYKOmega
He should be charged with theft and nothing else. If he owned the flag himself and burned it I see nothing wrong with that as he has the right to his own freedom of expression. As long as he put the fire out I see nothing wrong with what he did.


[edit on 12-23-2005 by CPYKOmega]



You Canadian's might find it Acceptable for people to burn your flag during race riots, we don't.

Yes i guess he owned the Flag, right after he stole it as the quote says.


As for the France comment im referring to the French Authority's being a bunch of Pussy cats, if you let people get away with this behaviour theyll come back again and again and again, and it will get alot worse.



posted on Dec, 23 2005 @ 06:13 AM
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Originally posted by CPYKOmega
I agree with you Valhall, but the title of this thread is misleading as it clearly states "Bail refused for Burning Australian Flag".


You people did'nt even go read the Article heres the original title from the news room " Two refused bail over flag burning ".

If they burnt a teddy bear they would of got bail i know it, so yeah whatever next time your down this way try it out.



posted on Dec, 23 2005 @ 06:14 AM
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Originally posted by NumberCruncher

You Canadian's might find it Acceptable for people to burn your flag during race riots, we don't.



Here in Canada we don't usually have race riots lol. We only usually have anti-war rallys, where we usually burn American flags.



posted on Dec, 23 2005 @ 06:14 AM
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By burning the flag, whether it was his own or someone else's, he was making a clear gesture of hatred to Australia. If it was his own flag and he really wanted to burn it, he could have done so in private, but no, he wanted to send a message.

I for one am with you Australia, and I wish my own country wasn't run by wimps.

Advance Australia fair!



posted on Dec, 23 2005 @ 06:15 AM
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Originally posted by NumberCruncher


You people did'nt even go read the Article heres the original title from the news room " Two refused bail over flag burning ".

If they burnt a teddy bear they would of got bail i know it, so yeah whatever next time your down this way try it out.


No, we read it, and even went one further by understanding it. Which we're trying help you do now. If they had stolen a teddy bear and then burned it the article would read "Two refused bail over bear burning".



posted on Dec, 23 2005 @ 06:16 AM
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Originally posted by CPYKOmega

Originally posted by NumberCruncher

You Canadian's might find it Acceptable for people to burn your flag during race riots, we don't.



Here in Canada we don't usually have race riots lol. We only usually have anti-war rallys, where we usually burn American flags.


Yes, but do you have the common decency to buy your own? Or do you steal them from the local consulate? lol



posted on Dec, 23 2005 @ 06:18 AM
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Originally posted by NumberCruncher

You people did'nt even go read the Article heres the original title from the news room " Two refused bail over flag burning ".

If they burnt a teddy bear they would of got bail i know it, so yeah whatever next time your down this way try it out.


Did you read my original reply correctly? I stated he should be charged with theft as he did steal the flag, and not for burning it. But I don't know Australian law I am just voicing my own opinion!



posted on Dec, 23 2005 @ 06:20 AM
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Originally posted by Valhall

Yes, but do you have the common decency to buy your own? Or do you steal them from the local consulate? lol


We usually buy our own.



posted on Dec, 23 2005 @ 06:21 AM
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SRUKO (LOL)

They are being held for the following two charges:


The youth and his co-accused, a 24-year-old Penshurst man, were each charged on Thursday with one count of entering a building with the intent of committing an indictable offence and one of malicious damage by fire.



"malicious damage by fire" is basically the equivalent of arson or destruction of property by arson.

They burned some one else's property.



posted on Dec, 23 2005 @ 06:25 AM
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Originally posted by Valhall

Originally posted by NumberCruncher


You people did'nt even go read the Article heres the original title from the news room " Two refused bail over flag burning ".

If they burnt a teddy bear they would of got bail i know it, so yeah whatever next time your down this way try it out.


No, we read it, and even went one further by understanding it. Which we're trying help you do now. If they had stolen a teddy bear and then burned it the article would read "Two refused bail over bear burning".




No Sir it is you who Misunderstands, they WOULD of got bail if they only burnt Teddy Bears.

But you see here in Australia we no longer tolerate Rascism, especially so in NSW - and that's rascism both ways there been hundreds of arrest's regarding the race riots of people on both sides.

If there not Citizen's i hope they get deported to


Welcome to the new revised version of Multicultural Australia, if you dont like it stay home!

Aussie Aussie Aussie oi oi oi !!!



posted on Dec, 23 2005 @ 06:25 AM
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Originally posted by Valhall
SRUKO (LOL)

They are being held for the following two charges:


The youth and his co-accused, a 24-year-old Penshurst man, were each charged on Thursday with one count of entering a building with the intent of committing an indictable offence and one of malicious damage by fire.



"malicious damage by fire" is basically the equivalent of arson or destruction of property by arson.

They burned some one else's property.


lol I'm suprised you still remember that SRUKO thing.
So basically they were charged with the destruction of someone elses property. The flag burning title is just there for the drama effect. I thought the media never endorsed drama?



posted on Dec, 23 2005 @ 06:27 AM
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Originally posted by NumberCruncher


But you see here in Australia we no longer tolerate Rascism, especially so in NSW - and that's rascism both ways there been hundreds of arrest's regarding the race riots of people on both sides.



And can you please corroborate to how burning a flag resembles racism?



posted on Dec, 23 2005 @ 06:30 AM
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Originally posted by CPYKOmega

Here in Canada we don't usually have race riots lol.


Than what do you call this? Everyone has a few bad apples.

Concordia is the hottest school in Canada in terms of the Palestinian presence, activism and intimidation.

There was yelling and chanting, drumming and fighting going on outside the doors, with hundreds of our people stuck behind the gate being abused by hundreds of violent demonstrators.

I thought we were going to get killed, I swear. It was the scariest feeling, because I knew that these people wanted to hurt me and anyone who supports Israel or is Jewish. Today Montreal Jews were made to feel afraid for our lives, and today Jewish students were threatened in our own home.


www.aish.com...

[edit on 23-12-2005 by Trent]



posted on Dec, 23 2005 @ 06:33 AM
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Trent,

I think the operative phrase in CPYKO's post was "don't usually". I don't believe they "usually" had them in Australia until recently either.

[edit on 12-23-2005 by Valhall]



posted on Dec, 23 2005 @ 06:38 AM
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Originally posted by CPYKOmega

Originally posted by NumberCruncher


But you see here in Australia we no longer tolerate Rascism, especially so in NSW - and that's rascism both ways there been hundreds of arrest's regarding the race riots of people on both sides.



And can you please corroborate to how burning a flag resembles racism?




Ill entertain that idea, lets call it Nationlism then shall we, So being Anti Australian if you like, which in turn easily turns to Racism.

But feel free to split hairs, or you may prefer to call it political correctness.

Allow me to propose a toast....

Heres to you , and heres to me
Best of Friends we'll always be
But if by chance we Dissagree
Well F you all
And here's to me.






posted on Dec, 23 2005 @ 06:42 AM
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Originally posted by Valhall
Trent,

I think the operative phrase in CPYKO's post was "don't usually". I don't believe they "usually" had them in Australia until recently either.

[edit on 12-23-2005 by Valhall]


I thought he was implying that Canada unlike Australia didn't have them. If that wasn't what he was implying than that's fair enough. I was just pointing out that every country has it's bad apples as the Cronulla and Concordia riots prove. My intention was to nip in the bud any my country is better than your country rhetoric before it even got started.

[edit on 23-12-2005 by Trent]






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