Originally posted by TerraX
I must say that excentric rituals within O.T.O. only will fuel suspicions of foul play on its members. I'm not saying those members are quilty of
committing a crime, just that given human nature people will start to think the possibility is there. That's what you get when you do a lot of stuff
behind closed doors.
Honestly that is because most people are inherently lazy and are willing to have other people do their research for them. Most of the rituals that a
member of the O.T.O. does has been published (By the O.T.O.) and are available at your local Borders or Barnes & Nobles bookstores. The only rituals
not published by the O.T.O. are the initiation rituals, and some documents that relate to sex magick. But these have also been published. (The
official line of these rituals is they are not accurate, but I'd be willing to bet they are close enough to give someone a good idea on what may go
Take a good look at what the Crowley is evil people present as evidence. 80% of it comes from chapter 12 of Magick in Theory and Practice (Of the
Bloody Sacrifice and Matters Cognate) where they seemingly forget to read the parts that say don't take this literally. and the rest comes from
stories from tabloid papers that are pretty close to our modern Enquirer or Weekly World News.
I have said before there is plenty withing the O.T.O., A.'.A.'., and Thelema in general for the general population to dislike, everything from the
ingestion of sexual fluids, to the parts of Liber vel Jugorum and the Mass of the Phoenix that use what is basically self-mutilation*, The Book of the
Law has parts that are very offensive to members of other faiths. But it still ends up being the same ol' same ol' goofy crap.
* Both are officially A.'.A.'. rituals but many Thelemites use them. And most don't do it to the extreme that is mentioned in the rituals. In fact
a version of Liber vel Jugorum was featured in TV ads as a way to quit smoking (Snapping a rubber band on your wrist when you want a cigarette.)
Originally posted by Masonic Light
Nevertheless, the paranoid and the conspiracy theorists often take every word Crowley ever wrote literally, when in fact, very little of Crowley can
be so taken. He was a master of symbolism and allegory, and was even more of a master of making fools out of those who read his works without the
Two things to remember when your reading Crowley
1) He was a poet.
2) He was an occultist
Like a poet Crowley would use a word just because is sounded better to him, but as an occultist he had a larger vocabulary than normal.
Here is a lame example of my own.
A poet might describe a woman's eyes as being like sapphires. And we all know that means she has blue eyes.
Now Crowley might say something like her eyes were of Binah, as Qabalistically Binah relates to sapphires, but it is also far more descriptive, Binah
also relates to Understanding, and Women, The Egyptian goddess Isis, The 8=3 Grade of the A.'.A.'., etc...
Or maybe he would say sapphires, but he meant understanding as they are both related to Binah. but he found the word sapphires more poetic.
Originally posted by Masonic Light
In reality, Crowley wasn't even a tenth as wild and depraved as his detractors pretend he was...
I'd have to disagree with that. He was wild and depraved for his time
(the early 1900's). But nowdays subjects like masturbation, sex outside
marrage, and bi-sexuality are not that titillating.