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Student ID Card from Flight 77 found at Pentagon!

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posted on Dec, 22 2005 @ 05:27 PM
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Another "miraculous" find at the Pentagon:


"Sept. 13, 2001. A “Kingdom of Saudi Arabia Student Identity Card” was found in the rubble at the Pentagon with Moqed’s name on it. Forensic examination indicated that it may have been fraudulent. United States Secret Service Forensic Services report for the FBI PENTTBOM investigation regarding the physical examination of forensic science research request, Oct. 10, 2001." - 9/11 Commission (pg 44)



So let me get this straight, a thin plastic ID card of one of the alleged Flight 77 hijacker's was able to resist being melted after it was supposedly on a plane that flew 530 mph into a fortified building and erupting into a huge fiery inferno explosion
, disintegrating into a million pieces, and yet it was in good enough shape to still be able to read the name of the hijacker on it?


All I have to say is:


I hope even the most ardent official 9/11 story supporters agree that this "miraculous" find of hijacker's flimsy plastic ID card at the Pentagon is totally absurd.

Logically conclusions about this:

1) It was planted.

2) It was just said to have been found there.

3) It was a Pentanium Student ID card!


Just one more of a long list of evidence that 9/11 was an inside job.




[edit on 22-12-2005 by Killtown]

[edit on 22-12-2005 by Killtown]




posted on Dec, 23 2005 @ 05:41 PM
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Obviously this "miracle" Student ID Card find has stumped even the most ardent 9/11 official story supporters, or there would of been a couple of replies by now from them trying to explain away this "miracle" find or put some sort of spin on it.

Who knew that a claim that a small ID card from an alleged hijacker on the "plane" was found at the Pentagon would be the one smoking gun that brings down the 9/11 official story LIE?!



posted on Dec, 23 2005 @ 05:45 PM
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What you forget is they don't tell you about all the other stuff they find do they? It's not like it was the only thing left like in some cartoon, it's just the only thing worth them mentioning that is relevant. A lot of stuff does survive plane crashes.

In some of these images you can make out loads of crap from the plane, in fact in one of the pro-demolition videos going around there is somevideo footage for a few seconds which shows loads of stuff lying on the ground.

www.geoffmetcalf.com...

www.geoffmetcalf.com...













[edit on 23-12-2005 by AgentSmith]



posted on Dec, 23 2005 @ 05:55 PM
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Originally posted by AgentSmith
What you forget is they don't tell you about all the other stuff they find do they? It's not like it was the only thing left like in some cartoon, it's just the only thing worth them mentioning that is relevant. A lot of stuff does survive plane crashes.



So it's all just "happenstance," right? The ONLY report of a plastic item surviving the "plane crash" just happens to be something that frames an alleged hijacker. Are you official story believers really this gullable?



posted on Dec, 23 2005 @ 06:06 PM
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Uh... no.. Why would they report anything else? No-one public cares about anything else and any family/etc will be notified privately rather than splash it all over the papers and TV. Joe Public is only interested in hearing about what they find to catch the people behind the crime, and frankly pratting on about Joe Blogs driving wallet being found on the TV is unnecessary, insensitive and of no interest.
You guys talk like it is the only thing found, what do you imagine in your head? A big burnt crater and this lonely card sticking up in the middle? *nudge*


Only thing plastic, what did you expect to see on the news every day? Some plastic cutlery was recovered from the crash? Plastic trays?Someone's watch? Bit seedy being interested in that if you ask me.

[edit on 23-12-2005 by AgentSmith]



posted on Dec, 24 2005 @ 01:20 AM
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Personal stuff from a non-terrorist passenger, recovered from the Pentagon:


Ruth's 45-year-old daughter Leslie Whittington, her husband, Charles Falkenberg, and their two daughters, Zoe, 8, and Dana, 3, were passengers on the plane. The family, who lived in Washington, was heading to Australia, where Whittington, a Georgetown University professor, would work as a guest lecturer at the Australian National University in Canberra.

Those four marked the largest family group killed in the terrorist attacks.

"The fact it was so violent is hard to deal with," Ruth Koch said, noting she'd thought about how the couple must have felt in those last moments, knowing their two little girls would die.

During an interview earlier this week, Koch delicately handled eerie mementos of the crash found during cleanup: Whittington's battered driver's license. One granddaughters' luggage tag.
onlineathens.com...


Unfortunately you have to register if you want to read the whole thing, but it's free.



posted on Dec, 24 2005 @ 01:32 AM
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Originally posted by AgentSmith

You guys talk like it is the only thing found, what do you imagine in your head? A big burnt crater and this lonely card sticking up in the middle? *nudge*




"You guys" officially said the plane entered in a 'closer to liquid state'.
"You guys" officially said the plane melted from the heat which should make identification of bodies impossible (yet they still managed to find DNA that survived what a plane couldn't).

Showing parts of metal which lay on the lawn that didn't enter the building is pointless at debating the topic at hand - that a plastic ID was found in the rubble.

This is 'evidence' in an investigation call PENTTBOM (Pentagon/Twin Towers Bombing Investigation - FBI; operation code name) and this 'evidence' is provided by the Secret Service Forensics Team to the group of FBI piecing together the PENTTBOM. The same FBI that were ordered to stand down from investigating the hijackers before 9/11.

This Secret Service team are probably the same group which placed a perfect bullet on JFKs gurney and later said it must of fallen out of his head, proof of a magic bullet!

Majed Moqed is one of the people that has the least information about him available, these little 'discoveries' are what's needed in order to make a case against someone that can't be proven otherwise.

By his description, he sounds just like another fundamentalist Islamofacist
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Moqed also was seen in two stores in Maryland's Washington suburbs looking over adult videos and books, although employees say he made no purchases.
www.msnbc.com...



An "undated" ATM surveillance photo shows suspected hijackers Hani Hanjour, left, and Majed Moqed.

Yeah because you'd never forget two wierd looking guys like this coming into your store, especially if they were only browsing and didn't actually ingage you with a purchase


Must be a really strange shop full of freaks that buy a lot of porno if you stand out when you look normal and don't buy anything.





[edit on 24-12-2005 by TheShroudOfMemphis]



posted on Dec, 24 2005 @ 08:58 PM
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So lets get this straight. Corporate Mass Media told us much of the plane vapourized because of the fuel.

yet an unmelted flimsy piece of plastic manages to survive. I'm not even aware of any passenger remains surviving the crash because of this vapourization hocus pocus yet alone ATM and student cards.

The Atta Passport issue is also very suspicious. Miraculously Atta's Passport had the praise of Allah because the FBI "found" it hours after the attack and in perfect condition.

I'm just loving this. All the Bush Buddies here know they are officially in denial.

9/11 undeniable inside job. This piece of big news isn't even the tip of the iceberg when it comes to all the 9/11 "coincidences"

P.S. Critical Thinkers do not believe in Coincidences and neither do police investigators. It is standard policy for an investigator to follow up "coincidences" and more often then not these follow ups produce results.



posted on Dec, 25 2005 @ 02:36 AM
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Actually if you look around there is a full autopsy list of identified passenger remains from Flight 77.



posted on Dec, 25 2005 @ 08:13 AM
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I wouldn't be so sure of that. We actually know surprisingly little about 9/11.

Now if there really was indeed a 757 that Hit the pentagon then we would have seen it from multiple angles.

Even the Pentagon cameras should have caught the attack from at least a dozen angles because of all the cameras mounted on the roof. But no. Nothing. All that the Pentagon released was five frames. The first frame shows a plane much smaller then a 757. And it had a white jet exaust coming from it. 757's are much bigger and don't have exaust trails. the Only trails follow a short distance then disappear when they are thousands of feet in the air. Condensentation trails.

And the explosion in those five frames was pretty dodgy. The explosion casts no shadow even though it should have.

The fact that the FBI came in and covered up, took the video tape evidence and hid it indicated that no 757 hit the pentagon. clearly a much smaller plane was used. maybe a lear jet. But thats only at the most.

I hate to break it to you but 9/11 was an inside job. There is no denying it anymore.

[edit on 25-12-2005 by Huabamambo]



posted on Dec, 25 2005 @ 10:28 AM
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You realise that the explosion was a source of light in itself, right?

EDIT:

For some reason wrote shadow where explosion is! Duh too much christmas drink *HIC*

[edit on 25-12-2005 by AgentSmith]



posted on Dec, 25 2005 @ 10:45 AM
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Originally posted by Huabamambo
yet an unmelted flimsy piece of plastic manages to survive. I'm not even aware of any passenger remains surviving the crash because of this vapourization hocus pocus yet alone ATM and student cards.


Well Ash posted proof that proves you wrong in your assumption that nothing else was found from other passengers.



During an interview earlier this week, Koch delicately handled eerie mementos of the crash found during cleanup: Whittington's battered driver's license. One granddaughters' luggage tag.
onlineathens.com...



You can deny it all you want, but that will not change the fact there is other evidence.



posted on Dec, 26 2005 @ 05:06 PM
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Okay. So how come passengers remains didn't vapourize like the rest of the plane?

Look at the Pictures taken from the recovery operation inside the Pentagon.

No major 757 wing structures found. no tail section which should have been at least half way out the building.

No luggage and no airline Seats scattered throught the wreckage.

Seems kind of suspicious that most of a plane, luggage and seats can vapourize into thin air after the collision yet they still found remains and just small scattered bits and pieces.

If you think that 9/11 wasn't an inside job your being taken for a ride.

[edit on 26-12-2005 by Huabamambo]



posted on Dec, 26 2005 @ 05:10 PM
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Its the holidays and good miracles are always welcome.


The whole place blows up, but the card is saved.

Reminds me of the "maps" the terrorists left in their cars at the airports.


To make this story sound genuine, they should also list all the OTHER items they must have found. Its stupid to zero in on an ID.


[edit on 26-12-2005 by dgtempe]



posted on Dec, 26 2005 @ 05:14 PM
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Well let’s see…
As an aircraft disintegrates some parts of it, and things in it, are going to be ejected and not subjected to the fire and explosion. Same way things are ejected from a car in a crash.



posted on Dec, 26 2005 @ 05:22 PM
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My point being that why just single out a fraudulent ID card that could have only belonged to a terrorist?

Why not make a list and INCLUDE the ID? It would be lots more swalloable, beleivable, get the point?

I mean if it said items found:
School ring
pocketbook
glasses
ID card- possibly fraudulent..... It wouldnt sound like they were just telling us again "remember the terrorists? we told you so"



posted on Dec, 26 2005 @ 05:34 PM
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The document appears to be all about the identification documentation, visas, licenses and the like that these guys applied for. They mention that this particular one was found at the crash site. The document does not seem to go into any of their other personal items that were found, I would suspect that these things would be off topic to the direction of the paper.

Though I must admit I only quickly skimmed some of it.




Identification Documents of the 9/11 Hijackers
Mohamed Atta
FL DL, 05/02/01

Marwan al Shehhi
FL DL, 04/12/01
FL DL duplicate, 6/19/01

Khalid al Mihdhar
CA DL, 04/05/00
USA ID card, 07/10/01
VA ID card, 08/01/01

Nawaf al Hazmi
CA DL, 04/05/00
FL DL, 06/25/01
USA ID card, 07/10/01
VA ID card, 08/02/01.....





[edit on 12/26/2005 by defcon5]



posted on Dec, 26 2005 @ 09:06 PM
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And what about the pilot who supposedly flew the 757 into the pentagon?

He was trained at a flight school in florida and the instructor said that he failed flight school and that he couldn't even fly a cessna.

Despite what people think airliners are not very easy to fly. It's not like you jump into the pilot seat and drive it like a car.

Especially the 757. It has very complex flight control systems. And the two pilots of the 757 were huge husky men compared to the skinny Muslims.

The greatest feat of all is challenging both ex-military airline pilots. Even when faced against box cutters all members of the military are skilled at self defence even if the opponent has a knife.

9/11 was an inside job. If we can't convince you then maybe having a barcode on your hand and a micro chip will convince you.

As for me. I have achieved astral projection only once but I know what is in store for those who realize the truth. Pat yourselves on the back. The adventure of a lifetime awaits you.

For those who are decieved you have no idea the kind of suffering your going to be put through. You WILL believe one way or the other, sooner or later..

Although I advise you to believe now and make it easy for yourselves.

Having a little faith in a god/intelligent designer also helps.



posted on Dec, 26 2005 @ 11:09 PM
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Well for starters, I am very Christian. I am very well versed in eschatology and I very much know what to expect in the end times without having to astrally project anything. I do not fully trust the current administration, and I think that the mark my not involve anything more then a simple ID card with Biometric Data stored in it, so its even easier to accidentally get then this chip you speak of.
All that and I still think that a 757 hit the Pentagon…
So, what does any of that have to do with this thread anyway?


As far as flying the 757, a commercial aircraft mechanic has told me that it is one of the easiest of all commercial aircraft to fly; it pretty well can fly itself. As to overpowering the cockpit crew, you have no idea what happened, they could have been using defenseless passengers to get them to comply, they could have threatened other things as well, we will never know for sure.



posted on Dec, 27 2005 @ 12:18 AM
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lol. typical mechanic statement. Let the grease monkey mind his job.

I've talked with actual pilots of a 757 and other aircract and they have allassured me that it is not as easy as it looks. No aircraft can "pretty well fly itself"

It's not like a car that where you jump in and put it in gear. It is a very complex piece of machinery. You have to be constantly monitoring every flight system, every flight control.

I don't doubt that some people might find it a little easier then others. However the terrorists on that plane were not even very good pilots. Even the flight school instructor in Florida said that they couldn't handle a Cessna aircraft.

You have to be monitoring every system constantly. Pitch, Roll, Yaw, flight speed, altitude, the direction your going.etc etc etc.

If you let the bird get away from you even for a second it can have dire consquences. Too much pitch here, too much roll here and you can be found in a very difficult situaton which is hard to reverse.

If you cannot even handle a Cessna aircraft then you most certainly cannot handle a 757 and perform the manuevers that that aircraft performed on that day. Look at the radar reports. These terrorists were performing manuevers that some military planes cannot even perform.

I mean come on. Now I can believe some things with a stretch of the imagination but for someone who could not even fly a single engine aircraft to just jump behind the stick of a much larger and much more complex piece of machinery and perform maunevers with such precision that they did is just too much of a stretch.

The incidents of 9/11 and the "official" word is nothing more then a fairy tale.

And the fact that 9/11 was the only day in Norad's history where they failed their duty to protect the country. Military planes should have been on those air liners quicker then past incidents just with all the military air drills that were going on.

But no. Norad stood down and an otherwise preventable incident was allowed to happen.

www.prisonplanet.com...












[edit on 27-12-2005 by Huabamambo]

[edit on 27-12-2005 by Huabamambo]



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