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reply posted on 22-12-2005 @ 12:57 PM by Sight2reality
Originally posted by Odium
Sight2reality, a moderate Party should hold views from both the Left and Right Wings of Politics, that is the basic idea and not just More Guns, More Gun Laws and so on and so fourth.

You bake the cake with the best recipe. not too much of one thing and not too little. That's the whole idea but the problem is, nobody can decide which aspect should be moderate.

Should they be Anti-Gun and Anti-Abortion? Which is aspects of both.
Pro-Gun and Pro-Abortion? And the problem gets larger and larger. In reality, the best moderates are the Swiss Ones. Whose Government allows moral laws to be passed by the people, not by the Government and allows the Government to take care of technical laws.


I know what the intent of a moderate party would be. Just as I know what the intent of a communist society would be. Both share the same outlook however, and that is that they are unobtainable.

People disagree on things. They want there way. Liberal, and conservative (though conservatives for some reason don't fight as hard) work to obtain what they want. The parties have goals, but even in the party circle, people may disagree on them in specifics. We all are aware of this. Individuality dictates it.

Now, if we take that reality, and introduce a "moderate party", we only cause problems. I would argue that many people would switch to this party. Many people who are at heart conservative or liberal. The types of candidates that would be generated would be ones who could have NO SOLID GROUND. NO SOLID IDEAS. Much like John Kerry, they would have to be flip flopping like a fish pulled out of the water. They wouldn't have a choice, because there party would consist of liberals and conservatives who disagree with the main party on small issues. Everything would be a concession. Even our constitution.

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reply posted on 8-7-2006 @ 02:23 PM by Drake_Danielson
A Moderate Party currently exists! Check out The Moderate Party

They have a great platform, besides other things, on their site that explains what they stand for and it goes along with what moderate politics should be.

As well, if anyone else is in the dark about what moderate/centrist politics can do, visit my blog, The Centrist Solution for some insight.


reply posted on 12-7-2006 @ 03:35 PM by Nygdan
Clearly, the republican party has the mantle of the moderate party right not, or at least that of the centrist party. The GOP has won the past two presidential elections and control of congress because it is able to appeal to the center on the critical issues, and also able to mobilize its base and fringe. THe democratic party has lost the center, and lost its own fringe, and only has its base to support it.

If we're talking about creating a new party, what would be the point? A moderate party that only has the support of the center will simply have to appeal to either of the sides in order to win any elections or enact any meaningful policies.

Better, at this point, I think, to support good policy, rather than worry about creating a centrist party.

As an aside, I suppose its possible that centrist and moderate aren't synonyms, and that Moderate politics doesn't, infact, appeal to the political Center too, in which case a truly Moderate Party would be really doomed.

a moderate Party should hold views from both the Left and Right Wings of Politics,

Thats not true, that'd be a comprise party or some such. A Moderate Party would have its own ideas, and those ideas would have nothing to do with the extreme left or extreme right.

But its all theoretical anyway. Better to look at a specific party.
With that, lets look at the Moderate Party
The Moderate Party supports the creation of civil unions to provide economic and familial benefits to mutually consenting adult couples.

The Moderate Party does not support the termination of pregnancy in the third trimester except under circumstances in which the life of the mother is otherwise in danger.

The Moderate Party supports the right of citizens to keep and bear arms.

The Moderate Party supports the separation of church and state as the guiding principle that truly guarantees and enables religious liberty for all Americans

The Moderate Party opposes sprawl development by encouraging smart planning, livable neighborhoods, and historic preservation.

The Moderate Party supports a strong national defense. The safety and security of the United States is of utmost importance, including securing our borders.

The Moderate Party believes that the United States must return to its primary role as international peacekeeper[...]resorting to military recourse only in coalition with other nations in an action sanctioned by an international governing body

The Moderate Party supports a simplified tax code, including the Fair Tax or Flat Tax.

The Moderate Party supports lowering federal spending and paying down the national debt without compromise to individuals, families, and seniors of American citizenship currently in need of Federal assistance


The tax-spending policy is untenable. The foreign policy is outrageous and in conflict with the defense policy, and the marriage and abortion policy is conservative (ie, supports the status quo, which currently itself is a comprise).

I don't know if I'd call those policies Moderate, Compromise, Centrist, or whatever, but they're not particularly great.


reply posted on 12-7-2006 @ 05:05 PM by df1
What we really need is the "Honesty Party". It makes little difference to me whether the people are getting screwed by a party calling themselves republicans, democrats or moderates.

Currently I am watching the
unity08 organization which is seeking to elect a bipartisan ticket in 2008. The organization is composed of democrats and republicans seeking a middle ground. At this time I remain unconvinced that this isnt just an attempt by the demopublican leadership to neutralize any challenge from a 3rd party, but I am trying to keep an open mind.

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